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GJ sealed his own fate by rescuing huazhen from horse stampede ... caused his mama death

hmm.....havent watch so dunno got change the story....

from what i read from a comic book....could be wrong also....

Temujin gave GJ a sealed cloth bag.....he can only open after defeating n vanquishing Hua Le Zi Mo Empire.
Feeling something is amiss, GJ discuss this with his mum.
His mum, being good in embroidery.....nitpick the bag and true enough the secret message ask GJ to invade Song immediately.
GJ decided to take his mum to sneak away...unfortunately....Temujin knew GJ had already seen the secret message....so waylaid both of them.
Temujin held GJ mum as hostage and want GJ to invade Song.
Not wanting to put GJ in a difficult spot, Li Ping (GJ mum) on the spot commit suicide.
I drop a few tears when I read this part......
 

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hmm.....havent watch so dunno got change the story....

from what i read from a comic book....could be wrong also....

Temujin gave GJ a sealed cloth bag.....he can only open after defeating n vanquishing Hua Le Zi Mo Empire.
Feeling something is amiss, GJ discuss this with his mum.
His mum, being good in embroidery.....nitpick the bag and true enough the secret message ask GJ to invade Song immediately.
GJ decided to take his mum to sneak away...unfortunately....Temujin knew GJ had already seen the secret message....so waylaid both of them.
Temujin held GJ mum as hostage and want GJ to invade Song.
Not wanting to put GJ in a difficult spot, Li Ping (GJ mum) on the spot commit suicide.
I drop a few tears when I read this part......
after winning at the battle and finally killing 完顏洪烈, 鐵木真 wanted 郭靖 and his two other son to lead charge southward to attack the song, and given to to them each a 錦囊 pouch containing instruction, but only to be open up for reference after post victory.

郭靖 Is a 宋人, and very against the idea of bringing war to 大宋, after witnessing the mass destruction of lives the war brings about, and the extreme cruetly of 鐵木真 and his army post war antics as to 屠城 total Annihilation of a city.

*One can reference to how cruel 鐵木真 , his sons and Mongolians in 元史記。

Upon reaching back to his tent , hebtold his mum about the nect misson is wage full scale war with 大宋, his mum disagrees.

And thats when 郭靖 show forth the 錦囊 with火漆印。郭氏 suggested to open up and read but 郭靖 ponder over how is that possible to achieve it as the 錦囊 is secured by 鐵木真 火漆印。

Thats when 郭氏 tokd him she got excellent proficiency in needle work, that will allow her to unpick the end of one end and to sew it back 不留痕跡。

Amd in which she did and to their horror, the letter was about post war invading instructions, upon winning if they detect 郭靖 have any sense of reluctancy during war or disobeying of instruction they can execute him 殺無赦。

After knowing this their immediately forms the plan to leave the Mongolians camp and escape.

While 郭靖 went back to his tent to packing up some simple item, 鐵木真 guards arrived and told him 鐵木真 ordered for his arrest and that they have his mum in their custody.

Thus 郭靖 was attested, only to met with his mum at the khan tentage.

鐵木真 ordered for 郭靖 to have his head chopped, and 郭氏 interceded and asked to speak to 郭靖 persuading him to have a change of heart.

鐵木真 Granted the requests.

郭氏Then hold 郭靖 and walk away to one side and in mandarin (note that 鐵木真 and all speak not a word of chinese) told郭靖 you are a 大宋子民 and never in your lifetime to invade 大宋。

and from her inner pocket she drew a dagger to commit suicide, so as 郭靖 have no 後顧之憂。

郭靖 took off with his mum body, and 鐵木真 ordered 哲別 and subsequently 托雷 to give chase.

