NTU civil engineering vs mathematical science

[FappingKing]

Hello there, I'm finally going to ORD in 3 weeks time and will soon be going back to studies and currently I have accepted the engineering course from NTU (which i wish to major in Civil Engineering).

However recently I've just checked the IGP of last year's admission and discovered that my grades could actually got me into a course that interest me more than engineering which is mathematical science (slight regret i never bother to apply for anything last year).

Now i'm really wondering should i go ahead and try for mathematical science at ntu?

Civil engineering is the only field in engineering that interests me, but my main worry would be that my physics isnt that strong and i wonder would i suffer in civ eng. And on the other hand I've been quite good in math throughout my study years

Although this obviously makes choosing math sci the logical choice for me, i have other issues like the career prospect of math sci in singapore?

Is civil engineering "that" ft dominated like EEE,computer eng etc. ?

Any inputs and experiences would be gladly welcomed

 

[riicky]

Hi there,

From my point of view, if your goona be a civil engineer, i think it is worth while to work outside of singapore as you know the land area isnt big here, the projects might be lesser and companies might hire cheaper civil eng to do the job. Take your time to think about it, i think math sci is a better choice.

 

[FappingKing]

Hi there,

From my point of view, if your goona be a civil engineer, i think it is worth while to work outside of singapore as you know the land area isnt big here, the projects might be lesser and companies might hire cheaper civil eng to do the job. Take your time to think about it, i think math sci is a better choice.

One thing is i dont really know what does math sci do

Hmm thanks for the insights though

Up for more inputs please

 

[riicky]

One thing is i dont really know what does math sci do

Hmm thanks for the insights though

Up for more inputs please

Math sci, can be analytic & statistic for a company; to come out with formulas for data like graphs. This is a very specialise industry.

 

[Havok_ex]

Math sci, can be analytic & statistic for a company; to come out with formulas for data like graphs. This is a very specialise industry.

NTU mathematical science also has a biz analytics specialisation. You should check their curriculum to see if their specialisations is what you are interested in.

 

[Weaboo]

Ups for fapong

 

[FappingKing]

NTU mathematical science also has a biz analytics specialisation. You should check their curriculum to see if their specialisations is what you are interested in.

Alright will go and read up on what NTU offers

Ups for fapong

Thanks Weaboo

 

[Kyoji83]

I am still waiting for HWZers who are Math Graduates can share with me what are they working as that is related to their studies apart from Teachers & Tutors.

 

[FrostWurm]

I am still waiting for HWZers who are Math Graduates can share with me what are they working as that is related to their studies apart from Teachers & Tutors.

Oh look, it's the same guy again who keeps insisting how useless math degrees are...

 

[babykny]

I am still waiting for HWZers who are Math Graduates can share with me what are they working as that is related to their studies apart from Teachers & Tutors.

this is clearly a statement from one who doesn't understand statistics and probably, mathematics as well.

 

[Number_Theory123]

I am still waiting for HWZers who are Math Graduates can share with me what are they working as that is related to their studies apart from Teachers & Tutors.

I just can't help but laugh at this.

 

[FappingKing]

Oh look, it's the same guy again who keeps insisting how useless math degrees are...

this is clearly a statement from one who doesn't understand statistics and probably, mathematics as well.

I just can't help but laugh at this.

can elaborate more please ?

I really know nothing about what a math sci degree can do

 

[Havok_ex]

I can't believe the ignorance of some people. There are no philosophy factories, no sociology MNCs and no political science blogshops selling political science products. Hence, these graduates surely can never find a job either. The life you live is very narrow. What you see and what you experience is but a mere fraction of what goes on in the world. Math grads are at an even better position than the other majors i've mentioned above, yet they are still able to find jobs that are suitably linked to their degrees. What you see in the world is merely a build up of what the sciences have brought. Without the work of so-called 'useless' graduates from physics and math, none of you would even be able to type on a computer right now. Even everything ranging from defence like cryptography to business analytics to finance has its roots in mathematical sciences. Read up on The Economist december 2013 report on BlackRock. Then you'll know how important statistics and algorithms actually are to the financial markets.

 

[-Wanderer-]

Oh look, it's the same guy again who keeps insisting how useless math degrees are...

this is clearly a statement from one who doesn't understand statistics and probably, mathematics as well.

I just can't help but laugh at this.

