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To LancelotDuLac, whom I just realized joined in Mar 2011 perhaps to make trouble here?

FURTHER YOUR ARGUMENT BY PROVIDING A DETAILED, SPECIFIC AND REPRODUCIBLE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT METHODOLOGY THAT YOU CLAIM WILL OUTPERFORM PASSIVE INDEX INVESTMENT METHODS OVER THE LONG-TERM.

I believe this is the 2nd time I have said the above. I will not entertain any of your fallacious arguments any further. It is clear that you are an empty vessel that makes the most noise.
 

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So did I substantiated it with real research that active management can out-perform the market.


You are misrepresenting the results presented in research. Just because there is a statistically plausible case of 5% outperformers, does not means that active investment is better because we cannot figure out if it is due to skill or luck.

EVEN IF we have identified individuals who are more skillful than lucky (perhaps Buffet), we also need to reproduce his methodology in a reproducible manner to make it available to the average joe.

Current findings are flawed of passive investing out-performing 95% because they use a sweeping statistics (which is true unless you can refute about my point on what sample size they are using).


See my earlier post you have not provided any conclusive proof that majority of active funds are "closet indexers". Sample size that used used includes at least hundreds (if not thousands) of mutual funds over 50 year period from the 1950s to 2000s (if memory serves correct).

While I do not out-perform every year in year out, my track record has so far proven to
be better on a cumulative basis. However as I have qualified, there ARE SO MANY MANY MORE BETTER PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY HAVE A BETTER BUT ALSO LONGER TRACK RECORD THAN ME.


You are only one reading, I hardly find that convincing. Unless you can provide a paper or study that concludes that Tactical Asset Allocation (based on analysis of lots of fund manager that use this same method) provide a superior returns to index investing at a level that is worth the risk of underperformance. Time should include at least 20 years if not longer than that.

In other for us to better judge your stellar outperformance, details of your methodology is also needed. While you claim that you benchmark to comparable indexes, we only have your word (which is not worth anything from my perspective).

A common trick among active fund managers is that they do a small or value tilt and then benchmark it against a plain vanilla index. When they outperform consistently it is not surprising because studies have shown that small and value stocks have a higher risk-adjusted expected returns over the long term. In such cases, the fund manager should have benchmark to an appropriate composite index that includes a small-value index. This is one of the many examples of how active fund managers "cheat".

While stats show that 30% can out-perform on a given year and the odds of choosing an outperforming portfolio in the long run is even lower, that is based on a FLAWED SAMPLE SIZE AND ASSUMPTION.


Don't forget that the 30% estimate is assuming EMH is totally wrong. In reality there is some truth to EMH so the percentage will be lower. Real-life data indicates that it drops to 5% over a 30-year rolling period.
1)I need not be out-performing EVERY SINGLE YEAR IN ORDER TO BEAT THE INDEX which is what you concur as well, no?


No you don't need to beat the index year after year but beat it enough to win at the end. However, the studies were conducted by comparing the final performance over a 30 year period so your point does not invalidate the findings from the study.
2)EVEN IF I USED THE ACADEMIC ASSUMPTION WHERE 95% PERFORM BELOW INDEX (READ POINT ON FLAWED 95% FINDINGS), THE DIFFERENTIAL DOWNSIDE OF SAY THE 70-90 PERCENTILE IS HOW MUCH? PERHAPS YOU WAN TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS?


Your argument is flawed because you provide no justification that majority of active funds are "closet indexers". If memory serves correct, the potential for outperformance is only about +1% p.a on average, but the potential for underperformance is much greater at -2% to -3%. The figures are in Bernstein's book.

3) THE 30% THAT OUT-PERFORM ON A GIVEN YEAR, THE UPSIDE COULD BE AS MUCH AS 30% AGAINST INDEX FUND IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.


And so... what is the point you are trying to make here?


 
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And I would like to take another jab at the ridiculous claim that the academic community or even the investment community is moving in consensus to think that active management is better than passive management.

As of this year, Vanguard, the company that pioneered index fund is now the world's largest mutual-fund manager, surpassing Fidelity which is well known for the actively-managed funds.

