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Some people just have too much free time to come here to stir a hornet nest. i believe a lot of us use a variety of products. i use mac, iphone, samsung phone, windows laptop, etc.... those that stick to one type of products and use misinformation on others r really narrow-minded.
 

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Both. And CONSTRUCTIVE debate is welcome but when someone who has never used a mac before goes around spreading fake news based on YouTube videos that’s a totally different ball game.

Which is fake news as many ppl who have actually used macs have pointed out, they have 16 or even 8 GB machines with no issues. I myself have had video encoding in the background on a 16 GB Intel MBP while my browser is running YouTube and im working on a spreadsheet.

And a 16GB machines is way too overkill for anyone’s grandma’s computer unless some random granny decides to run Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro or Xcode while doing other stuff.

And there are newbies around and the last thing we want is for them to read fake news & go oh wow so 16 GB is only enough for ah ma so i need at least 24 GB so maybe Mac isn’t that suitable since M4 Pro mac mini w default 24 GB costs significantly more than base M4.
Why does this triggers you? I think you have an unhealthy obsession with defending Apple products a.k.a. fanboyism.

You could simply point out that particular youtube review was A PRO or POWER user's POV that is not typical of an AVERAGE CASUAL user.

That's eventually what I think leads to: the upsell to Mac Studio for power users.
 

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Apple fanboys love to be milked like cows. AAPL may be a better buy than M4 Mac.
I'm not an Apple sheep and will never be locked in by any ecosystem. So if you can't handle being pushed back a little, don't start a thread.

Why does this triggers you? I think you have an unhealthy obsession with defending Apple products a.k.a. fanboyism.

You could simply point out that particular youtube review was A PRO or POWER user's POV that is not typical of an AVERAGE CASUAL user.

That's eventually what I think leads to: the upsell to Mac Studio for power users.
Maybe let’s take a step back.

what’s your objective here? Like are you asking for people’s opinion or? Like what is the outcome you are trying to get to in your journey to explore using a Mac?
 

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Some people just have too much free time to come here to stir a hornet nest. i believe a lot of us use a variety of products. i use mac, iphone, samsung phone, windows laptop, etc.... those that stick to one type of products and use misinformation on others r really narrow-minded.
Can’t even be bothered to reply to the troll any more. Has shown his true colours. Fine if one hates apple for some reason but to be so free as to plot to come here & claim to be interested in switching to mac when clearly one is here to stir sh*t and bash apple and apple users, that a new kind of low.

Then again this is the same person free enough to search thru all your posts & pick out one where you talked about parents teaching kids manners & using it against you. So yeah once again, very obvious who is the one with real world problems here 🤣
 

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Maybe let’s take a step back.

what’s your objective here? Like are you asking for people’s opinion or? Like what is the outcome you are trying to get to in your journey to explore using a Mac?
Bro its so clear. He already said he doesn’t want to be locked into apple ecosystem & he clearly has issues with ppl he calls apple fan boys. 🙄
 

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Some people just have too much free time to come here to stir a hornet nest. i believe a lot of us use a variety of products. i use mac, iphone, samsung phone, windows laptop, etc.... those that stick to one type of products and use misinformation on others r really narrow-minded.
I believe the delivery timelines for M4 Mac Minis are pushed to Dec due to tremendous orders. I shall sit back and wait till someone is so triggered enough to post here how strong the M4 Mac Mini base model is at handling daily tasks.
 

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Can’t even be bothered to reply to the troll any more. Has shown his true colours. Fine if one hates apple for some reason but to be so free as to plot to come here & claim to be interested in switching to mac when clearly one is here to stir sh*t and bash apple and apple users, that a new kind of low.

Then again this is the same person free enough to search thru all your posts & pick out one where you talked about parents teaching kids manners & using it against you. So yeah once again, very obvious who is the one with real world problems here 🤣
not even reading his replies. he can quote all he wants. he got problems and i dun wanna engage with a troll.
 

