Low pay, mismatched expectations: Why Singapore students are turning away from engineering

[bombshell]

Sinkies dunwan take the job then come EDMW/Reddit complain FTs take their job.

 

[tatsit]

as mechanical eng grad, i find it hard to survive, long working hours, low wage. my advice to future gen, avoid it at all costs

 

[Travis_Touchdown]

“For me, straight up, the number one, and actually the only thing that would come to mind is just starting pay,” he said.

This ish the main reason rahz... Chiu make stinkieland the most ex country in the world... This ish huatz chiu get... @Shion @fatscaryuncle

Neber mind... They ish can juz impork huatz...

 

[thyler_koh]

The croonies are so money minded.
Every policies is so money faced.
And they still expect the graduates to pursue a low paying career for passion ?
Who are they kidding ?

The useless govt will crested another useless task force to continue their useless monitoring

 

[Medicated Oil]

The useless govt will crested another useless task force to continue their useless monitoring

Dun need any task force.
Just import Uptron College Graduates since the country will COLLAPSE without foreign work force.
As for local, they dun really give a damn any more.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Engineering is well and alive in the West (Europe, USA), in Korea and in Japan, even in China. I'll leave it to u to guess why it sucks here.

 

[xcodes]

why did they suddenly bring up engineering?

Electronics, Electrical and Mechanical Engineering were super hot courses to enroll in the 80's in our two only local polytechnics (SP & NP), in STI, JSTI and GSTI, and also VITB (now ITE) at that time ... but then it slowly died down a slow death when manufacturing plants and companies began to relocate and move their plants out of sinkieland, mostly to China, vetnam, thailand and malaysia which are cheaper to operate ... now after about 40 years later, it goes one big round back to engineering again?

personally, I don't see any future as a job with engineering if the cost of manufacturing is too high, mainly due to high rental and other hight cost of doing business here ... these companies will continue to just move out of sinkieland ...

 

[ninjaghost]

last time ownself chibaboom ownself, must be see the good money there and realized they cant fully trust on certain source (don be sensitive, i mean chyna lah) suddenly wayang wayang come and concern why no one study engineering XD

 

[batuchka]

lol got generations of undergrads tio played out by whitey last time say engin then bio-science sure huat so many ended up not working in those fields

 

[RedEyesFan]

Hiring frauds is cheaper.

 

[fly1111]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/engineering-students-shortage-careers-5387876

Falling enrolment in traditional engineering courses has raised concerns among engineering leaders, who warn that the talent drain could hurt Singapore’s ability to develop and maintain infrastructure.

SINGAPORE: As a child, Mark made model planes using cardboard rolls from kitchen paper. He read books about aircraft and dreamed of becoming a pilot. So when it came time to pick a degree, aerospace engineering was the obvious choice.

Now 24 and in his final year at Nanyang Technological University (NTU), Mark – who asked to remain anonymous – is looking for an exit.

“For me, straight up, the number one, and actually the only thing that would come to mind is just starting pay,” he said.

Mark is not alone in considering leaving traditional engineering for the prospect of a better-paying career path.

Industry experts told CNA that traditional engineering fields – which include aerospace, civil, mechanical, electrical and chemical engineering – have struggled to attract and retain talent.

This struggle has been especially noticeable over the past decade as industries such as finance and technology have become more popular.

“They actually took our best students to join them … So that has become quite a norm today,” said Mr Chuck Kho, president of the Association of Consulting Engineers Singapore (ACES).

He noted a pattern of early-career engineers crossing into other industries after a few years on the job.

This talent drain has raised concerns among engineering leaders, who warn that a lack of homegrown engineers could hurt Singapore’s ability to develop and maintain infrastructure.

“The consequences of not having enough engineers will be catastrophic for the future generation,” said Mr Chew Tai Chong, Asia-Pacific managing director at built environment consultancy Arup, who has over 40 years of engineering experience.

“Who is going to look after your ageing asset, who is going to actually help you to renew and improve in 50 years' time, if you don't have an engineer to do that?”

DECLINE IN INTEREST FROM STUDENTS​

Figures from the Ministry of Education show the decline in interest over two decades. In 2003, 42.9 per cent of university students were enrolled in engineering sciences. By 2023, this had dropped to 22.2 per cent.

Polytechnic enrolment followed a similar trend, falling from 43.3 per cent in 2003 to 27.9 per cent in 2023.

At Temasek Polytechnic, while interest in areas such as aerospace and biomedical engineering remains steady, courses like mechanical and electrical engineering have seen slower take-up, said Mr Chang Hark Loong, its School of Engineering’s deputy director of academic programmes and outreach.