The majority of the largest ETFs in the world are also index funds. With the exception of GLD that tracks spot gold price, all the ETFs that above >$20billion in assets are passively managed index funds.
http://etfdb.com/compare/market-cap/

Many investors are also realizing the importance of costs (expense ratio), which is increased when people like our banker friend decides to help you invest your money. Very recently, the fund size of VWO has grown larger than EEM. Both track the same MSCI Emerging Index but VWO charges 0.22% ER and EEM 0.69%ER.

If you ask me, I think the reverse is occurring, that people are starting to realize that low-cost index funds are the way to go and active funds or active managers a loser's game.
 
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The random walk hypothesis, considered the bedrock of financial theory and modeling, is challenged by the authors. They show that the financial markets do contain a certain degree of predictability, and they illustrate this by both analyzing empirical data and with the development of various mathematical formalisms.

They conclude from their results that the random walk model is not consistent with the behavior of weekly returns. Interestingly, they find large (negative) autocorrelations in security prices. They do not conclude though that all financial models based on the random walk hypothesis are invalid, but rather they use the specification test to study various stochastic price processes.

Since volatilities do change over time, the authors are careful not to reject the random walk hypothesis because of heteroskedasticity; the test they do employ takes into account changing variances. They also discuss the possible role that non-trading practices may have on their conclusions.

The authors used Monte Carlo simulations to study the variance ratio, Dickey-Fuller, and Box-Pierce tests under Gaussian null and heteroskedastic null hypotheses.

They also consider the power of the variance ratio test against an AR(1) process, AR(1) + random walk, and an integrated AR(1) process models of asset price behavior and they conclude that the variance ratio test is a viable tool to use for inference in financial modeling.

There is also focus on contrarian investment strategiesand concluded, interestingly, that a large portion of contrarian profits cannot be attributed to overreaction.

The most interesting chapter in the book is on long-range dependence in stock market prices, for it is here that many alternative statistical techniques have been devised to study this dependence.

The R/S statistic is modified and then used by the authors to test for long-range dependence in daily and monthly stock return indices. They that after correcting for short-range dependencies, there is no evidence of long-range dependence in this data.

They discuss deviations from the capital asset pricing model effectively the two models which attempt to explain these differences, based on risk-based and nonrisk-based alternatives. These two models are proposed as alternatives to the multifactor asset pricing models that have been employed to explain deviations from CAPM.

Data-snooping biases are investigated using the theory of induced order statistics and tested with Monte Carlo simulations. It is shown of the impact of data-snooping biases in asset pricing models, and how these biases arise from tendencies to focus on anomalous data.

It is interesting to note that by using tick-by-tick feeds of market-transaction data, can detect regularities in stock prices that would have been invisible in the 1990s, in my opinion the situation would be even more vastly advanced now given the advancement of technology since then I suspect.

There is a maximize predictability in asset returns. They use a model of time-varying premiums to estimate what they call the maximally predictable portfolio, with this model using an out-of-sample rolling estimation technique to avoid data snooping problems. Monte Carlo simulations are again used to validate the results of the models.

Emphasizing the discreteness of real price data, the irregular timing of transaction prices, and the conditional nature of price changes, the authors addresses these issues using what they call an ordered probit model. They conclude with their model and its comparison with empirical data, that discreteness is important in financial modeling.

The authors also study transaction data on the S&P 500 futures contracts with the goal of studying price behavior in relation to arbitrageur strategies. They conclude that on the average, mispricing increases with time to maturity and is path-dependent.
 

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Let me give you a much better analogy than your simplistic coin toss,
Using Weiqi or Japanese GO (market), a supercomputer (passive investing) would beat majority of players but yet would lose to a minority of top players (active management).

Theoretically, the supercomputer should be beating everyone due to
a) input of alogrithims and permutations hence by right it knows every possible outcome

Yet due to the complexity of the game (just like the market, highly complex), top players are able to beat it regularly (refers to beating the index on a frequent basis).

So do the top players do it by skill or luck?

Likewise if active managed funds have been out-performing by an extended period, you claim it is still by luck?

With also reference to what you say about Modern Portfolio Theory (which happens to be a Nobel prize winning theory) about being a theory and not cast in stone, the same goes for EMH and passive investing. Until there is a CONCLUSIVE verdict, neither you or me can say one way is better than the other.

