MacBook Air 2020

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Any idea how the 14 days return works during C.B Period?

My mbp (2015) died and i looking to get a replacement. But not sure if i will like the MacBook Air.

You just have to pack your MacBook Air back to its original packaging and wait for DHL to come up and pick it from you.
 

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First impressions after 8 hours of use. I restored an original time machine from my old macbook pro. Took awhile and after the restore was done, the macbook air was unusable due to the indexing that was being done. After an hour or two the mac finally settled down and is quite snappy to use. HOWEVER, the fans do kick up quite abit. One thing that i do use is screen sharing on discord and this macbook air can handle screen sharing but the cpu is always at 100 degrees and the fans are at full blast when screen sharing. Quite a deal breaker honestly. I'll keep using it for now. Maybe its still indexing in the background and stuff. But so far the fans do kick in quite alot.

Tested with the i5, 16gb ram and 512gb ssd model
 
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Status of “With delivery courier” dated today at 10.28am means it will be delivered to my home today?
 

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First impressions after 8 hours of use. I restored an original time machine from my old macbook pro. Took awhile and after the restore was done, the macbook air was unusable due to the indexing that was being done. After an hour or two the mac finally settled down and is quite snappy to use. HOWEVER, the fans do kick up quite abit. One thing that i do use is screen sharing on discord and this macbook air can handle screen sharing but the cpu is always at 100 degrees and the fans are at full blast when screen sharing. Quite a deal breaker honestly. I'll keep using it for now. Maybe its still indexing in the background and stuff. But so far the fans do kick in quite alot.

Tested with the i5, 16gb ram and 512gb ssd model

when e CPU is at 100 deg what's e distribution of e cores usage at? 100%?
 

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isnt the new 16 inch mbp known for its good thermal performance?

Sent from Google PIXEL 2 XL using GAGT

Yes, thermal performance have been improved on the 16" but Apple increased the fan speeds, heat pipe diameter and air vent holes to compensate Intel's "hotter" 14nm CPUs.

This is more or less a "damage control" approach, and the drawback will be inevitably louder fan noises.

It appears that 2020 MacBook Air users experience louder fan noises too.

Apple has done their part. It's now Intel's turn to do the right thing, and that is to introduce 7nm chips.
 
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Status of “With delivery courier” dated today at 10.28am means it will be delivered to my home today?

Okay, quick update.

This afternoon I received the MBA 2020, i5, 256gd SSD, 8gb memory.

Opened Safari with 3 tabs.

one for trading account
one for whatsapp
one for youtube / netflix

The top middle part of the keyboard gets too hot for my liking.

When I plugged in the power cable, I get static feel too.

I expect more from Apple's product.

I have arranged return and refund 15min ago.

Yup. All on the same day.

I am going to get the Dell XPS 13 2020 instead.

Mac OS was my preferred choice but it was not meant to be.
 

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Okay, quick update.

This afternoon I received the MBA 2020, i5, 256gd SSD, 8gb memory.

Opened Safari with 3 tabs.

one for trading account
one for whatsapp
one for youtube / netflix

The top middle part of the keyboard gets too hot for my liking.

When I plugged in the power cable, I get static feel too.

I expect more from Apple's product.

I have arranged return and refund 15min ago.

Yup. All on the same day.

I am going to get the Dell XPS 13 2020 instead.

Mac OS was my preferred choice but it was not meant to be.

yeah, im feeling the same way, coming from a 2015 mbp. This 2020 air feels really lackluster. I had 8 tabs open in safari, the mac photos app and discord open. the photos app was chugging while scrolling through and once in awhile my mac would slow to a crawl and the force touch trackpad wouldnt click for 10 seconds or so as i see the spinning beachball. Really sucks
 

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yeah, im feeling the same way, coming from a 2015 mbp. This 2020 air feels really lackluster. I had 8 tabs open in safari, the mac photos app and discord open. the photos app was chugging while scrolling through and once in awhile my mac would slow to a crawl and the force touch trackpad wouldnt click for 10 seconds or so as i see the spinning beachball. Really sucks

For new macbook or new OS installed or new SSD fixed, it's normal for it to run hot as the processor is indexing. It will be normal after a day or 2 especially if you have large data transferred from the previous mac.
 

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For new macbook or new OS installed or new SSD fixed, it's normal for it to run hot as the processor is indexing. It will be normal after a day or 2 especially if you have large data transferred from the previous mac.