哲別 Caught up with him and 郭靖 kneeled pleading to his first teacher to allow him to first give burial to his demised mother, and he will follow him back to meet 鐵木真。

But 哲別 dismount and gave 郭靖 his armaments consisting of his bow and arrows and 4 horses plus some taels of golds, instructing him never to come back. But 郭靖 that 鐵木真 will punish 哲別。

that's when loud 馬蹄聲 were audible and it was 托雷 arriving with 郭靖 親兵 and instead of arresting 郭靖 , 托雷pass him gold for his escape. And escorted him twice as they cried.

they parted。

in truth and in 1st ,2nd and 3rd edition (latest) by 查良鏞 aka 金庸 , 郭氏 death was the because of 華爭, that day when 郭靖returned to the tent she was with 郭氏 but left to wait for 郭靖 outside tge tentage as 郭靖 have matters to discuss with his mother.

She overheard the mother and son oair is leaving mongol after opening the 錦囊 and she ran off to ask 鐵木真 to stop them , worried that she would never see them again.

But her action causes the arrest of 郭氏 and郭靖母子, which lead to the eventual death thru suicide of 郭氏。

In a letter to 郭靖 she wrote her regrets to have caused harm but bot specific, and forever to reside with 托雷 family and will not marry other. 黃蓉 Deciphered that in between the lines was 華爭 adnission of guilt to have bunknifed 郭靖。

I have not watch 49 & 50 yet, but if they changed even this part then this a very low point in this drama, lijewise how they change the fight at 醉仙樓 midnight fight triggered by 歐陽鋒 and a mysterious fog to be changed to next morning fight with 歐陽鋒 放 毒煙。

Sigh.
 

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hmm.....havent watch so dunno got change the story....

from what i read from a comic book....could be wrong also....

Temujin gave GJ a sealed cloth bag.....he can only open after defeating n vanquishing Hua Le Zi Mo Empire.
Feeling something is amiss, GJ discuss this with his mum.
His mum, being good in embroidery.....nitpick the bag and true enough the secret message ask GJ to invade Song immediately.
GJ decided to take his mum to sneak away...unfortunately....Temujin knew GJ had already seen the secret message....so waylaid both of them.
Temujin held GJ mum as hostage and want GJ to invade Song.
Not wanting to put GJ in a difficult spot, Li Ping (GJ mum) on the spot commit suicide.
I drop a few tears when I read this part......
because young guojing saved huazhen from horse stampede (not shown in drama, only verbally mentioned by anda ) and thus huazhen admired GJ

that obsessive love caused huazhen to snitch on the mother-son duo opening the pouch .... shown in the drama .... she thought by doing so can stop guojing from leaving mongolia



if guojing didn't become successful in mongolia , yk and mnc would still meet and create yangguo ... so it doesn't matter :s13:
but at least guo-mama won't have to dagger herself
 

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過路稻草人™;107253790 said:
after winning at the battle and finally killing 完顏洪烈, 鐵木真 wanted 郭靖 and his two other son to lead charge southward to attack the song, and given to to them each a 錦囊 pouch containing instruction, but only to be open up for reference after post victory.

郭靖 Is a 宋人, and very against the idea of bringing war to 大宋, after witnessing the mass destruction of lives the war brings about, and the extreme cruetly of 鐵木真 and his army post war antics as to 屠城 total Annihilation of a city.

*One can reference to how cruel 鐵木真 , his sons and Mongolians in 元史記。

Upon reaching back to his tent , hebtold his mum about the nect misson is wage full scale war with 大宋, his mum disagrees.

And thats when 郭靖 show forth the 錦囊 with火漆印。郭氏 suggested to open up and read but 郭靖 ponder over how is that possible to achieve it as the 錦囊 is secured by 鐵木真 火漆印。

Thats when 郭氏 tokd him she got excellent proficiency in needle work, that will allow her to unpick the end of one end and to sew it back 不留痕跡。

Amd in which she did and to their horror, the letter was about post war invading instructions, upon winning if they detect 郭靖 have any sense of reluctancy during war or disobeying of instruction they can execute him 殺無赦。

After knowing this their immediately forms the plan to leave the Mongolians camp and escape.

While 郭靖 went back to his tent to packing up some simple item, 鐵木真 guards arrived and told him 鐵木真 ordered for his arrest and that they have his mum in their custody.

Thus 郭靖 was attested, only to met with his mum at the khan tentage.

