Need a new keyboard

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Floating key design
Slient Switch
Full Size, But no macro
Removable cable must be usb c
No need leds

Any recommendation thanks!

Please recommend up to $300
 

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Not many people uses silent switches out there, so quite uncommon to purchase them.

I know ikbc has keyboards with Cherry MX Silent Red switches (I'm using them), but those are not floating key designs nor do they have detachable usb c cable. Ducky has them too, but again, not floating keys designs. I believe floating key designs are quite rare among the more expensive mech keyboards as well, cause it makes the keyboard look "cheap".

Also, do note that silent switches have this slight mushy feeling to it when you bottom out your key, because of the dampeners on the switch stem (see picture below, the white color part). If you like crisp and smooth keypresses, silent switches may not be for you. But if you're just interested in having silent mech keyboards (like for office uses), and is not too concern with the mushy feeling (think membrane keyboard, but less mushy), then i guess you can go ahead with the silent switches.

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To be honest, not too sure about keyboards with floating keys design.
If no else can recommend silent switches keyboard with floating keycaps design, then i'd say you can consider getting a hotswap keyboard, then just buying the silent switches separately and then swapping them into your keyboard.

E.g., Tecware Phantom Elite (without switches) for S$79, then buying silent switches separately. BUT Tecware Phantom Elite does not come with removable usb cables.

OR

GMMK (without switches and keycaps i think) for S$99. Then buying the silent switches and keycaps separately. SIMILARLY, does not come with removable USB cables for their full size version.

Silent Switches:
Cherry MX Silent Red (KBDFans. US$5.50 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs for full size keyboard)
Cherry MX Silent Red (Taobao KBDFans. RMB39.20 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs for full size keyboard)
Gateron Silent Red (KBDFans. US$3.80 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs for full size keyboard)
Gateron Silent Switches (Taobao. RMB24.50 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs as well)
You can also find premium silent switches from ZealPC (Zilent / Healio), but those are like S$1.60 per switch...

Feel free to throw in extra O rings for even more silent feeling, but additional mushy feeling.
(Which is abit stupid as well, it's like turning a mech keyboard into a membrane keyboard by adding all these dampeners which makes it mushy mushy, just like a membrane board)

TL;DR
Silent switches are not as common in prebuilts.
Silent switches has a slightly mushy feeling when you bottom out.
Floating key designs are uncommon in more expensive mech keyboards.
Get a hotswap keyboard with floating key designs, and replace with silent keys that are bought separately.
 
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Not many people uses silent switches out there, so quite uncommon to purchase them.

I know ikbc has keyboards with Cherry MX Silent Red switches (I'm using them), but those are not floating key designs nor do they have detachable usb c cable. Ducky has them too, but again, not floating keys designs. I believe floating key designs are quite rare among the more expensive mech keyboards as well, cause it makes the keyboard look "cheap".

Also, do note that silent switches have this slight mushy feeling to it when you bottom out your key, because of the dampeners on the switch stem (see picture below, the white color part). If you like crisp and smooth keypresses, silent switches may not be for you. But if you're just interested in having silent mech keyboards (like for office uses), and is not too concern with the mushy feeling (think membrane keyboard, but less mushy), then i guess you can go ahead with the silent switches.

2_6a70db05-7810-4e25-931e-e7c96263c0d4.jpg


To be honest, not too sure about keyboards with floating keys design.
If no else can recommend silent switches keyboard with floating keycaps design, then i'd say you can consider getting a hotswap keyboard, then just buying the silent switches separately and then swapping them into your keyboard.

E.g., Tecware Phantom Elite (without switches) for S$79, then buying silent switches separately. BUT Tecware Phantom Elite does not come with removable usb cables.

OR

GMMK (without switches and keycaps i think) for S$99. Then buying the silent switches and keycaps separately. SIMILARLY, does not come with removable USB cables for their full size version.

Silent Switches:
Cherry MX Silent Red (KBDFans. US$5.50 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs for full size keyboard)
Cherry MX Silent Red (Taobao KBDFans. RMB39.20 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs for full size keyboard)
Gateron Silent Red (KBDFans. US$3.80 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs for full size keyboard)
Gateron Silent Switches (Taobao. RMB24.50 for a pack of 10. Get 11 packs as well)
You can also find premium silent switches from ZealPC (Zilent / Healio), but those are like S$1.60 per switch...