Yeah I hope that’s the case. I transferred 300gb from an old time machine. The indexing appears to have finished yesterday. But I’ll give it a day or two more. Another thing that I use is discord screen share. Just sharing some docs or presentations. And the laptop all 4 cores shoot up to 100 degrees within the first minute and the fan is just blaring non stop. It’s really really annoying. This is also with just safari and 5 tabs open. I’ve not even opened my docs or power point apps lol. And it will often just crash and beachball for 3-5 minutes while the screen sharing is going on. And I will need to hard restart it. I will upload a video soon showing the choppiness of this laptop after a fresh restart
 

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For new macbook or new OS installed or new SSD fixed, it's normal for it to run hot as the processor is indexing. It will be normal after a day or 2 especially if you have large data transferred from the previous mac.

Are u saying i should let it run for 2 more days?

What is indexing?
 

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Are u saying i should let it run for 2 more days?

What is indexing?

indexing is when it needs to read and organize all the files on the computer. Normally it takes a day or two after a backup/restore. If you hit command+space, it will show indexing under the search bar as you type something. That is just the files. But the backend, normally it wont show.
 

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indexing is when it needs to read and organize all the files on the computer. Normally it takes a day or two after a backup/restore. If you hit command+space, it will show indexing under the search bar as you type something. That is just the files. But the backend, normally it wont show.

But i got no files to transfer/backup/restore. It is a clean slate.

So I am surprised it runs hot just by opening some basic apps.
 

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But i got no files to transfer/backup/restore. It is a clean slate.

So I am surprised it runs hot just by opening some basic apps.

yeah to be brutally honest, i really hate this laptop now. It sits at like 70 - 100 degrees constantly while doing menial tasks. I know this is not a pro machine. But come on, 5 tabs open (safari, not chrome) and the mac photos app and spotify and discord and its at 85 degrees celsius and sometimes hitting 100. I cant even use discord sreenshare comfortably because the fan is just blarring doing its best to cool the cpu. Plus while the fan is at max speed, the screenshare is not even smooth. The mac gets all choppy and is just borderline useable. Coming from the 2015, 15inch, maybe i was just spoiled by that model That was the best laptop ive owned and moving from that to this, the macos experience is so much worse.
 

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yeah to be brutally honest, i really hate this laptop now. It sits at like 70 - 100 degrees constantly while doing menial tasks. I know this is not a pro machine. But come on, 5 tabs open (safari, not chrome) and the mac photos app and spotify and discord and its at 85 degrees celsius and sometimes hitting 100. I cant even use discord sreenshare comfortably because the fan is just blarring doing its best to cool the cpu. Plus while the fan is at max speed, the screenshare is not even smooth. The mac gets all choppy and is just borderline useable. Coming from the 2015, 15inch, maybe i was just spoiled by that model That was the best laptop ive owned and moving from that to this, the macos experience is so much worse.

Are you going to refund it?

For me, yes. Mentioned earlier too.

Already packed it inside the boxes. Waiting to be shipped back on 23 Apr.
 
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Are you going to refund it?

For me, yes. Mentioned earlier too.

Already packed it inside the boxes. Waiting to be shipped back on 23 Apr.

Ill wait till the 12 or 13th day. I really need a laptop right now. I am for sure returning it. I really love macos but the options from apple right now are either casual use or pro use. Nothing in the middle. Hopefully when i return this the macbook pro 13inch is not too far away.
 

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after seeing your post, i feel like cancelling the order. but it just changed status to preparing to ship. lol. guess i have to receive it and then return it. rumours saying mbp releasing next month
 

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after seeing your post, i feel like cancelling the order. but it just changed status to preparing to ship. lol. guess i have to receive it and then return it. rumours saying mbp releasing next month

This laptop has so much going for it, but the cooling really is a big let down. The fan is just obnoxious. Before i thought, aiya can la. Shouldnt be too bad, but the fan noise after awhile is just really annoying, think about it, 8,000rpm constantly. In general this laptop is just fine but nothing more. For the average user, just browsing, it would still be hard for me to recommend this laptop. Maybe get the i3 model, cause the i3 model is cooler. This laptop really fell short during screen sharing applications. Unfortunately i need it for sharing presentations and docs and it cant even comfortably do that. Its really meant for the very very basic user.

Here are some screenshots of my thermals

https://imgur.com/a/pFmVsxW
 

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Thank you for the feedback. Looks like my temptation died down much.

its not worth the wait. I waited 3 weeks plus for this. Totally not worth it. Also, this is just my anecdote. I may have gotten a faulty model. But the thermal issues reported seem to be in line with my experience
 
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