鐵木真 ordered for 郭靖 to have his head chopped, and 郭氏 interceded and asked to speak to 郭靖 persuading him to have a change of heart.

鐵木真 Granted the requests.

郭氏Then hold 郭靖 and walk away to one side and in mandarin (note that 鐵木真 and all speak not a word of chinese) told郭靖 you are a 大宋子民 and never in your lifetime to invade 大宋。

and from her inner pocket she drew a dagger to commit suicide, so as 郭靖 have no 後顧之憂。

郭靖 took off with his mum body, and 鐵木真 ordered 哲別 and subsequently 托雷 to give chase.

哲別 Caught up with him and 郭靖 kneeled pleading to his first teacher to allow him to first give burial to his demised mother, and he will follow him back to meet 鐵木真。

But 哲別 dismount and gave 郭靖 his armaments consisting of his bow and arrows and 4 horses plus some taels of golds, instructing him never to come back. But 郭靖 that 鐵木真 will punish 哲別。

that's when loud 馬蹄聲 were audible and it was 托雷 arriving with 郭靖 親兵 and instead of arresting 郭靖 , 托雷pass him gold for his escape. And escorted him twice as they cried.

they parted。

in truth and in 1st ,2nd and 3rd edition (latest) by 查良鏞 aka 金庸 , 郭氏 death was the because of 華爭, that day when 郭靖returned to the tent she was with 郭氏 but left to wait for 郭靖 outside tge tentage as 郭靖 have matters to discuss with his mother.

She overheard the mother and son oair is leaving mongol after opening the 錦囊 and she ran off to ask 鐵木真 to stop them , worried that she would never see them again.

But her action causes the arrest of 郭氏 and郭靖母子, which lead to the eventual death thru suicide of 郭氏。

In a letter to 郭靖 she wrote her regrets to have caused harm but bot specific, and forever to reside with 托雷 family and will not marry other. 黃蓉 Deciphered that in between the lines was 華爭 adnission of guilt to have bunknifed 郭靖。

I have not watch 49 & 50 yet, but if they changed even this part then this a very low point in this drama, lijewise how they change the fight at 醉仙樓 midnight fight triggered by 歐陽鋒 and a mysterious fog to be changed to next morning fight with 歐陽鋒 放 毒煙。

Sigh.

HZ bunknifed GJ part is close to the story-line.

Technically, is it HZ or Temujin who broke the betrothal agreement? That's why a man who honours his words like GJ could just leave...
 

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HZ bunknifed GJ part is close to the story-line.

Technically, is it HZ or Temujin who broke the betrothal agreement? That's why a man who honours his words like GJ could just leave...
the snow peak suppose to be very nice with Ice Crystalization , and the ice block 歐陽鋒 hid behind was translucent thus detected by 黃蓉。

there is loads of missing scene where they discuss about how to trap 老毒物。

歐陽鋒 suppose to be buck naked when he leapt off the snow peak, using his clothing plus his pants as a additional resistance . But did not happened in the show.
 

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Not another ariel lin's HR... :s22:

She is the worst ever HR, period. Nothing she portrays is like what was being described in the novel.

I think really depend on how people views it. To those who knows the story well, she is definitely one of the most deviated HR. However, to those who knows little of the story, they are looking at probably the overall show, their favorite actors and actresses, the motion of the show etc. More of personal preference ba.

I for one hates the weak GCI 18 palms in this series. No dragon no talk!. :o
 

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過路稻草人™;107243869 said:
翁美玲 演繹調皮搗蛋的精氣神韻是很到位, 但外貌和她的牙齒就差了些許。

每次都會有一個她自己都可能不自覺的微動作, 就是以上唇遮蓋上列門牙。

她在第一次以女裝出現的時候就少了沉魚落雁與閉月羞花之境, 即使是朱茵的同一個女裝初次出場也是欠缺了那雪肌通透, 柳影飄飄的感覺, 所帶之頭套裝扮皆不與書中描繪的一般。

多少黃蓉版本就得以李一桐的形神匯聚, 精氣神皆佳,儀表皆和書中作者筆下所敘述撰寫的極為苟同。

翻看了過往的諸套版本, 從小乞丐至女兒裝,我把李一桐擺位第一位, 翁美玲第二位, 朱茵位居第三和周迅寄居第四(聲線和外貌皆為敗筆, 年齡也大了些)

Barabra-- very cunning and intelligent, but super likable, adorable and charming. Average looks though.