A growing conclusion in the academic front is the influence and impact of behavorial finance science in investment which indirectly implicates that one can beat the market due to irrational behaviour.

As to Warren Buffet, He has also argued against EMH, saying the preponderance of value investors among the world's best money managers rebuts the claim of EMH proponents that luck is the reason some investors appear more successful than others.

The reason he endorsed passive investing (as provided by you) is in my guess that if a retail investor (lack of proper background, time and analytical ability) would be better off but he did not endorse passive investing.

Hence the great debate goes on and on....... I ain't a active management fanatic, I think both sides of the coin has it's own merits but to enshrine that passive investing in THE ONLY WAY TO GO and dismiss alternative methods is BULL****[/.


I have never advocated whether ACITVE OR PASSIVE IS BETTER. I think you are the blind retard here.

All I say from START TO END, a FINANCIAL SOLUTION for the individual must be catered to THAT PARTICULAR INDIVDUAL's SITUATION.

I show you arguments from the other side to illustrate the different schools of thought, different methods that have been employed by different people to beat the passive method.

Obviously there is no formula for replication because the investment world is constantly evolving, reaction has to be according to the evolution which is obviously not for the average joe. You are asking for the impossible and you know that.
 
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To LancelotDuLac, whom I just realized joined in Mar 2011 perhaps to make trouble here?

FURTHER YOUR ARGUMENT BY PROVIDING A DETAILED, SPECIFIC AND REPRODUCIBLE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT METHODOLOGY THAT YOU CLAIM WILL OUTPERFORM PASSIVE INDEX INVESTMENT METHODS OVER THE LONG-TERM.

I believe this is the 2nd time I have said the above. I will not entertain any of your fallacious arguments any further. It is clear that you are an empty vessel that makes the most noise.

Repeating a point I made

All I say from START TO END, a FINANCIAL SOLUTION for the individual must be catered to THAT PARTICULAR INDIVDUAL's SITUATION.

I show you arguments from the other side to illustrate the different schools of thought, different methods that have been employed by different people to beat the passive method.

Obviously there is no formula for replication because the investment world is constantly evolving, reaction or pre-action has to be according to the evolution (which is why its called active for a reason) which is obviously not for the average joe. You are asking for the impossible and you know that.

What I have maintained is that active investing is a time-consuming and continual event that does have its potential for better rewards.

My point from the very beginning was NOT ABOUT WHETHER ACTIVE OR PASSIVE WAS BETTER. IT WAS ABOUT PASSIVE AS BEING THE BEST METHOD IS A HALF-TRUTH OR HALF-LIE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
 
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Your argument is flawed because you provide no justification that majority of active funds are "closet indexers". If memory serves correct, the potential for outperformance is only about +1% p.a on average, but the potential for underperformance is much greater at -2% to -3%. The figures are in Bernstein's book.

That stat is based on a AVERAGE underperformance for the <95%.
If I skew the statistics for comparision say from the 70-95% and upper 5%, the findings would be drastically altered I believe.

Also, may I ask what were the assumptions that Bernstein used to arrive at that conclusion of +1%pa on average potential versus -2% to -3% on average potential (The Intellegent Asset Allocator?)

Hence stats given has to be thought at one level deeper beyond the obvious.
 
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To LancelotDuLac, whom I just realized joined in Mar 2011 perhaps to make trouble here?

If you must know why, I only came to this forum to surf around on singaporean's viewpoints on diamonds as I was doing some research on loose diamonds.

I happen to come to this "Money Mind" section out of curiousity (since I work in the finance industry) and started to read about the various threads and found this particular thread highly interesting.
 

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Actually, yes that was my point. To the best of our knowledge, all forms of active investing will lose out to passive investing in the long term. There may *potentially* be new active strategies that can outperform passive investments, but as of today it is not conclusively proven yet. AND... given that there will always be people outperforming of the index, it becomes very hard (especially for the layman) to figure out whether the outperformance is due to skill or luck. Therefore, the best layman investor is best advised to be "average" and stick to passive investments.

