Need to replace a Palit HD4870 graphics card

[Teo Ming Ern]

Hello,

I'm still using a Phenom X4 system running on a MSI AMD760 chipset mobo with a Palit HD4870 graphics card. This card has been giving me serious problems, as the graphics driver always crashes. My PC will boot but no image displays on my 27.5" Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM monitor.

I would like to replace the card only as the rest of the computer is still good but it runs on a PCIe 2.0 interface. Is it still possible to buy such graphics card? I don't need it for gaming, it's more for running Photoshop mainly. I'm running on my motherboard's graphics chipset but it allows 2048x1152 using the VGA interface which looks crap on my monitor. I want to go back to the digital interface (DVI) to regain the sharpness.

Any suggestions? Cheaper is better. Running Win 7 64-bit.

Thanks!

 

[tamjinhang]

U can get any graphics card basically. Faster than the HD 4870 of course. Even the newest PCIE 3.0 graphics card can run on PCIE 2.0 speed, PCIE standard is backwards compatible. Go ahead and hoot! But remember, don't get a graphics card with only UEFI GOP bios if ur motherboard can't run UEFI BIOS.

And if u're interested, I have some mid-end gfx cards leftover at my side. Perhaps one might suit u?

 

[hengheng220]

I think can consider gtx 750 ba since you don't game.

 

[Ark Law]

GTX650/GTX750

 

[MoneyFace =p]

2nd hand HD 7790/HD 7850 2GB $100-150 for photoshop please....

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

Thanks guys! Wah... so cheap for second hand? I think I'll just buy a new card... low end but with digital interface to my monitor.

 

[bboyboss]

Thanks guys! Wah... so cheap for second hand? I think I'll just buy a new card... low end but with digital interface to my monitor.

Maybe you could take a look in the market place here there's some good deals on older card or like a 7850 is going for $170. Preferably get a card with warranty! If you decide 2nd hand

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

Thing is I was hoping to keep to a Radeon and below $150. Brand new. Are the entry level cards any use? Like the HD6450 or the R7 series? The only game I will play is probably some racing game like Need for Speed. Not very demanding graphically I suppose. Would these work? Note that my native monitor resolution is 2056*1200 I think. The onboard graphics is lowering the resolution some what.

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

U can get any graphics card basically. Faster than the HD 4870 of course. Even the newest PCIE 3.0 graphics card can run on PCIE 2.0 speed, PCIE standard is backwards compatible. Go ahead and hoot! But remember, don't get a graphics card with only UEFI GOP bios if ur motherboard can't run UEFI BIOS.

And if u're interested, I have some mid-end gfx cards leftover at my side. Perhaps one might suit u?

Eh what do you mean left over? Are selling graphics cards? How much would these cost? MY budget is really low.

 

[tamjinhang]

U need a legacy VBIOS inside ur graphics card in order for it to run on ur mobo. Modern gfx card series have UEFI GOP VBIOS, so u can't use them unless it has a 2nd switch housing a legacy VBIOS.

Safest bets are a 2nd hand AMD Radeon HD 6000 series or 2nd hand Nvidia GTX 600 series.

HD 6450 is far too weak for ur use. Get something higher. Hmm, hold on, I still got a BNIB Gigabyte HD 6670 1GB with me? Wanna hoot?

 

[wtfh4x]

7750 should be okay if you can get one new for ard $100 and if you dont need an upgrade from the 4870.

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

U need a legacy VBIOS inside ur graphics card in order for it to run on ur mobo. Modern gfx card series have UEFI GOP VBIOS, so u can't use them unless it has a 2nd switch housing a legacy VBIOS.

Safest bets are a 2nd hand AMD Radeon HD 6000 series or 2nd hand Nvidia GTX 600 series.

HD 6450 is far too weak for ur use. Get something higher. Hmm, hold on, I still got a BNIB Gigabyte HD 6670 1GB with me? Wanna hoot?

Oh no... thanks for the update about the BIOS... didn't know this at all...

I don't mind buying your Gigabyte card if it's not too expensive and it's brand new. I'm ok with the card if it's not more powerful than my HD4870. I just don't want to upgrade my whole system now cos it's just too troublesome. It must be able to display 2056x1200 on my Dell monitor then ok already. Can game or not is really quite secondary lar...

Can PM me your price? Thanks!

 

[tamjinhang]

Well, it's not gg to be as powerful as one HD4870, but at least the HD 6670 is not gg to be a heater.

I upload some pics here. Hold on....

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

7750 should be okay if you can get one new for ard $100 and if you dont need an upgrade from the 4870.

But the BIOS of the graphic card is not compatible with my mobo according to one of the messages lower down.

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

Well, it's not gg to be as powerful as one HD4870, but at least the HD 6670 is not gg to be a heater.

I upload some pics here. Hold on....

Wah... you mean the HD4870 so powerful ah? I remember paying quite a bit for it but it wasn't the most powerful card alive... as long as cheap and good can already... the analog output is a strain on the eye...

 

[tamjinhang]

PM-ed u. Just reply me via sms / whatsapp

HD 4870 doesn't actually have high graphics power. It just eats a darn lot of power and gives out a ton of heat as well. HD 6000 performs phenomenally better than HD 4000 series, so we don't even need to compare the HD 4000 series with current modern graphics cards.

**Hopefully the companies give dual BIOS switches for both kinds of VBIOS soon enough. At least Sapphire has it for the hjigh end models.

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

PM-ed u. Just reply me via sms / whatsapp

HD 4870 doesn't actually have high graphics power. It just eats a darn lot of power and gives out a ton of heat as well. HD 6000 performs phenomenally better than HD 4000 series, so we don't even need to compare the HD 4000 series with current modern graphics cards.

**Hopefully the companies give dual BIOS switches for both kinds of VBIOS soon enough. At least Sapphire has it for the hjigh end models.

Thanks! Sent you a message already.

 

[killerslayer92]

didnt know abt the vbios thing. so what ur saying is that any card newer than amd 6 and nvidia 6 series will not work on old pc (eg core 2 quad, pentium 4)? does this apply to amd processors as well? like phenom.

TS using purely photoshop or have video editing. Video editing is intensive need higher end card. photoshop not a lightweight either especially when editing live. if your work relies on this, get higher end. process faster = less time wasted = higher productivity

 

[muddle]

Got this somewhere

A graphics card does not have to be UEFI-compliant in order to work in a motherboard that supports UEFI. In fact, UEFI is designed to be device-independent, not relying on certain support in hardware.

 

[tamjinhang]

Yeah. That's definitely right. UEFI mobos can support any graphics card. But the other way around for UEFI GOP cards on legacy mobo? I rmb encountering the issue before. Will test again when there's time.