[mobo] Intel Skylake details....

[MoneyFace =p]

Info from another local forum speculate this year's current Haswell Refresh and upcoming Broadwell will be a rather short-living platform...

Deja Vu ar..... Nehalem/Westmere.... Oregon-made......


But the presence of LGA chips is still good news for all! Skylake im coming!

 

[klap_hanz]

Report: Specifications of Intel 100-Series Chipsets

new Intel chipset and processor coming soon in July this year...can't wait to see now mobos from Asus, Asrock, MSI, Gigabyte...

Z170, H170, H110 and etc

 

[killerslayer92]

Unlocked Intel Skylake desktop CPUs arriving by Q3 this year

does this mean that broadwell is dead? 1Q of availability before skylake?

 

[Gattberserk]

Unlocked Intel Skylake desktop CPUs arriving by Q3 this year

does this mean that broadwell is dead? 1Q of availability before skylake?

It wont be dead for those who want a budget orientated system or a small upgrade over their existing Haswell setup.


I am pretty sure the Skylake K is going to be in the range of 400-500 USD or even higher when it is released, either that or the new Z170 chipset will cost a bomb.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

Seems to me that Intel is trying to fit the new LGA1151 Skylake platform between our usual mainstream platform and HEDT platform.

Intel is smart enough to equip with more PCIe 3.0 lanes and other features (and perhaps label them with higher price tag) to entice people who wants the best of a quad core system.

By choosing to release both microarch in the same year, they both tackle audience wanting to upgrade from Haswell (to broadwell), as well as from anywhere Ivy Bridge and older (to a brand new Skylake).

 

[KWSW]

Finally can look forward to upgrading my rig!

 

[Entry Level PC]

going to tong until 2016 for AMD CPU

 

[daniel798]

I though it was supposed to be broadwell-k and skylake non-k first...

Anyway still need to add ddr4 prices for skylake builds. Hope it will go down by then

 

[trenzterra]

Interesting. Reminds me of socket 754 and 939 with amd last time

 

[MoneyFace =p]

I though it was supposed to be broadwell-k and skylake non-k first...

Anyway still need to add ddr4 prices for skylake builds. Hope it will go down by then

It still holds true, glad that Skylake-K is coming much earlier than i thought.

Skylake seems to support both DDR3 & 4 IIRC.

Unfortunately, looking at the past trend of DDR 1, 2 and 3, DDR4 price will not hit bottom until at least Cannonlake and beyond...

 

[Gattberserk]

It still holds true, glad that Skylake-K is coming much earlier than i thought.

Skylake seems to support both DDR3 & 4 IIRC.

Unfortunately, looking at the past trend of DDR 1, 2 and 3, DDR4 price will not hit bottom until at least Cannonlake and beyond...

Skylake K is going to make everyone happy... Cant imagine there is no OC in the first lineup for Skylake S, liddat Z170 board will have no uses in the market.


And we will be back to the primitive BCLK OCing again... Thankfully now we don't have to.

 

[killerslayer92]

Interesting. Reminds me of socket 754 and 939 with amd last time

what happened with those 2 socket? skylake socket is different from broadwell socket yes?

 

[trenzterra]

what happened with those 2 socket? skylake socket is different from broadwell socket yes?

The Socket 754/940 was introduced in around Sep/Oct 2003 as a stopgap solution for the Athlon 64 (FX) before they were replaced by Socket 939 just 8 to 9 months later. In this case, seems like Broadwell is a stopgap for Skylake as well.

I was on 754 and it sucked because you could hardly find a PCI-Express mobo for it when it became mainstream in 2005.

 

[Gattberserk]

skylake socket is different from broadwell socket yes?

Yes different, the chipset they use is radically different in connectivity so yes a change in MB is mandatory if u are upgrading from a haswell.


I do have a bad news, it look like we are stuck with Skylake for at least 3 years, given 14nm just out and is already in the Intel tock phase. 10nm wont be coming next year that is for (very damn) sure.

 

[ocer9999]

Will it be a new socket?

 

[Gattberserk]

Will it be a new socket?

Yes, new socket is 1151.

 

[trenzterra]

Yes different, the chipset they use is radically different in connectivity so yes a change in MB is mandatory if u are upgrading from a haswell.


I do have a bad news, it look like we are stuck with Skylake for at least 3 years, given 14nm just out and is already in the Intel tock phase. 10nm wont be coming next year that is for (very damn) sure.

Yep. But thankfully Intel did some much-needed futureproofing with Skylake. With USB 3.1 on the horizon and other things needing lots of PCI-E bandwidth, I'm glad they increased the number of lanes etc.

To me I don't mind progress slowing a little: it's damn sian when one component spoils and you realise you have to change everything because you can't find replacement parts... forced obsolescence, so to speak.

It's amazing how Intel is already at 14nm whereas everyone else is still struggling to get on 20nm... AMD has been at 28nm for god knows how long. I wonder how long Intel can sustain tick-tock. 10nm and beyond seems hard.

 

[Gattberserk]

Yep. But thankfully Intel did some much-needed futureproofing with Skylake. With USB 3.1 on the horizon and other things needing lots of PCI-E bandwidth, I'm glad they increased the number of lanes etc.

To me I don't mind progress slowing a little: it's damn sian when one component spoils and you realise you have to change everything because you can't find replacement parts... forced obsolescence, so to speak.

It's amazing how Intel is already at 14nm whereas everyone else is still struggling to get on 20nm... AMD has been at 28nm for god knows how long. I wonder how long Intel can sustain tick-tock. 10nm and beyond seems hard.

Samsung + global foundry are less than a year away from Intel in process node just fyi. Intel need to speed up or else they will be overtaken

 

[killerslayer92]

Yep. But thankfully Intel did some much-needed futureproofing with Skylake. With USB 3.1 on the horizon and other things needing lots of PCI-E bandwidth, I'm glad they increased the number of lanes etc.

To me I don't mind progress slowing a little: it's damn sian when one component spoils and you realise you have to change everything because you can't find replacement parts... forced obsolescence, so to speak.

It's amazing how Intel is already at 14nm whereas everyone else is still struggling to get on 20nm... AMD has been at 28nm for god knows how long. I wonder how long Intel can sustain tick-tock. 10nm and beyond seems hard.

its cos of tsmc... too happy on 28nm cos the longer u stay there the better the yields hence more profit.

but yea intel shldnt slow.. samsung using 16nm finfet

 

[Piezoq]

Samsung + global foundry are less than a year away from Intel in process node just fyi. Intel need to speed up or else they will be overtaken

Intel spent 2014 ironing out yield issues on 14nm. It looks like the other foundries will face similar challenges in volume production at 16nm.

Broadwell (14nm) limited availability in end 2014. I wonder when we'll see the first 16nm silicone product. Perhaps 2016.

Are there any 20nm products other than the Iphone currently?