I have come across some mention of certain active strategies that *seems* to outperform (based on gross returns) by ~1%, but when taking into account fees, expenses and taxes they underperform a passive index fund. That is the best case I have seen for active investment. Admittedly, I did not go read up on those references.



Here's my definitions, which I think are shared my most people:

Active Investments Concepts: Trading (on a day-to-day basis)), Speculation in stocks, Stock Picking, Market Timing, FOREX, or generally any attempt to outperform the index through superior methodology or strategy.

Passive Investment Concepts: Index Fund, Small and Value Tilting, some forms of Enhanced Indexing (to a certain extent, I only believe in DFA Enhanced indexes, not sure about the rest like WisdomTree), Value Averaging, Strategic Asset Allocation, Rebalancing

Not Sure: Tactical Asset Allocation (it's a pseudo-active strategy) that some people use... I have no strong opinions for it because I have not come across a lot of data on this.

EDIT: Yes, Buffet beats the market... why does everyone love to use him as an example? You do know that even Buffet advises the layman investor to stick with passive index funds right? As I said before, statistically speaking, Passive trumps Active... so there will always be people who outperform the index due to luck and not skill. Now I'm not saying Buffet is all luck and no skill... BUT the question the layman would ask himself is "Do I think I can be the next Buffet?" If the person answers "Yes", by all means ago ahead and do what you will...

I think this evidently proves my point about your inclinations and limitations of lack of exposure.

Since you are so versed in the strengths of passive investing, why not now take a close read about active strategies for learning purposes. There is no need to use real money at the start, can just "paper trial"
 

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That stat is based on a AVERAGE underperformance for the <95%.
If I skew the statistics for comparision say from the 70-95% and upper 5%, the findings would be drastically altered I believe.

Also, may I ask what were the assumptions that Bernstein used to arrive at that conclusion of +1%pa on average potential versus -2% to -3% on average potential (The Intellegent Asset Allocator?)

Hence stats given has to be thought at one level deeper beyond the obvious.

I have no idea on what you refer to as average underperformance. A fund either underperform the benchmark or it does not. The study is an analysis of X funds over Y years and found that about 95% of funds underperform the benchmark. So could you please explain what you are talking about?

I don't have Bernstein's book with anymore, it was a borrowed copy from the library. I think that data was from his latest book.
 

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I think this evidently proves my point about your inclinations and limitations of lack of exposure.

Since you are so versed in the strengths of passive investing, why not now take a close read about active strategies for learning purposes. There is no need to use real money at the start, can just "paper trial"

I, like the rest of many retail investors have better things to do than to DIY research in active strategies that are unproven to work.

You on the other claim to be a finance professional and yet you cannot identify your supposed strategy that consistent outperforms.
 

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I show you arguments from the other side to illustrate the different schools of thought, different methods that have been employed by different people to beat the passive method.

Which is your opinion backed up by no facts.

Obviously there is no formula for replication because the investment world is constantly evolving, reaction or pre-action has to be according to the evolution (which is why its called active for a reason) which is obviously not for the average joe. You are asking for the impossible and you know that.

Which means that your alleged method is unverifiable and unfalsifiable. In other words, you have no method at all.

What I have maintained is that active investing is a time-consuming and continual event that does have its potential for better rewards.

It is a time consuming method I agree. Potential for better rewards? Possibly... but UNLIKELY.

My point from the very beginning was NOT ABOUT WHETHER ACTIVE OR PASSIVE WAS BETTER. IT WAS ABOUT PASSIVE AS BEING THE BEST METHOD IS A HALF-TRUTH OR HALF-LIE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

Passive method is the best method out there for most people. And up till know you have yet to refute this point with sufficient evidence.
 

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The random walk hypothesis, considered the bedrock of financial theory and modeling, is challenged by the authors. They show that the financial markets do contain a certain degree of predictability, and they illustrate this by both analyzing empirical data and with the development of various mathematical formalisms.

They conclude from their results that the random walk model is not consistent with the behavior of weekly returns. Interestingly, they find large (negative) autocorrelations in security prices. They do not conclude though that all financial models based on the random walk hypothesis are invalid, but rather they use the specification test to study various stochastic price processes.