At the same time, entry into such courses has become less competitive. In 2010, the 10th percentile of A-level students admitted to NTU’s aerospace engineering course had at least three As and one B.

The latest indicative grades show four Cs at the same percentile, although it should be noted that universities now take more holistic approaches in considering aptitude-based admissions.

Many engineering graduates also end up choosing a different career path.

Mr Chan Ewe Jin, president of the Institution of Engineers Singapore, said that factors such as long working hours and a lack of public appreciation for the complexity of engineering work deter young professionals.

On top of this, he said, remuneration often does not match the time and effort needed to progress in the profession.

“Unlike some other professions, an engineering career develops through mentoring, structured training and considerable hands-on experience, which naturally takes time to acquire,” he said.

For Mark, learning that his internship company paid below-average starting salaries to entry-level engineers was a turning point.

“The whole financial aspect of being an engineer in Singapore is anything but attractive,” he said.

Based on the latest graduate employment survey, fresh graduates in traditional engineering disciplines at NUS, NTU and SIT earned median gross monthly salaries of S$4,000 to S$5,500 (US$2,930 to US$4,030). The data takes into account graduates who have already left the industry.

Others are put off by a disconnect between what they learnt at school and the realities of the job.

John, a 24-year-old mechanical engineering graduate now working in consulting, said he lost interest just a year into his course.

“I was expecting it to be a lot more practical, a lot more hands-on, and I was also hoping to learn things that were more at the frontier of industry,” he said.

Much of the material that was taught, he added, seemed to be “recycled” from years ago and not applicable to the real world.

Kevin, an aerospace engineering student, is considering moving into finance.

“It's not that there's a lack of roles. It's just that the roles … are more to do with MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul),” he said.

EFFORTS TO IMPROVE PROSPECTS​

The authorities have recognised the need to attract and retain talent.

For the civil engineering sector, a task force for architectural and engineering consultants has made 11 recommendations, including internships with higher starting salaries and dedicated mentors.

It also suggested changes to procurement practices to help firms invest more in talent.

Industry experts and students welcomed the proposals and expressed hope that similar measures would be applied across engineering fields.

Fourth-year NTU student Rohan Govindharajalu said around 40 per cent of his mechanical engineering peers are undecided about entering the field after graduation.

“Imagine if the companies just offer S$200 or S$300 more, then the pay difference might just be very little … And if their passion for engineering is good enough, they might choose to go into engineering instead of going into a bank,” said Mr Govindharajalu, who is among those who hope to pursue engineering after graduation.

Mr Kho of ACES said implementation will take time. “Surely this cannot be done overnight, right? It will take a lot of continuous effort, sustained effort over a few years at least, to see the change.”

REBRANDING ENGINEERING​

More also needs to be done to change how students view engineering early on, said president of the Society of Women Engineers, Ms Ng Pei Fern.

While outreach programmes reveal student interest, many hesitate to pursue engineering courses because it’s “hard to score”, she said.

“We lose some talents even at that early stage, which I find is a pity,” she said.

She added that misconceptions persist about the nature of the work.

“A lot of people just somehow feel that engineering is for nerds, like you're sitting in front of the PC alone day after day, trying to do things alone,” she said. “It's not like that.”

Mr Kho said the built environment sector suffers from public perceptions that equate it with visible work like construction sites.

“But of course, engineering work is a lot more than that. So because of our quiet working behind the scenes, people don't really notice us,” he said, adding that ACES is stepping up efforts to rebrand the profession.

IES’ Mr Chan said that greater engagement by practitioners could help spark interest.

“When engineers explain the real-life impact and excitement of their work, it helps students see engineering beyond textbooks,” he said.

And while interest in traditional engineering courses may have waned, polytechnics have seen growing demand for hybrid disciplines such as AI and data engineering, robotics and mechatronics.

Dr Graham Ng, director of Nanyang Polytechnic’s School of Engineering, said students are increasingly drawn to hybrid engineering courses that integrate digital and interdisciplinary skills.

“This reflects a broader shift in student preferences and industry expectations, with course curriculum now infusing sustainability, digitalisation and emerging technologies,” he said.

CNA has also contacted other institutes of higher learning for comment.

THE NEED FOR TALENT RENEWAL​

To make up for the shortage of local engineers, Singapore continues to rely on foreign professionals.
According to MOM’s 2024 report on job vacancies, roles such as civil, industrial and production engineers were among the top 10 PMET vacancies.

Still, experts say that Singapore must rebuild a strong local base.

In the late 1900s, there was a big push to recruit engineers – “the best of the crop”, said Mr Kho. Now, with many of those engineers retiring, the need for talent renewal is urgent.

