Nus nursing

[Galaxy124]

Hi all. I flunked my o levels but managed to get a reasonably good gpa for nursing. Is there any hope for me to get into nus nursing? Min what can your o levels be to enter local uni?

 

[Havok_ex]

Hi all. I flunked my o levels but managed to get a reasonably good gpa for nursing. Is there any hope for me to get into nus nursing? Min what can your o levels be to enter local uni?

There's no minimum O-level. What's your GPA? O-level takes up only 20%. If your GPA is high enough it can compensate for your bad O-level results.

 

[patryn33]

have you seen the COP? what is reasonably good GPA? if you have GPA of 3.9 then having poor Os doesnt matter, however if its 3.5 then U better have options lined up
http://www.nus.edu.sg/oam/gradeprofile/sprogramme-igp.html

 

[cosycatus]

I don't understand you.

why waste 3 years at nus nursing if u can already be a registered nurse with a diploma

You can easily gain a part time degree from SIM ( via Sydney uni) at about 24K , which is about same cost as 3 years at NUS.
But you gain 3 years of experience ( very important) and 100K in earnings, and a degree as compared to the NUS graduate with ZERO experience and is 25K in debt.

And NUS not prestigious la, end of the day, no one cares degree from which uni u have.
If you are good in your work, you will move up even though u dont have a "local" ivy league degree. If u suck, even if u have a nursing degree from NUS, you still cant move up.


thank me later.

 

[Kyoji83]

1) A RN with Dip start working with salary of SN1 & A RN with Bach Degree start working with salary of SSN1. So study a degree does matter in term of salary.

2) Depend on Organization, some do not recognize D/L degree like SIM-Sydney Uni.

3) In order to become APN, one of the requirement is to have a Bach Degree in order to get into their Master Degree course.

I don't understand you.

why waste 3 years at nus nursing if u can already be a registered nurse with a diploma

You can easily gain a part time degree from SIM ( via Sydney uni) at about 24K , which is about same cost as 3 years at NUS.
But you gain 3 years of experience ( very important) and 100K in earnings, and a degree as compared to the NUS graduate with ZERO experience and is 25K in debt.

And NUS not prestigious la, end of the day, no one cares degree from which uni u have.
If you are good in your work, you will move up even though u dont have a "local" ivy league degree. If u suck, even if u have a nursing degree from NUS, you still cant move up.


thank me later.

 

[hmphgg]

Hi all. I flunked my o levels but managed to get a reasonably good gpa for nursing. Is there any hope for me to get into nus nursing? Min what can your o levels be to enter local uni?

Work hard at your hospital. Build a name for yourself then get company to sponsor your education. Private dig would make more sense here. Just get it from university of Adelaide at Ngee Ann-Adelaide. Alternatively, there's also curtin. Choice is yours really

 

[patryn33]

A few friends in nursing line, not come across any hospital that do not recognize DL nursing. Didn't find them discriminating degree yet

 

[cosycatus]

1) A RN with Dip start working with salary of SN1 & A RN with Bach Degree start working with salary of SSN1. So study a degree does matter in term of salary.

2) Depend on Organization, some do not recognize D/L degree like SIM-Sydney Uni.

3) In order to become APN, one of the requirement is to have a Bach Degree in order to get into their Master Degree course.

1. harlow. Can use a bit of brain first?
TS has a diploma in nursing. I am suggesting she do a part time DL , which she will finish earlier than a NUS one and still end up with degree salary. Plus experience and having earned some $$. NUS nursing is good if you dont have a nursing diploma, eg from A levels or did an irrelevant poly diploma.

2. Which organisation in SG dont recognize? Maybe if u are applying for post-graduate study , they will be a bit choosy, but working wise, list down for me which one dont recognised a DL nursing done after a nursing diploma. With a diploma, she is a registered nurse already. A degree also let her be a registered nurse. Professionally, she is at the same level.

3. Ya, thanks for the REALLY brilliant insight. I AM NOT ASKING HER TO FORGOT A DEGREE. I AM ASKING HER TO DO A PART TIME OR DL degree. And APN, fyi, is not you got degree, u can do. Your boss must recommend u. If you boss recommend, it doesn't matter if u are a NUS degree holder or curtin holder.

again, use a bit of brains pls.

 

[intime]

Hi all. I flunked my o levels but managed to get a reasonably good gpa for nursing. Is there any hope for me to get into nus nursing? Min what can your o levels be to enter local uni?

I assume you have not graduate from poly, if you have not been talking to your lecturers and building a strong relationship with them, it is best to do so now. Seek their opinions. And obtain a recommendation from them to strengthen your chances.

If you can enter a singapore university's nursing course like NUS, go ahead.
There is a high chance that SIT will be churning out their own Nursing degree as UOM is leaving SIT.