Since volatilities do change over time, the authors are careful not to reject the random walk hypothesis because of heteroskedasticity; the test they do employ takes into account changing variances. They also discuss the possible role that non-trading practices may have on their conclusions.

The authors used Monte Carlo simulations to study the variance ratio, Dickey-Fuller, and Box-Pierce tests under Gaussian null and heteroskedastic null hypotheses.

They also consider the power of the variance ratio test against an AR(1) process, AR(1) + random walk, and an integrated AR(1) process models of asset price behavior and they conclude that the variance ratio test is a viable tool to use for inference in financial modeling.

There is also focus on contrarian investment strategiesand concluded, interestingly, that a large portion of contrarian profits cannot be attributed to overreaction.

The most interesting chapter in the book is on long-range dependence in stock market prices, for it is here that many alternative statistical techniques have been devised to study this dependence.

The R/S statistic is modified and then used by the authors to test for long-range dependence in daily and monthly stock return indices. They that after correcting for short-range dependencies, there is no evidence of long-range dependence in this data.

They discuss deviations from the capital asset pricing model effectively the two models which attempt to explain these differences, based on risk-based and nonrisk-based alternatives. These two models are proposed as alternatives to the multifactor asset pricing models that have been employed to explain deviations from CAPM.

Data-snooping biases are investigated using the theory of induced order statistics and tested with Monte Carlo simulations. It is shown of the impact of data-snooping biases in asset pricing models, and how these biases arise from tendencies to focus on anomalous data.

It is interesting to note that by using tick-by-tick feeds of market-transaction data, can detect regularities in stock prices that would have been invisible in the 1990s, in my opinion the situation would be even more vastly advanced now given the advancement of technology since then I suspect.

There is a maximize predictability in asset returns. They use a model of time-varying premiums to estimate what they call the maximally predictable portfolio, with this model using an out-of-sample rolling estimation technique to avoid data snooping problems. Monte Carlo simulations are again used to validate the results of the models.

Emphasizing the discreteness of real price data, the irregular timing of transaction prices, and the conditional nature of price changes, the authors addresses these issues using what they call an ordered probit model. They conclude with their model and its comparison with empirical data, that discreteness is important in financial modeling.

The authors also study transaction data on the S&P 500 futures contracts with the goal of studying price behavior in relation to arbitrageur strategies. They conclude that on the average, mispricing increases with time to maturity and is path-dependent.

I think you just lifted this entire chunk from the back of the book, nice try. Based on the information you provided, it appears that the authors have provided a reasonable amount of evidence to suggest that there may be predictable and exploitable patterns (assuming I take it at face value without questioning).

However, can you point out a single method which the authors had found that could be used to consistently outperform the market? What was the probability of outperformance? And how much was the outperformance after fees and expenses?

EDIT: Finally I found another term on wiki "Adaptive market hypothesis" a proposed alternative for the EMH, and I believe this is what you have been harping on since it heavily influenced by behavioral economics. It seems that I am always doing your homework. Why is it I have to figure out exactly what you are talking about and you can never give a straight answer? Probably because you are just trying to smoke again as usual!!!

In any case, none of the points you raised invalidates any of my prior arguments. As I said, real-life studies have shown that only 5% of active managers can outperform. Studies using a hypothetical model that EMH is wrong show that you need to be in the top 30% in order to achieve outperformance. So using this range as an upper and lower limit, and bearing in mind that an investor has a number of funds in a portfolio, the probability of an outperforming portfolio over time is still dismally small regardless of whether the market is completely efficient or totally inefficient. This is probably the 3RD time I am saying this. Obviously some people cannot get it into their thick skull. You can possibly make a case if you know of an active method that can consistently be in the portion that outperforms... however I know of none. Do you???
 
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I have done a bit more digging on this Adaptive Market Hypothesis, touted as replacement for the Efficient Market Hypothesis. The first paper was published in 2004. It has only received 4 citations and only 1 paper in 2009 was directly relevant to it, albeit supporting the AMH model. In other words, hardly anyone reads it. It's not a very impressive track record.

