Mothership - WP MP Kenneth Tiong asks if PAP will 'categorically reject' support from Critical Spectator

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The thing is newbie oppo mp, so fast challenge 老将?

Where got so easy of course kanna shoot
Actually he did quite well. The lawyer tried to avoid say yes no until he conclude ministar refuse to reject polish dog and made him throw smoke bomb...

if he took the moral high ground and did exactly that, thereby cutting off opp support from other sources by sacrificing a insignificant polish dog, he actually tan tio, since they control most form of support and media.....

so the qn is who is this polish poddle and y sham balk at sacrificing him.....
 
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My replies to both facts -

Fact 1: Sham brought out the aspect of Foreign Interference while on his speech on race/religion, not KT. KT merely responded.

Fact 2: PAS interacted with PAP, so even if foreign interference is on PAP's side. Unless the meeting in which PS pointed it where PAP interacted with PAS, did WP participate.
If not, then onus is on PAP not WP.

Fact 1: I ask a simple question. Does Noor Deros consider foreign interference. Im expecting an answer from you that he is not. And with that common ground , we can move forward. Unfortunately , your answer is Sham bring up so KT merely responded. LOL

Fact 2: Im pretty confused by your reply. Surely you didnt read the article i posted on this and you only listen to PS comments.

From the above simple facts , You are not open enough so it think it is very hard to find a common ground with you if you keep aiming at PAP for your problems.
 

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Actually he did quite well. The lawyer tried to avoid say yes no until he conclude ministar refuse to reject polish dog and made him throw smoke bomb...

if he took the moral high ground and did exactly that, thereby cutting off opp support from other sources by sacrificing a insignificant polish dog, he actually tan tio, since they control most form of support and media.....

so the qn is who is this polish poddle and y sham balk at sacrificing him.....
Hmmm I never thought of that angle, but u do make a good point.

Why PAP don't want to disavow the Polish Poodle, it is indeed possible that he might be part of the IB supported by public funds. :eek:
 

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Hmmm I never thought of that angle, but u do make a good point.

Why PAP don't want to disavow the Polish Poodle, it is indeed possible that he might be part of the IB supported by public funds. :eek:
from the way the poodle unconditionally lick their boots, i would conclude there is a high chance it could be someone's alt account, with a amdk avatar to feel dk.......
 

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https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...-selective-standards-on-foreign-interference/

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...tiong-on-racially-charged-foreign-commentary/

These 2 articles explain clearly why there is double standards on the part of Scumugam, as he always do when attacking oppo.

:s22:
Quite well explained. A slight pity Kenneth didn't raise examples. Wouldn't CS' "abandonment of Muslim votes and pivoting to Chinese with Eileen Chong" a play of race?

Too bad Chong pang is full of boomers who pedestalised Shan ge high high.
 

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Quite well explained. A slight pity Kenneth didn't raise examples. Wouldn't CS' "abandonment of Muslim votes and pivoting to Chinese with Eileen Chong" a play of race?

Too bad Chong pang is full of boomers who pedestalised Shan ge high high.
cdc ftw.......
 

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Fact 1: I ask a simple question. Does Noor Deros consider foreign interference. Im expecting an answer from you that he is not. And with that common ground , we can move forward. Unfortunately , your answer is Sham bring up so KT merely responded. LOL

Fact 2: Im pretty confused by your reply. Surely you didnt read the article i posted on this and you only listen to PS comments.

From the above simple facts , You are not open enough so it think it is very hard to find a common ground with you if you keep aiming at PAP for your problems.
1.) You changed the entire premises of argument from our original debate to Noor Deros not considered foreign Interference?

No worries, since you asked this question just only earlier (Not in our original exchange).

I am more than willing to answer "No" since Deros is technically a Singaporean based in Malaysia.

2.) I am confused at your confusion.

Pretty sure very early I was the one to break down Sham's entire addeess into a.) Inviting Racial/Religious elements into Politics and b.) Aspect of Foreign Interference.

In my opinion, CS can technically be considered Foreign Interference (Some don't but some do).


Not sure on how interpret it as "Aiming PAP" when all I did was to break down into a.) and b.)
(Avoiding the use of 1.) And 2.) twice),

To further reinforce my point on KT debating with Sham on b.) above, which I pointed out earlier.

I am also finding it hard to find common ground with you, likewise. You are more than welcome to challenge my argument.
 
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Quite well explained. A slight pity Kenneth didn't raise examples. Wouldn't CS' "abandonment of Muslim votes and pivoting to Chinese with Eileen Chong" a play of race?

Too bad Chong pang is full of boomers who pedestalised Shan ge high high.
Singapore got too many voters that only care about their CDC vouchers, SG60 vouchers, GST vouchers than to look further on issues. Political fairness is too far from their minds. Sad case. :o
 

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Quite well explained. A slight pity Kenneth didn't raise examples. Wouldn't CS' "abandonment of Muslim votes and pivoting to Chinese with Eileen Chong" a play of race?

Too bad Chong pang is full of boomers who pedestalised Shan ge high high.

cdc ftw.......

Singapore got too many voters that only care about their CDC vouchers, SG60 vouchers, GST vouchers than to look further on issues. Political fairness is too far from their minds. Sad case. :o
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...tiong-on-racially-charged-foreign-commentary/

Quite an interesting and sensible insight.
 

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1.) You changed the entire premises of argument from our original debate to Noor Deros not considered foreign Interference?

No worries, since you asked this question just only earlier (Not in our original exchange).

I am more than willing to answer "No" since Deros is technically a Singaporean based in Malaysia.

2.) I am confused at your confusion.

Pretty sure very early I was the one to break down Sham's entire addeess into a.) Inviting Racial/Religious elements into Politics and b.) Aspect of Foreign Interference.

In my opinion, CS can technically be considered Foreign Interference (Some don't but some do).


Not sure on how interpret it as "Aiming PAP" when all I did was to break down into a.) and b.)
(Avoiding the use of 1.) And 2.) twice),

To further reinforce my point on KT debating with Sham on b.) above, which I pointed out earlier.

I am also finding it hard to find common ground with you, likewise. You are more than welcome to challenge my argument.
1) Your "No" means Deros is Singaporean and not a foreigner. Thus he cant be accused of foreign interference right?
And therefore you cant compare Deros with CS!

2) Can you read the article which KT refer to as racially charged commentary from CS and tell us which paragraph or sentence constitute you to think that it is consider a foreign interference?

3) MHA statement as per link
https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/press-releases/mha-response-to-pas-15-oct-2025-statement

Refer to point 3 where MHA say it cross the line.
Refer to point 10 on how MHA "judge" it cross the line.

Do you agree with those 2 points?
 

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Why is there to argue and debate by WP?

WP is powerless. They cannot do anything. The entire machinery is not on their sides.

In politics, who has the ultimate power rules.
 
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