“Who is taking it over? Who wants to be in that position to create the next generation of new things?” said Arup’s Mr Chew.

There needs to be a broader mindset shift, he added.

“It’s not just about making money. It's about our contribution towards humanity and towards our future generation.”

Source: CNA/er(cy)

Who’s fault ar? Is it Sinkie fault again?

 

[xcodes]

lol got generations of undergrads tio played out by whitey last time say engin then bio-science sure huat so many ended up not working in those fields

now it's IT and AI right ... let's watch whether got play out or not ...

 

[Joe Maya]

If you’re an engineer and you vote men in white, you really need to reflect

They really want to kill oil & gas with the carbon tax.

Nvm as long as more females in tech it's okay to them.

 

[thyler_koh]

Dun need any task force.
Just import Uptron College Graduates since the country will COLLAPSE without foreign work force.
As for local, they dun really give a damn any more.

True , all they want is blind stats, they don’t give a hoot to sinkies . All the talks about we are behind you , supporting you , yeah , behind you to give you a kick down the cliff

 

[Medicated Oil]

True , all they want is blind stats, they don’t give a hoot to sinkies . All the talks about we are behind you , supporting you , yeah , behind you to give you a kick down the cliff

All the talks are empty and happens once in every 5 years.
They are making it more obvious now in rooting for the majority residents here.

 

[thyler_koh]

All the talks are empty and happens once in every 5 years.
They are making it more obvious now in rooting for the majority residents here.

Thrash party

 

[midnightinparis]

?? Article say the engineering fresh grads pay is 4-5.5k and they still hiam too low? How much pay these fresh grads want sia

 

[kreja]

They can't.
How to tell some group of croonies who measured your INTEGRITY from your salary NOT TO BE so money minded ?

Of course its about money. If not what? True love ah? Wu siao bo

 

[titusilvering]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/engineering-students-shortage-careers-5387876

Falling enrolment in traditional engineering courses has raised concerns among engineering leaders, who warn that the talent drain could hurt Singapore’s ability to develop and maintain infrastructure.

SINGAPORE: As a child, Mark made model planes using cardboard rolls from kitchen paper. He read books about aircraft and dreamed of becoming a pilot. So when it came time to pick a degree, aerospace engineering was the obvious choice.

Now 24 and in his final year at Nanyang Technological University (NTU), Mark – who asked to remain anonymous – is looking for an exit.

“For me, straight up, the number one, and actually the only thing that would come to mind is just starting pay,” he said.

Mark is not alone in considering leaving traditional engineering for the prospect of a better-paying career path.

Industry experts told CNA that traditional engineering fields – which include aerospace, civil, mechanical, electrical and chemical engineering – have struggled to attract and retain talent.

This struggle has been especially noticeable over the past decade as industries such as finance and technology have become more popular.

“They actually took our best students to join them … So that has become quite a norm today,” said Mr Chuck Kho, president of the Association of Consulting Engineers Singapore (ACES).

He noted a pattern of early-career engineers crossing into other industries after a few years on the job.

This talent drain has raised concerns among engineering leaders, who warn that a lack of homegrown engineers could hurt Singapore’s ability to develop and maintain infrastructure.

“The consequences of not having enough engineers will be catastrophic for the future generation,” said Mr Chew Tai Chong, Asia-Pacific managing director at built environment consultancy Arup, who has over 40 years of engineering experience.

“Who is going to look after your ageing asset, who is going to actually help you to renew and improve in 50 years' time, if you don't have an engineer to do that?”

DECLINE IN INTEREST FROM STUDENTS​

Figures from the Ministry of Education show the decline in interest over two decades. In 2003, 42.9 per cent of university students were enrolled in engineering sciences. By 2023, this had dropped to 22.2 per cent.

Polytechnic enrolment followed a similar trend, falling from 43.3 per cent in 2003 to 27.9 per cent in 2023.

At Temasek Polytechnic, while interest in areas such as aerospace and biomedical engineering remains steady, courses like mechanical and electrical engineering have seen slower take-up, said Mr Chang Hark Loong, its School of Engineering’s deputy director of academic programmes and outreach.

At the same time, entry into such courses has become less competitive. In 2010, the 10th percentile of A-level students admitted to NTU’s aerospace engineering course had at least three As and one B.

The latest indicative grades show four Cs at the same percentile, although it should be noted that universities now take more holistic approaches in considering aptitude-based admissions.

Many engineering graduates also end up choosing a different career path.

Mr Chan Ewe Jin, president of the Institution of Engineers Singapore, said that factors such as long working hours and a lack of public appreciation for the complexity of engineering work deter young professionals.