Feel free to throw in extra O rings for even more silent feeling, but additional mushy feeling.
(Which is abit stupid as well, it's like turning a mech keyboard into a membrane keyboard by adding all these dampeners which makes it mushy mushy, just like a membrane board)

TL;DR
Silent switches are not as common in prebuilts.
Silent switches has a slightly mushy feeling when you bottom out.
Floating key designs are uncommon in more expensive mech keyboards.
Get a hotswap keyboard with floating key designs, and replace with silent keys that are bought separately.
hi boss what u think of hyper x alloy origin aqua tactile switch
 

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hi boss what u think of hyper x alloy origin aqua tactile switch
Never tried before, but I did a quick google and their Hyper X Aqua Tactile switch doesnt seem to be the "silent" type. If you truly want "silent" switches, you might want to reconsider.
 

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Never tried before, but I did a quick google and their Hyper X Aqua Tactile switch doesnt seem to be the "silent" type. If you truly want "silent" switches, you might want to reconsider.
oh for me as long as not clicky can liao haha, thats what i meant by silent..

but it seem to suit all my wants!
 

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oh for me as long as not clicky can liao haha, thats what i meant by silent..

but it seem to suit all my wants!
If you like it, then just go for it!
Afterall, it's a personal preference thing. What others may like, you may not like.

Some may like a satisfying low-pitch and deep sounding "Thoc", some may like a sharp crisp "Tiak". Some gamers may like sharp, loud, "TIK" (clicky switches). Others may prefer a keyboard that produces minimal sound.

Best if you can go try out the keys yourself.

GENERALLY, here are 2 things/issues which you should be looking out for
1) Stabilizer rattle. Lightly tap on the left/right edges of the spacebar, shift keys, enter key and backspace key + (numpad "+" and "enter" key for full size keyboard). If you can hear a rattle sound, then there's room for improvements.
2) Pinging sound after each key presses. Type hard and type fast on the keyboard, spam a key. Maybe try pressing down 1 key fully, and releasing it in a swift motion. Do all these preferably in a quiet environment. Try to double up by using a phone to record the sound as well. You'll want to avoid any keyboards that has this "pinging" sound that lingers after each keypress (both down and upstroke). It sounds like "ying ying ying", as if a spring/metal vibrating in the keyboard.
 

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If you like it, then just go for it!
Afterall, it's a personal preference thing. What others may like, you may not like.

Some may like a satisfying low-pitch and deep sounding "Thoc", some may like a sharp crisp "Tiak". Some gamers may like sharp, loud, "TIK" (clicky switches). Others may prefer a keyboard that produces minimal sound.

Best if you can go try out the keys yourself.

GENERALLY, here are 2 things/issues which you should be looking out for
1) Stabilizer rattle. Lightly tap on the left/right edges of the spacebar, shift keys, enter key and backspace key + (numpad "+" and "enter" key for full size keyboard). If you can hear a rattle sound, then there's room for improvements.
2) Pinging sound after each key presses. Type hard and type fast on the keyboard, spam a key. Maybe try pressing down 1 key fully, and releasing it in a swift motion. Do all these preferably in a quiet environment. Try to double up by using a phone to record the sound as well. You'll want to avoid any keyboards that has this "pinging" sound that lingers after each keypress (both down and upstroke). It sounds like "ying ying ying", as if a spring/metal vibrating in the keyboard.
thanks for the tips. will check it out later.. but it should be fine.. watched a lot of reviews on it :)
 

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If you like it, then just go for it!
Afterall, it's a personal preference thing. What others may like, you may not like.

Some may like a satisfying low-pitch and deep sounding "Thoc", some may like a sharp crisp "Tiak". Some gamers may like sharp, loud, "TIK" (clicky switches). Others may prefer a keyboard that produces minimal sound.

Best if you can go try out the keys yourself.

GENERALLY, here are 2 things/issues which you should be looking out for
1) Stabilizer rattle. Lightly tap on the left/right edges of the spacebar, shift keys, enter key and backspace key + (numpad "+" and "enter" key for full size keyboard). If you can hear a rattle sound, then there's room for improvements.
2) Pinging sound after each key presses. Type hard and type fast on the keyboard, spam a key. Maybe try pressing down 1 key fully, and releasing it in a swift motion. Do all these preferably in a quiet environment. Try to double up by using a phone to record the sound as well. You'll want to avoid any keyboards that has this "pinging" sound that lingers after each keypress (both down and upstroke). It sounds like "ying ying ying", as if a spring/metal vibrating in the keyboard.
keyboard turned out to be super good, its a great piece of metal.
 
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