I have skimmed through the original 2005 paper and it presents an alternative model to EMH using some aspects from behaviorial economics. However, he does not make any bold claims that his active management strategy will outperform passive methods. In fact he doesn't propose any active strategy for investing. Reading his abstract:

I begin with a brief review of the classical version of the EMH, and then summarize the most signicant criticisms levelled against it by psychologists and behavioral economists. I argue that the sources of this controversy can be traced back to the very origins of modern neoclassical economics, and by considering the sociology and cultural history of modernance, we can develop a better understanding of how we arrived at the current crossroads or the EMH. I then turn to the AMH, in which the dynamics of evolution|competition,mutation, reproduction, and natural selection|determine the effciency of markets and the waxing and waning of nancial institutions, investment products, and ultimately, institutional and individual fortunes. I conclude by considering some surprisingly sharp implications of the AMH for portfolio management, and by outlining an ambitious research agenda for formalizing several aspects of this rather unorthodox alternative to the classical EMH.

In other words, the author himself has admitted this is a very new model and he is going to spend the next 5-10 years developing and refining it. What this means for the retail investor, is that we are years away before a viable active management strategy that uses the anomalies identified by AMH can be launched (assuming that it ever gets acceptance by the wider community). The most open-minded option would be to wait for another 5-10 years to see if it develops into something more concrete. For people like me, I would not be bothered. If it becomes big, I would hear about it... and then maybe then I will read up more.

In another form of his paper:
http://web.mit.edu/alo/www/Papers/JIC2005_Final.pdf

I'll pick up some illustrative quotes from the author:
1) Although the AMH is still primarily a qualitative and descriptive framework, it yields some surprisingly concrete insights when applied to practical settings such as asset allocation, risk management, and investment consulting. - This means that we cannot use the AMH model yet to develop an active strategy that will consistently outperform. What AMH provides is an alternative to the EMH... and that's it.
2) The new paradigm of the AMH is still in its infancy and certainly requires a great deal more research before it becomes a viable alternative to the EMH. - Actually, the AMH model still needs to be worked on before it can replace the EMH.

So in conclusion, ASSUMING that the AMH model is valid, it only provides that there may be a way to systematically take advantage of the inefficiencies of the market in a consistent manner that would allow us to outperform passive index investing. However, given that the AMH model is just a proposal and not rigorously proven... and even if it was it is still a qualitative and not quantitative model... there is no way in the near future to take advantage of this finding for the benefit of investors.

GET IT??? In other words your behavioral finance active management strategy does not exist yet. Check back in another 10+ years and maybe things will be different...
 
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I actually went through all 36 pages of this thread. And it went from a newbies guide which I could understand to some pretty hardcore and complex arguments!

Anyway, just to bring it back down a notch and keep things fresh for the noobs here (like myself). I have a question.

Suppose you have been quoted an insurance premium with loading. Obviously, you're not happy about it and you want to "shop" around to see if you can get a better deal.

What's the best way to approach this? The obvious method is to simply carpet bomb all the insurers and see what's the best deal you get. But it seems to me this will take a lot of time because of the underwriting process and paperwork needed before the insurer can even give you a quote.

Also, will the loaded premium quotation be a blackmark which other insurers will hold against you?

Thanks
 
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What's the best way to approach this? The obvious method is to simply carpet bomb all the insurers and see what's the best deal you get. But it seems to me this will take a lot of time because of the underwriting process and paperwork needed before the insurer can even give you a quote.

Also, will the loaded premium quotation be a blackmark which other insurers will hold against you?

Thanks

Talk to a financial advisor that comes from an IFA firm, or an insurance broker. Let him/her do all the dirty work for you, so that you don't need to meet up with multiple insurance agents.
 

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Talk to a financial advisor that comes from an IFA firm, or an insurance broker. Let him/her do all the dirty work for you, so that you don't need to meet up with multiple insurance agents.

Or you can create a thread and ask for quotes based on your info and condition. There will definitely be quotes coming in! Reject all pms to save yourself the trouble of replying. You can then decide which quote or plan features you prefer and proceed. Now that's independent! Instead of ending up listening to a tied agent or independent agent.
 

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I have done a bit more digging on this Adaptive Market Hypothesis, touted as replacement for the Efficient Market Hypothesis. The first paper was published in 2004. It has only received 4 citations and only 1 paper in 2009 was directly relevant to it, albeit supporting the AMH model. In other words, hardly anyone reads it. It's not a very impressive track record.