Athena Zhu Yin-- very pretty and mischievous, but tanned looking. Not graceful nor elegant. Not cunning.

Zhou xun-- didnt watch

Ariel-- fiery uncouth boorish chillipadi ah-lian. Very irritating. Below average looks. Not fair. Lacks elegance nor gracefulness. Demeanor is shockingly awful. Only good thing is she does show her jealousy well.

LYT-- very pretty, elegant, cute, fair, graceful, captivating with the "girlish" giggle. Appearance and demeanor are exactly as described in novel. Gives the ppl the "wow" at first look on her. Even her fight scenes are very graceful as reflected in her upbringing. Only con is she doesn't show her jealousy and cunning aspects well.

Concur with you. LYT is now the best HR. She actually bothered to read the novel and didn't watch how other actresses portrayed HR. Hence, her portrayal is actually closest to the novel without referencing from earlier actresses. But the best GJ is still felix wang. ;)
 

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過路稻草人™;107255942 said:
the snow peak suppose to be very nice with Ice Crystalization , and the ice block 歐陽鋒 hid behind was translucent thus detected by 黃蓉。

there is loads of missing scene where they discuss about how to trap 老毒物。

歐陽鋒 suppose to be buck naked when he leapt off the snow peak, using his clothing plus his pants as a additional resistance . But did not happened in the show.

The scene where they are supposed to use water to trap west venom? And how he twice fell for it? They may have cut it away.

As for the supposedly naked scene, thank goodness they didn't show it. Don't think anybody wanna watch it. ;)

These are considered very minor deviations which should be acceptable.
 

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The scene where they are supposed to use water to trap west venom? And how he twice fell for it? They may have cut it away.

As for the supposedly naked scene, thank goodness they didn't show it. Don't think anybody wanna watch it. ;)

These are considered very minor deviations which should be acceptable.
All three is very important be it using sand bag to trapped him or the following tine using supposedly hot water but turn into warm water yet change to ice too fast.

But the third time is epic. It totally strip him of his pride as 一代宗師。

三擒三縱
 
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Anyone seen the book on story before 射雕 ?

Main character is 王重阳 from rich man son to 出家。met other 4 and finally 华山轮奸

Don't think i wanna read about how 5 men gang-raped each other on top of a mountain. :s13:

But the gaps between the novels are interesting. e.g. TLBB to LOCH.. HSDS cpater 2 to 3, etc. Can have a lot of filler stories and spin-off plots.
 

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the goat leg thing :s22: heat a bit the bone marrow can become glue


real or jinyong's imagination ?
 

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過路稻草人™;107256397 said:
All three is very important be it using sand bag to trapped him or the following tine using supposedly hot water but turn into warm water yet change to ice too fast.

But the third time is epic. It totally strip him of his pride as 一代宗師。

三擒三縱

The fact that he stalked youngsters and even held one as hostage already stripped him as 一代宗師.
 

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the goat leg thing :s22: heat a bit the bone marrow can become glue


real or jinyong's imagination ?
As in the novel , the scene was supposed to have loads of goats waiting there to be slaughtered or more accurately to have their quad cut off.

Their warm blood from being freshly cut off wound would bond with the icy surface of the snow mount. And supposed to be position at approx 1丈 (9ft) above the next one.

Using 輕功 to reach the next level。

And not as depicted from pre cut legs and heated up then bond them against the wall.
 

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The fact that he stalked youngsters and even held one as hostage already stripped him as 一代宗師.
Whether or not he is 一代宗師, have some bearings over ancient mindset, 士可殺不可辱,that's why in the entrapment via frozen treatment in the second capture , 郭靖 ordered a canvas to cover the ice pillar where 歐陽鋒 was trapped in thus he would not be shamed by the mass of soldiers gather to gawked at the sight.
 
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