Singapore universities will be able to provide you with a more holistic education with a wide range of opportunities, and open your doors for further education or transfer to other better professions in healthcare through post grade studies.

Do check out Nursing Board for accredited programmes,
http://www.healthprofessionals.gov....programmes/accredited_nursing_programmes.html

 

[Kyoji83]

Long story short, I almost end up as RN & I have friends working as nurse too. It really depend on organizations. They do compare with their friends from other organizations & PEI after graduating with a degree in term of salary increment & promotion. Their finding are some organizations don't recognize DL Degree expect SIT-UOM which we suspect it is due to government related programme.

A few friends in nursing line, not come across any hospital that do not recognize DL nursing. Didn't find them discriminating degree yet

 

[Kyoji83]

1. harlow. Can use a bit of brain first? Like what you quoted in your point 2,

2. Which organisation in SG dont recognize? Maybe if u are applying for post-graduate study , they will be a bit choosy

This is one of the reason why I recommended her to go NUS.


2. Like what I quoted in my point 1,

1) A RN with Dip start working with salary of SN1 & A RN with Bach Degree start working with salary of SSN1. So study a degree does matter in term of salary.

TS just have to slowly clock her working experience to be promoted to SSN1 to earn the salary of SSN1 if her DL Degree is not recognize or she know where to job hopped to get her DL Degree recognized to earn higher salary.


3. If she is getting a DL Degree, she will miss out the opportunity to be sent to Advanced Diploma & have to wait for many years later compare to other who are able to get into the course after 2 to 3 years of becoming a RN. This will push back her Advanced Diploma post-graduation experiences to get into Master degree course. Apart from that, she must be in a good relationship with her sister or work colleague to be able to attend her part time DL Bachelor Degree class if she is required to work shift.

again, use a bit of brains pls.

1. harlow. Can use a bit of brain first?
TS has a diploma in nursing. I am suggesting she do a part time DL , which she will finish earlier than a NUS one and still end up with degree salary. Plus experience and having earned some $$. NUS nursing is good if you dont have a nursing diploma, eg from A levels or did an irrelevant poly diploma.

2. Which organisation in SG dont recognize? Maybe if u are applying for post-graduate study , they will be a bit choosy, but working wise, list down for me which one dont recognised a DL nursing done after a nursing diploma. With a diploma, she is a registered nurse already. A degree also let her be a registered nurse. Professionally, she is at the same level.

3. Ya, thanks for the REALLY brilliant insight. I AM NOT ASKING HER TO FORGOT A DEGREE. I AM ASKING HER TO DO A PART TIME OR DL degree. And APN, fyi, is not you got degree, u can do. Your boss must recommend u. If you boss recommend, it doesn't matter if u are a NUS degree holder or curtin holder.

again, use a bit of brains pls.

 

[cosycatus]

1. harlow. Can use a bit of brain first? Like what you quoted in your point 2,



This is one of the reason why I recommended her to go NUS.


2. Like what I quoted in my point 1,



TS just have to slowly clock her working experience to be promoted to SSN1 to earn the salary of SSN1 if her DL Degree is not recognize or she know where to job hopped to get her DL Degree recognized to earn higher salary.


3. If she is getting a DL Degree, she will miss out the opportunity to be sent to Advanced Diploma & have to wait for many years later compare to other who are able to get into the course after 2 to 3 years of becoming a RN. This will push back her Advanced Diploma post-graduation experiences to get into Master degree course. Apart from that, she must be in a good relationship with her sister or work colleague to be able to attend her part time DL Bachelor Degree class if she is required to work shift.

again, use a bit of brains pls.

Sibei jialat.

You dont know anything still want to talk so much. I asked u to use your brain so as to save yourself a bit of embarrassment....Smart can already, dont act smart pls.

let me simplify it for you

1. http://www.healthprofessionals.gov...._programmes/post_registration_programmes.html

The SIM ( sydney) program and many more in the link is accredited and recognized as a nursing degree in SG. They exist to allowed for diploma registered nurses to gain a " piece of paper" nicely worded as professional development.
A NUS nursing degree and these DL/part time for all intents and purpose are the same for career prospects, salary , grade and professional post graduate studies ( eg, Masters for APN, Ph.D).
Many of your senior / managerial nurses dont have a degree from NUS; they have no reason to look down on a non-nus degree holder. Furthermore, no one really cares where your degree is from anyway..

all your point about advanced diploma etc, not recognized is moot because, if u had bothered to do a search, a lot of them are all accredited. Hence, me telling u to use a bit of brains first instead of saying " some institution don't recognised DL....". Indeed, not ALL DL is recognized, but surely no one will go take an unaccredited one when so many accredited one exist rite? The one i am talking about is accredited, btw