I have skimmed through the original 2005 paper and it presents an alternative model to EMH using some aspects from behaviorial economics. However, he does not make any bold claims that his active management strategy will outperform passive methods. In fact he doesn't propose any active strategy for investing. Reading his abstract:

I begin with a brief review of the classical version of the EMH, and then summarize the most signicant criticisms levelled against it by psychologists and behavioral economists. I argue that the sources of this controversy can be traced back to the very origins of modern neoclassical economics, and by considering the sociology and cultural history of modernance, we can develop a better understanding of how we arrived at the current crossroads or the EMH. I then turn to the AMH, in which the dynamics of evolution|competition,mutation, reproduction, and natural selection|determine the effciency of markets and the waxing and waning of nancial institutions, investment products, and ultimately, institutional and individual fortunes. I conclude by considering some surprisingly sharp implications of the AMH for portfolio management, and by outlining an ambitious research agenda for formalizing several aspects of this rather unorthodox alternative to the classical EMH.

In other words, the author himself has admitted this is a very new model and he is going to spend the next 5-10 years developing and refining it. What this means for the retail investor, is that we are years away before a viable active management strategy that uses the anomalies identified by AMH can be launched (assuming that it ever gets acceptance by the wider community). The most open-minded option would be to wait for another 5-10 years to see if it develops into something more concrete. For people like me, I would not be bothered. If it becomes big, I would hear about it... and then maybe then I will read up more.
In another form of his paper:
http://web.mit.edu/alo/www/Papers/JIC2005_Final.pdf

I'll pick up some illustrative quotes from the author:
1) Although the AMH is still primarily a qualitative and descriptive framework, it yields some surprisingly concrete insights when applied to practical settings such as asset allocation, risk management, and investment consulting. - This means that we cannot use the AMH model yet to develop an active strategy that will consistently outperform. What AMH provides is an alternative to the EMH... and that's it.
2) The new paradigm of the AMH is still in its infancy and certainly requires a great deal more research before it becomes a viable alternative to the EMH. - Actually, the AMH model still needs to be worked on before it can replace the EMH.

So in conclusion, ASSUMING that the AMH model is valid, it only provides that there may be a way to systematically take advantage of the inefficiencies of the market in a consistent manner that would allow us to outperform passive index investing. However, given that the AMH model is just a proposal and not rigorously proven... and even if it was it is still a qualitative and not quantitative model... there is no way in the near future to take advantage of this finding for the benefit of investors.

GET IT??? In other words your behavioral finance active management strategy does not exist yet. Check back in another 10+ years and maybe things will be different...

Just because there is NO academic paper on a methodology that can be easily replicated means it does not exist? Read at what you write, does it even make logic sense.

It merely illustrates my point perfectly where you are TOTALLY ENTRENCHED in passive mode and is crippled to MOVE OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE.

You are happy with your passive methods go ahead, but stop your bull**** that passive methodology is better than active. Both ways have their merits.

End of story, simple as that.
 

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Or you can create a thread and ask for quotes based on your info and condition. There will definitely be quotes coming in! Reject all pms to save yourself the trouble of replying. You can then decide which quote or plan features you prefer and proceed. Now that's independent! Instead of ending up listening to a tied agent or independent agent.

It's amusing how tied agents try to work around the severe limitations of their platform. It's like a drug company salesman telling a patient to self-medicate instead of seeing a doctor because he knows he's unable to properly treat the patient while the doctor can.
 

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It's amusing how tied agents try to work around the severe limitations of their platform. It's like a drug company salesman telling a patient to self-medicate instead of seeing a doctor because he knows he's unable to properly treat the patient while the doctor can.

Nah, in this case the patient actually knows his own condition. The patient is merely looking for the medication. What's wrong with the patient looking for other quotes for medicine that has similar effects on his own? Once he find a most suitable cost for the medicine, the patient can then buy the medicine on his own.

In fact, this way the patient can cut all consultation to doctors and go direct to buy the medicine himself. You must know that you can actually buy the same medication within a limited period without seeing the doctor after you have seen the doctor.
 
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