I can't believe the ignorance of some people. There are no philosophy factories, no sociology MNCs and no political science blogshops selling political science products. Hence, these graduates surely can never find a job either. The life you live is very narrow. What you see and what you experience is but a mere fraction of what goes on in the world. Math grads are at an even better position than the other majors i've mentioned above, yet they are still able to find jobs that are suitably linked to their degrees. What you see in the world is merely a build up of what the sciences have brought. Without the work of so-called 'useless' graduates from physics and math, none of you would even be able to type on a computer right now. Even everything ranging from defence like cryptography to business analytics to finance has its roots in mathematical sciences. Read up on The Economist december 2013 report on BlackRock. Then you'll know how important statistics and algorithms actually are to the financial markets.

Why bother arguing with a person who thinks he is the HR of the whole world? His word is absolute and he chooses who he wants for the job. Our payroll and bonus is decided by him ok?

can elaborate more please ?

I really know nothing about what a math sci degree can do

Please refer to: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/degree-programs-courses-70/math-degree-nus-useful-4516539.html for more details

 

[Kyoji83]

Most of the Math Graduates do not work in the positions that HWZers have quoted. They work in jobs that only require a degree or downgraded to Diploma positions.

I have access to information that most of the HWZers do not have it which is the reason why I am sharing now. It is up to TS to make decision for his careers & higher education.

I can't believe the ignorance of some people. There are no philosophy factories, no sociology MNCs and no political science blogshops selling political science products. Hence, these graduates surely can never find a job either. The life you live is very narrow. What you see and what you experience is but a mere fraction of what goes on in the world. Math grads are at an even better position than the other majors i've mentioned above, yet they are still able to find jobs that are suitably linked to their degrees. What you see in the world is merely a build up of what the sciences have brought. Without the work of so-called 'useless' graduates from physics and math, none of you would even be able to type on a computer right now. Even everything ranging from defence like cryptography to business analytics to finance has its roots in mathematical sciences. Read up on The Economist december 2013 report on BlackRock. Then you'll know how important statistics and algorithms actually are to the financial markets.

Why bother arguing with a person who thinks he is the HR of the whole world? His word is absolute and he chooses who he wants for the job. Our payroll and bonus is decided by him ok?



Please refer to: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/degree-programs-courses-70/math-degree-nus-useful-4516539.html for more details

 

[Kyoji83]

Yes, I am the same guy who do understand my analyst report for Math Graduates when I am working in a HR position but do not understand where is the statistics for positions for Math Graduates that are quoted by HWZers.

This is as good as telling people that Nurse can do the same scope of work as a junior medical consultant. So can an ITE graduate do the same scope of work as a junior medical consultant, the answer is no. ITE graduate can only be Enrolled Nurse. In order to do the scope of work as a junior medical consultant, the nurse must be a Practice Nurse holding a Master Degree while a Registered Nurse (holding a Diploma or Degree) can only be an Assistant Practice Nurse. So what you are trained & what the market/bodies deem that you can do is another thing.

I just can't help but laugh at this.

this is clearly a statement from one who doesn't understand statistics and probably, mathematics as well.

Oh look, it's the same guy again who keeps insisting how useless math degrees are...

 

[-Wanderer-]

I have access to information that most of the HWZers do not have it which is the reason why I am sharing now.

No Information/Statistics, No Talk!

 

[nitokit]

It depends on your interest and how good you are.

The elite first class honors dean-listers in mathematical science can find jobs in the banks, in statutory boards, etc, while the rest are finding it hard to secure a related jobs.

As for civil engineer majors, due to the recent construction boom, it is relatively easy to find a construction job. As such, for the past few years, there is 100% full time employment for NTU civil engineering grads. However, if your interest is in consultation such as structural or geotech, then like maths degree, you need to be very good at it

 

[nitokit]

No Information/Statistics, No Talk!

Based on MOE graduation employment statistics, only 80+% of maths sci graduates found full time employment 6 months after graduation.....


So yup....with that degree, u can do a lot of high paying, prestigious jobs, but the amount of job openings for them is extremely limited as well

 

[nitokit]

Ultimately, it boils down to your passion and interest.

Zero interest = won't be able to excel and pull through 4 years.
Full of passion = most likely able to enjoy and excel and get your FCH

And if you don't know where your interest lies, then you can try look through course materials by asking your seniors, and decide which one you rather studies