2. Hence my advice to TS to avoid NUS nursing. She is already ( or will be) a registered nurse with her diploma. There is no need for her to get a NUS degree at all to practice as a nurse.
There is a difference in pay between a dip and degree and she can overcome that with a part time/dl as i am suggesting. A part time lets her

a. get 3 years of experience
b. earn $$
c. finish faster than 3 years
However, u look at it, she will be better off experience wise, and financially at the end of 3 years doing a part-time nursing rather than a NUS degree.

doing a NUS degree after a nursing diploma almost make no sense unless she gian a NUS degree ( stupid i say) or wants to chill for another 3 years. "chill" is also debatable, because she has to re-learn all her diploma stuff and tested at a degree level.
These part time/DL was designed for diploma registered nurses who are usually working, not your other diploma / A level holders. Shift work is not a problem at all.

The only reason NUS nursing was created was for A level graduate/ other diploma holder to switch in to nursing and possibly to increase the " prestige" of nursing as a profession.


3. I said almost nothing because, in selected post-graduate studies, a NUS degree is indeed more recognised. These being , for eg, NUS-DUKE medical school or research, both of which, given that TS didn't do very well in O level, probably didn't have an inclination for. So far, only 1 NUS nursing grad had made it into NUS duke. So u are telling me u are recommending her to go to NUS because u think she is doctor material or researcher material?

 

[Kyoji83]

Majorly of DL nursing Degree are accredited one but not all organizations will give their staff promotion & salary increment after they graduate with a degree.

As for the rest of your comment, it is good for TS to decided herself if she wish to chose your advice or mine.

What make you think I don't know anything in real life? If you work in healthcare industry, my wife or friends may even mentor you before in real life. Please save yourself a bit of embarrassment & be humble. Want to debate, please come back if you are NO1 & above grade. Smart can already, dont act smart pls.

Sibei jialat.

You dont know anything still want to talk so much. I asked u to use your brain so as to save yourself a bit of embarrassment....Smart can already, dont act smart pls.

let me simplify it for you

1. http://www.healthprofessionals.gov...._programmes/post_registration_programmes.html

The SIM ( sydney) program and many more in the link is accredited and recognized as a nursing degree in SG. They exist to allowed for diploma registered nurses to gain a " piece of paper" nicely worded as professional development.
A NUS nursing degree and these DL/part time for all intents and purpose are the same for career prospects, salary , grade and professional post graduate studies ( eg, Masters for APN, Ph.D).
Many of your senior / managerial nurses dont have a degree from NUS; they have no reason to look down on a non-nus degree holder. Furthermore, no one really cares where your degree is from anyway..

all your point about advanced diploma etc, not recognized is moot because, if u had bothered to do a search, a lot of them are all accredited. Hence, me telling u to use a bit of brains first instead of saying " some institution don't recognised DL....". Indeed, not ALL DL is recognized, but surely no one will go take an unaccredited one when so many accredited one exist rite? The one i am talking about is accredited, btw


2. Hence my advice to TS to avoid NUS nursing. She is already ( or will be) a registered nurse with her diploma. There is no need for her to get a NUS degree at all to practice as a nurse.
There is a difference in pay between a dip and degree and she can overcome that with a part time/dl as i am suggesting. A part time lets her

a. get 3 years of experience
b. earn $$
c. finish faster than 3 years
However, u look at it, she will be better off experience wise, and financially at the end of 3 years doing a part-time nursing rather than a NUS degree.

doing a NUS degree after a nursing diploma almost make no sense unless she gian a NUS degree ( stupid i say) or wants to chill for another 3 years. "chill" is also debatable, because she has to re-learn all her diploma stuff and tested at a degree level.
These part time/DL was designed for diploma registered nurses who are usually working, not your other diploma / A level holders. Shift work is not a problem at all.

The only reason NUS nursing was created was for A level graduate/ other diploma holder to switch in to nursing and possibly to increase the " prestige" of nursing as a profession.


3. I said almost nothing because, in selected post-graduate studies, a NUS degree is indeed more recognised. These being , for eg, NUS-DUKE medical school or research, both of which, given that TS didn't do very well in O level, probably didn't have an inclination for. So far, only 1 NUS nursing grad had made it into NUS duke. So u are telling me u are recommending her to go to NUS because u think she is doctor material or researcher material?

 

[patryn33]

What make you think I don't know anything in real life? If you work in healthcare industry, my wife or friends may even mentor you before in real life. Please save yourself a bit of embarrassment & be humble. Want to debate, please come back if you are NO1 & above grade. Smart can already, dont act smart pls.

Since your wife and friends in the industry can give examples of organization not giving $$ for having degree etc do indicate their degree etc.

TS also MIA today but it maybe useful for others.