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Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU and Mobo, currently running i5 7600 with GTX 1080 Ti.

I use my PC mainly for gaming and some excel sheets works. I'm leaning towards AMD Ryzen 5 3600x due to my budget of only 600 bucks. I'm using a Dell 34" 1440p monitor and intend to keep using it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.
 

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Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU and Mobo, currently running i5 7600 with GTX 1080 Ti.

I use my PC mainly for gaming and some excel sheets works. I'm leaning towards AMD Ryzen 5 3600x due to my budget of only 600 bucks. I'm using a Dell 34" 1440p monitor and intend to keep using it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.

i5 7600 with GTX 1080 Ti still good for gaming why the need to upgrade.
 

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At those resolutions you are more GPU limited than CPU limited.
 

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Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU and Mobo, currently running i5 7600 with GTX 1080 Ti.

I use my PC mainly for gaming and some excel sheets works. I'm leaning towards AMD Ryzen 5 3600x due to my budget of only 600 bucks. I'm using a Dell 34" 1440p monitor and intend to keep using it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.

1080ti with 2k reso and i5 gen 7, i dont think u need an upgrade.

is there something thats bothering you? slowness in playing game? or stuttering that caused u to want to upgrade?
 

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Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU and Mobo, currently running i5 7600 with GTX 1080 Ti.

I use my PC mainly for gaming and some excel sheets works. I'm leaning towards AMD Ryzen 5 3600x due to my budget of only 600 bucks. I'm using a Dell 34" 1440p monitor and intend to keep using it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.

as what DJ Pork Chop said.. something not right with your current? maybe list down your com spec. and some sensible bros here will give you good advise.

just a question. are you running SSD or just a Sata III HDD? if it's Sata you might want to consider changing it to SSD which is a cheaper alternative.
 

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Hi guys,

Thank you for the replies. I'd updated my profile with my PC specs as best as I could. This was my first self-build PC and I gotten most the information online as I don't really have anyone to ask (most of my friends are married and busy with kids, some even asked why am I still bothered with gaming at my age).

The reason I was looking at upgrading my CPU was from information I gathered online, indicating that CPU do affect frame rates in games, due to bottleneck and whatnot. But on the other hand, most games don't benefit from CPU running more than 6 cores, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I play mostly open world games such as, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Ghost Recon, just to name a few.
 

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Hi guys,

Thank you for the replies. I'd updated my profile with my PC specs as best as I could. This was my first self-build PC and I gotten most the information online as I don't really have anyone to ask (most of my friends are married and busy with kids, some even asked why am I still bothered with gaming at my age).

The reason I was looking at upgrading my CPU was from information I gathered online, indicating that CPU do affect frame rates in games, due to bottleneck and whatnot. But on the other hand, most games don't benefit from CPU running more than 6 cores, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I play mostly open world games such as, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Ghost Recon, just to name a few.

Coming newer games esp open world games will take advantage of more cpu cores, I will get at least a 8 cores 16 threads like the AMD 3700X cpu for a new built.
 

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Hi guys,

Thank you for the replies. I'd updated my profile with my PC specs as best as I could. This was my first self-build PC and I gotten most the information online as I don't really have anyone to ask (most of my friends are married and busy with kids, some even asked why am I still bothered with gaming at my age).

The reason I was looking at upgrading my CPU was from information I gathered online, indicating that CPU do affect frame rates in games, due to bottleneck and whatnot. But on the other hand, most games don't benefit from CPU running more than 6 cores, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I play mostly open world games such as, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Ghost Recon, just to name a few.

i would understand cpu having a say in ur fps.

but more importantly, are you experiencing frame drop during your gameplay now?
 

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I wouldn't recommend such a minimal upgrade. Also, if u want to upgrade go for the 3600/3700x not 3600x.

Or just wait next year 4000 series for a better upgrade. 7600 to 3600 is not really an upgrade for gaming to be honest. They are pretty on par and you will be spending money for no reason.

https://youtu.be/kngD86ar88s
 
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i would understand cpu having a say in ur fps.

but more importantly, are you experiencing frame drop during your gameplay now?

I've not notice any frame drop but just not the kind of FPS i was expecting in games like Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Odyssey. I'm getting around sub 50s FPS on ultra but on Gears 4 I'm getting avg 70s FPS. So I'm a little confuse here. Is it due to the way the game is using the hardware?

I wouldn't recommend such a minimal upgrade. Also, if u want to upgrade go for the 3600/3700x not 3600x.

Or just wait next year 4000 series for a better upgrade. 7600 to 3600 is not really an upgrade for gaming to be honest. They are pretty on par and you will be spending money for no reason.

Ah I see, one of the reason I'm leaning towards AMD is the price, and Intel hasn't given much to their CPU with the price increment every year.
 
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I've not notice any frame drop but just not the kind of FPS i was expecting in games like Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Odyssey. I'm getting around sub 50s FPS on ultra but on Gears 4 I'm getting avg 70s FPS. So I'm a little confuse here. Is it due to the way the game is using the hardware?



Ah I see, one of the reason I'm leaning towards AMD is the price, and Intel hasn't given much to their CPU with the price increment every year.

could you find out the maximum settings u can go before getting 120fps?

to be able to process that much data does require a strong combination of cpu + gpu.

if you are able to achieve 120fps with lower settings, we can say that there might be bottle necking. if it doesnt reach 120fps with whatever settings u do, it might be on software side.

i would suggest that we look at how we can push your current hardware to it's limit before concluding that an upgrade is needed to achieve 120fps
 

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1440p is more on gpu than cpu, very very few games are affected by cpu at that resolution

for your case, your 7600+1080ti indeed is performing lower than average
first, check if your intel turbo is on

next is get a hw monitor to see the temperatures of the various components, to make sure nothing are throttled due to high temp

then, check if your cpu is running at turbo speed, likewise if your gpu is running at its max speed
 

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could you find out the maximum settings u can go before getting 120fps?

to be able to process that much data does require a strong combination of cpu + gpu.

if you are able to achieve 120fps with lower settings, we can say that there might be bottle necking. if it doesnt reach 120fps with whatever settings u do, it might be on software side.

i would suggest that we look at how we can push your current hardware to it's limit before concluding that an upgrade is needed to achieve 120fps

Alright, lemme try that tonight and see what the findings are.

