November 2017 SBF

[The Poor One]

Hey guys, sorry but can i check what happens if second timer has a better number than first timer? Will they still select flat first or first timer will go first?

They go by Q no regardless of first timer or second timer

 

[The Poor One]

But the que number before me is it everyone is first timer? Bcuz 95% flat is allocated for first timer right

Most likely alot of first timer in front of u. Most probably there is only 1 or 2 second timer in front of u.

 

[zidmosby]

They go by Q no regardless of first timer or second timer

I was thinking about that too. But I was thinking if they do go by queue number, that means the balloting rule on second timers only allocated 5% of the units will not be true right? If they have a better queue, that means that they will have access to all units instead of balance 5% after FTs selection is completed?

 

[sapherix]

I was thinking about that too. But I was thinking if they do go by queue number, that means the balloting rule on second timers only allocated 5% of the units will not be true right? If they have a better queue, that means that they will have access to all units instead of balance 5% after FTs selection is completed?

if im not wrong (just my guess and thinking) , this is how they do it :

Lets say qty of units is 100. 95 first timers will be shortlisted within the first 100 q.no while the remaining 5 will be 2nd timer. And that is how and why they say even 2nd timer is possible to get Q number 1.

The remaining applicants who were not shortlisted within the first 100 q number will be randomly ballots for up till 300% of flat supply. And once 2nd timer allocated amount of units are snapped up , their Q will be jumped or looks like it dropped (maybe tt also contributed to and explains why there was a times a huge spike in dropout rate)

just my 2cents.

 

[The Poor One]

if im not wrong (just my guess and thinking) , this is how they do it :

Lets say qty of units is 100. 95 first timers will be shortlisted within the first 100 q.no while the remaining 5 will be 2nd timer. And that is how and why they say even 2nd timer is possible to get Q number 1.

The remaining applicants who were not shortlisted within the first 100 q number will be randomly ballots for up till 300% of flat supply. And once 2nd timer allocated amount of units are snapped up , their Q will be jumped or looks like it dropped (maybe tt also contributed to and explains why there was a times a huge spike in dropout rate)

just my 2cents.

My thought was that if unit available is 100. 95 for first timer 5 unit for 2nd timer .

Then they randomly select 300 people out of all the application. 285 will be first timer, 15 will be second timer.

This 285+15 will then go thru the second round of random q no allocation. Where 95 first timer and 5 second timer will be allocated Q 1 to 100 . Then the remaining first timer and 2nd timer will be assigned to Q 101 to 300.

But maybe I m wrong. Hopefully someone from HDB can explain.

 

[Slinky85]

If I were to select a unit in a block that’s already built with ppl living in it, roughly how long later will I be issued with the key after unit selection?

 

[Apricot]

After 1 BTO and 4 SoBF applications as a first timer, I finally got a number within the units available. 87/191 4 Room Yishun. Hopefully there's decent high rise ones for me by the time its the selection day.

 

[sapherix]

anyway mine is 73 / 52 units , selection starts april .. i think within a mth of selection can know whether have units for me already right .. hate the wait and feb bto launch doesnt interest me

 

[benzene]

Awesome and congrats Benzene! That makes us immediate neighbours in a few years time. I’m sure that place is love at first sight for you.

I got a feeling it will be ready by end of this year or early next yr.
Block 79 is already very high up.

 

[zidmosby]

My thought was that if unit available is 100. 95 for first timer 5 unit for 2nd timer .

Then they randomly select 300 people out of all the application. 285 will be first timer, 15 will be second timer.

This 285+15 will then go thru the second round of random q no allocation. Where 95 first timer and 5 second timer will be allocated Q 1 to 100 . Then the remaining first timer and 2nd timer will be assigned to Q 101 to 300.

But maybe I m wrong. Hopefully someone from HDB can explain.

That is quite interesting to look at it, thanks @thepoorone and @sapherix.

I had gone for 2016 SBF and my number was very much out of the available units. Surprisingly got called for an appointment and I saw that the last served unit was 92 and bear in mind I was in the 500 range.

So, honestly don't know how this even works bcs I do not believe there is 408 drop outs or so right? I guess it just boils down to your luck. Some hit and win, some hit and miss.

 

[zidmosby]

anyway mine is 73 / 52 units , selection starts april .. i think within a mth of selection can know whether have units for me already right .. hate the wait and feb bto launch doesnt interest me

Actually now BTO quite appealing bcs most will be ready 1-2 years, almost the same as some SBF units. Maybe can consider la because playing this lottery game gets very exhausting at some point of time.

 

[sapherix]

That is quite interesting to look at it, thanks @thepoorone and @sapherix.

I had gone for 2016 SBF and my number was very much out of the available units. Surprisingly got called for an appointment and I saw that the last served unit was 92 and bear in mind I was in the 500 range.

So, honestly don't know how this even works bcs I do not believe there is 408 drop outs or so right? I guess it just boils down to your luck. Some hit and win, some hit and miss.

hi mind sharing which area was it but ya the dropout rate is unusually high

 

[Weeli85]

Is that anyway to expedite the selection of flat? 4 mths waiting is quite a long period

 

[cforcookie]

Omg if this is true, you are giving me (a last few queue number person) hope! Hahahaha

That is quite interesting to look at it, thanks @thepoorone and @sapherix.

I had gone for 2016 SBF and my number was very much out of the available units. Surprisingly got called for an appointment and I saw that the last served unit was 92 and bear in mind I was in the 500 range.

So, honestly don't know how this even works bcs I do not believe there is 408 drop outs or so right? I guess it just boils down to your luck. Some hit and win, some hit and miss.

 

[zidmosby]

Is that anyway to expedite the selection of flat? 4 mths waiting is quite a long period

Ummm.. Don't think you can change organisation planning? Just need to wait out whether you like or not lor, like the rest of us

 

[standing]

If I got a number that is out of range, will I be informed when the selection exercise for my area has ended?

If not like wait and wait don't know if still have chance or not

 

[Weeli85]

Ummm.. Don't think you can change organisation planning? Just need to wait out whether you like or not lor, like the rest of us

Funny is buying resale is only 2 mths to collect the key due to family with kid, but for SBF with kid cannot expedite.. tml try to call the officer see how they can help

 

[The Poor One]

If I got a number that is out of range, will I be informed when the selection exercise for my area has ended?

If not like wait and wait don't know if still have chance or not

yes, they will notify u if ethnic quota filled or not more flat available

 

[The Poor One]

That is quite interesting to look at it, thanks @thepoorone and @sapherix.

I had gone for 2016 SBF and my number was very much out of the available units. Surprisingly got called for an appointment and I saw that the last served unit was 92 and bear in mind I was in the 500 range.

So, honestly don't know how this even works bcs I do not believe there is 408 drop outs or so right? I guess it just boils down to your luck. Some hit and win, some hit and miss.

@zidmosby, could it be due to ethnic quota issue?

 

[zidmosby]

Funny is buying resale is only 2 mths to collect the key due to family with kid, but for SBF with kid cannot expedite.. tml try to call the officer see how they can help

The MCPS is to increase your chances of getting a number, but it does not help expedite HDB's process or lets you have priority in moving in. Of course if your number is good, you'll be one of the first few to select once they have started the appointment process and that helps you move in quicker if you choose the flat with ready keys.