On top of this, he said, remuneration often does not match the time and effort needed to progress in the profession.

“Unlike some other professions, an engineering career develops through mentoring, structured training and considerable hands-on experience, which naturally takes time to acquire,” he said.

For Mark, learning that his internship company paid below-average starting salaries to entry-level engineers was a turning point.

“The whole financial aspect of being an engineer in Singapore is anything but attractive,” he said.

Based on the latest graduate employment survey, fresh graduates in traditional engineering disciplines at NUS, NTU and SIT earned median gross monthly salaries of S$4,000 to S$5,500 (US$2,930 to US$4,030). The data takes into account graduates who have already left the industry.

Others are put off by a disconnect between what they learnt at school and the realities of the job.

John, a 24-year-old mechanical engineering graduate now working in consulting, said he lost interest just a year into his course.

“I was expecting it to be a lot more practical, a lot more hands-on, and I was also hoping to learn things that were more at the frontier of industry,” he said.

Much of the material that was taught, he added, seemed to be “recycled” from years ago and not applicable to the real world.

Kevin, an aerospace engineering student, is considering moving into finance.

“It's not that there's a lack of roles. It's just that the roles … are more to do with MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul),” he said.

EFFORTS TO IMPROVE PROSPECTS​

The authorities have recognised the need to attract and retain talent.

For the civil engineering sector, a task force for architectural and engineering consultants has made 11 recommendations, including internships with higher starting salaries and dedicated mentors.

It also suggested changes to procurement practices to help firms invest more in talent.

Industry experts and students welcomed the proposals and expressed hope that similar measures would be applied across engineering fields.

Fourth-year NTU student Rohan Govindharajalu said around 40 per cent of his mechanical engineering peers are undecided about entering the field after graduation.

“Imagine if the companies just offer S$200 or S$300 more, then the pay difference might just be very little … And if their passion for engineering is good enough, they might choose to go into engineering instead of going into a bank,” said Mr Govindharajalu, who is among those who hope to pursue engineering after graduation.

Mr Kho of ACES said implementation will take time. “Surely this cannot be done overnight, right? It will take a lot of continuous effort, sustained effort over a few years at least, to see the change.”

REBRANDING ENGINEERING​

More also needs to be done to change how students view engineering early on, said president of the Society of Women Engineers, Ms Ng Pei Fern.

While outreach programmes reveal student interest, many hesitate to pursue engineering courses because it’s “hard to score”, she said.

“We lose some talents even at that early stage, which I find is a pity,” she said.

She added that misconceptions persist about the nature of the work.

“A lot of people just somehow feel that engineering is for nerds, like you're sitting in front of the PC alone day after day, trying to do things alone,” she said. “It's not like that.”

Mr Kho said the built environment sector suffers from public perceptions that equate it with visible work like construction sites.

“But of course, engineering work is a lot more than that. So because of our quiet working behind the scenes, people don't really notice us,” he said, adding that ACES is stepping up efforts to rebrand the profession.

IES’ Mr Chan said that greater engagement by practitioners could help spark interest.

“When engineers explain the real-life impact and excitement of their work, it helps students see engineering beyond textbooks,” he said.

And while interest in traditional engineering courses may have waned, polytechnics have seen growing demand for hybrid disciplines such as AI and data engineering, robotics and mechatronics.

Dr Graham Ng, director of Nanyang Polytechnic’s School of Engineering, said students are increasingly drawn to hybrid engineering courses that integrate digital and interdisciplinary skills.

“This reflects a broader shift in student preferences and industry expectations, with course curriculum now infusing sustainability, digitalisation and emerging technologies,” he said.

CNA has also contacted other institutes of higher learning for comment.

THE NEED FOR TALENT RENEWAL​

To make up for the shortage of local engineers, Singapore continues to rely on foreign professionals.
According to MOM’s 2024 report on job vacancies, roles such as civil, industrial and production engineers were among the top 10 PMET vacancies.

Still, experts say that Singapore must rebuild a strong local base.

In the late 1900s, there was a big push to recruit engineers – “the best of the crop”, said Mr Kho. Now, with many of those engineers retiring, the need for talent renewal is urgent.

“Who is taking it over? Who wants to be in that position to create the next generation of new things?” said Arup’s Mr Chew.

There needs to be a broader mindset shift, he added.

“It’s not just about making money. It's about our contribution towards humanity and towards our future generation.”

Source: CNA/er(cy)

Last time all the grades not good one all bobian then go study engineering mah

 

[samferguson]

Nothing wrong with asking for more money.