1440p is more on gpu than cpu, very very few games are affected by cpu at that resolution

for your case, your 7600+1080ti indeed is performing lower than average
first, check if your intel turbo is on

next is get a hw monitor to see the temperatures of the various components, to make sure nothing are throttled due to high temp

then, check if your cpu is running at turbo speed, likewise if your gpu is running at its max speed

Ok, I'll check the temp first and post the findings here.

Thank you for the suggestions and replies everyone, really appreciate it.
 

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I've not notice any frame drop but just not the kind of FPS i was expecting in games like Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Odyssey. I'm getting around sub 50s FPS on ultra but on Gears 4 I'm getting avg 70s FPS. So I'm a little confuse here. Is it due to the way the game is using the hardware?

AC Odyssey is poorly optimized. Same with Origins, which uses the same engine as well. 50 fps on Ultra is quite impressive already.

Ryzen 3600 is faster than 7600k but not by a significant margin. Not worth the jump imo.
 

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just a thought.

I ain't expert on games but DJ Pork's last sentence caught my attention.
what type of connection are you using between your PC and to your Monitor DP or HDMI?

ok I ain't expert on gaming but I do render video editing via HDMI cable
and for Architecture work (CAD) via DP cables.

To me DP is faster in respond time.

could you find out the maximum settings u can go before getting 120fps?

to be able to process that much data does require a strong combination of cpu + gpu.

if you are able to achieve 120fps with lower settings, we can say that there might be bottle necking. if it doesnt reach 120fps with whatever settings u do, it might be on software side.

i would suggest that we look at how we can push your current hardware to it's limit before concluding that an upgrade is needed to achieve 120fps
 

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just a thought.

I ain't expert on games but DJ Pork's last sentence caught my attention.
what type of connection are you using between your PC and to your Monitor DP or HDMI?

ok I ain't expert on gaming but I do render video editing via HDMI cable
and for Architecture work (CAD) via DP cables.

To me DP is faster in respond time.

Hey, I'm using DP, 1.2 I believe.
 

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could you find out the maximum settings u can go before getting 120fps?

to be able to process that much data does require a strong combination of cpu + gpu.

if you are able to achieve 120fps with lower settings, we can say that there might be bottle necking. if it doesnt reach 120fps with whatever settings u do, it might be on software side.

i would suggest that we look at how we can push your current hardware to it's limit before concluding that an upgrade is needed to achieve 120fps

I managed to run some tests over the weekend but I can't post the screen shot due to low post count. The results are as follows and all benchmark tests were ran on fullscreen 3440 x 1440 resolution, V-sync on and DX12 when possible.

Gears 5
Low Setting
Average Framerate - 112 FPS
Average GPU Framerate - 116 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (game) - 118 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (render) - 226 FPS
Average Minimum Framerate (bottom 5%) - 93 FPS

Medium Setting
Average Framerate - 94 FPS
Average GPU Framerate - 93 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (game) - 171 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (render) - 188 FPS
Average Minimum Framerate (bottom 5%) - 75 FPS

High Setting
Average Framerate - 85 FPS
Average GPU Framerate - 87 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (game) - 184 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (render) - 173 FPS
Average Minimum Framerate (bottom 5%) - 68 FPS

Ultra Setting
Average Framerate - 72 FPS
Average GPU Framerate - 73 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (game) - 192 FPS
Average CPU Framerate (render) - 157 FPS
Average Minimum Framerate (bottom 5%) - 60 FPS

Ghost Recon Breakpoint
Medium Setting
Average FPS - 83 FPS
Min: 56 Max:117
CPU - 87%
Min: 73% Max: 94%
GPU - 84%
Min: 63% Max: 97%

High Setting
Average FPS - 80 FPS
Min: 51 Max:116
CPU - 87%
Min: 74% Max: 93%
GPU - 84%
Min: 62% Max: 97%

Very High Setting
Average FPS - 74 FPS
Min: 51 Max:111
CPU - 85%
Min: 74% Max: 93%
GPU - 89%
Min: 68% Max: 97%

Ultra Setting
Average FPS - 69 FPS
Min: 21 Max:106
CPU - 84%
Min: 70% Max: 93%
GPU - 94%
Min: 77% Max: 98%

Shadow Of The Tomb Raider
Low Setting
Average FPS - 73
GPU Bound 37%

FPS CPU Game CPU Render GPU
Min 70 54 76
Max 183 282 203
Average 108 91 100
95% 74 57 86

Medium Setting
Average FPS - 66
GPU Bound 59%

FPS CPU Game CPU Render GPU
Min 67 51 63
Max 166 273 161
Average 105 85 77
95% 73 55 67

High Setting
Average FPS - 65
GPU Bound 67%

FPS CPU Game CPU Render GPU
Min 66 52 60
Max 173 178 159
Average 106 85 75
95% 72 55 65

Highest Setting
Average FPS - 55
GPU Bound 78%

FPS CPU Game CPU Render GPU
Min 1 44 49
Max 196 277 136
Average 104 79 64
95% 75 48 53
 

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Your processor won't be bottlenecked unless you are playing simulation games.

Solution is to upgrade to a 2080ti or lower the resolution on your monitor.
 
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