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Maybe let’s take a step back.

what’s your objective here? Like are you asking for people’s opinion or? Like what is the outcome you are trying to get to in your journey to explore using a Mac?
To understand the problems with M4 Mac Minis. It's not a perfect product. I don't mind the debate so far. I actually can see how or where I underestimate M4 Macs since Windows OS is less optimised to the hardware (Microsoft makes more money from Office and Azure cloud thus spends more effort there).
 
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Bro its so clear. He already said he doesn’t want to be locked into apple ecosystem & he clearly has issues with ppl he calls apple fan boys. 🙄
Well, I use both Iphone and Android phones. I have two phones, dear.
 

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not even reading his replies. he can quote all he wants. he got problems and i dun wanna engage with a troll.
As the saying goes “dont feed the trolls”. They get a high off stirring sh*t & when ppl reply & bash them. Almost attention seeking, masochistic behaviour. When there is no oxygen there is no fire. When there is no attention there is no troll. 🤣

Seem delivery date is now 16-23 Dec for new order. Doubt there’s any chance of the original 4-11 Dec date being brought forward.
 

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As the saying goes “dont feed the trolls”. They get a high off stirring sh*t & when ppl reply & bash them. Almost attention seeking, masochistic behaviour. When there is no oxygen there is no fire. When there is no attention there is no troll. 🤣

Seem delivery date is now 16-23 Dec for new order. Doubt there’s any chance of the original 4-11 Dec date being brought forward.
will order when i get back from my holidays in jan. hopefully by then will have ex-stock.
 

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I believe the delivery timelines for M4 Mac Minis are pushed to Dec due to tremendous orders.
Seems like the case yea
I shall sit back and wait till someone is so triggered enough to post here how strong the M4 Mac Mini base model is at handling daily tasks.
Unless your daily tasks involve some intensive video editing, graphics design, heavy gaming or crazy data crunchy, you wouldn’t have an issue even getting a M1 Mac mini to do your surfing of the net, watching YouTube videos, etc.
To understand the problems with M4 Mac Minis. It's not a perfect product. I don't mind the debate so far. I actually can see how or where I underestimate M4 Macs since Windows OS is less optimised to the hardware (Microsoft makes more money from Office and Azure cloud thus spends more effort there).
I don’t think there’s any product out there that can be perfect.

there will always be a trade-off. But for the price, the value is there.

if you want to engage on specific points to discuss, happy to do so. But if you intend to have long posts, or keep having reviews and videos thrown in without tl;dr, nobody would have time to go through it to give a point by point response.
 

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many yt states that the m4 mac mini is apple's attempt to get more people onto the eco system. i believe the challenge will be windows vs macos GUI and how to get things done.
 

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many yt states that the m4 mac mini is apple's attempt to get more people onto the eco system. i believe the challenge will be windows vs macos GUI and how to get things done.

For simple uses cases (Web browsing, Media Streaming, home base learning, Office), I think it should be fine if the user is willing to spend a bit of time to learn.

On the other hand, my 12-year old daughter does not like my Mac Mini M1, even though she has no issues with Chromebook (for School work) and iPad. She just switched to use Windows 11 without issues as well.

Personally I am OS neutral, using Mac Mini M1, my laptop and desktop are both using dual boot (Windows 11 and Ubuntu Linux).
 

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For simple uses cases (Web browsing, Media Streaming, home base learning, Office), I think it should be fine if the user is willing to spend a bit of time to learn.

On the other hand, my 12-year old daughter does not like my Mac Mini M1, even though she has no issues with Chromebook (for School work) and iPad. She just switched to use Windows 11 without issues as well.

Personally I am OS neutral, using Mac Mini M1, my laptop and desktop are both using dual boot (Windows 11 and Ubuntu Linux).
I'm also neutral. To me, knowing more is better. But in recent years usoft has been forcing edge upon users. I hate that they can do that type of things.
 
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