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Hi guys I am interested in Chemistry and I got accepted in NUS Pharmacy. Can any seniors tell me what the culture and environment in NUS Pharmacy is like? Also what is the course like in general. Any comment will be greatly appreciated!!!
 

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Expectations are real simple. Just hope tp be able to get my degree and hope to meet nice ppl with whom i can make friends with

Its a course where the cohort is very small, of ~200 people. It is a very competitive and academically demanding course that has classes from 8-6pm every day, with at least 3-6hrs of labwork each week. Your classmates are also very good academically thus creating that askewed bell-curve that everyone will complain of.

In terms of your interest in chemistry, this course deals a lot of organic chemistry which builds up to experimental design exposing you to the academia aspect of this course. (Do note, the organic chemistry you will be learning is on another level from what you learn in JC).

On the other hand, it also exposes you to biological aspects such as anatomy/physiology, pathology as well as primarily focused on pharmacology along with clinical skills such as patient consultation/drugs formulation and creation.

I feel that the course exposes you to various aspects of your career as well as various opportunities that cannot be experienced by others in different courses. (Creating cough syrup mixture in year 1 is something not anyone can do :))

Modules are selected for you except for "GER modules" which are like electives where u can choose and fit into the filled timetable.

However, because of the small size, you will know almost everyone in the cohort and it is a very tightly-knitted community. Do sign up for FOC in your year of matriculation as it is where most cliques are usually formed!

If you have any other questions feel free to ask :)
 

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I feel that the course exposes you to various aspects of your career as well as various opportunities that cannot be experienced by others in different courses. (Creating cough syrup mixture in year 1 is something not anyone can do :))

I hope you are kidding

The only "advantage" this degree confers you is the ability to work in a hospital or retail as a pharmacist. Which is a pretty shitty career for a straight As student. You will soon be looking to move out to other roles after a few years. Employment after grad isn't 100% anymore and you will face up against Malaysian and Pinoys fighting for your job for lower pay

Other than that, your pharm degree is pretty much just like any other general degree, except you will have a much harder time scoring good grades with a higher workload and a far tougher bell curve

Friendswise, most classmates will be your typical nerdy mugger types. You can make friends yes, but don't expect to be meeting any cool and fun loving people

And machines make cough syrups now, no human is required
 
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I hope you are kidding

The only "advantage" this degree confers you is the ability to work in a hospital or retail as a pharmacist. Which is a pretty shitty career for a straight As student. You will soon be looking to move out to other roles after a few years. Employment after grad isn't 100% anymore and you will face up against Malaysian and Pinoys fighting for your job for lower pay

Other than that, your pharm degree is pretty much just like any other general degree, except you will have a much harder time scoring good grades with a higher workload and a far tougher bell curve

Friendswise, most classmates will be your typical nerdy mugger types. You can make friends yes, but don't expect to be meeting any cool and fun loving people

And machines make cough syrups now, no human is required


I respect your views however, do let me address some points that you have brought up.

1) FYI, they do require pharmacists to compound medicine and the skill is learnt through the module that allows you to make cough syrup hence I brought up that point. Go to KK Hospital, they have an extensive amount of syrups because they compound the syrups using drugs which comes in pill form, and are difficult for children to swallow. There is still a need for compounding. Some drugs are only available in pill form which may not be suitable for various patients. If I were to touch on the various needs for compounding, my post will be super long but if interested, oncology is another area which compounding skills are a must for pharmacists who specialize in oncology.
This point shows me how much you know about the profession.

2) Employment rate
Yes, it isn't 100% anymore but job security is always there. It is still ~99.1%, so much better than various other degrees. Science bachelor holders = 84.3%. Our numbers are smaller as a cohort thus that 1% usually mean 1 or 2 people are unable to find a job. The only 2 degrees that beat us in terms of employment rate are medical students and dental students. Yes, even Lawyers have a lower employment rate. :)
Sources: MOE graduate employment survey 2016 (I do not have enough post to post links but you can google this^)

3) Salary-wise
Only 8 courses beat us in our basic starting pay,$3500, if your main focus is on the money.
(Sources: Similar to point 2)

4) Competition with Filipino/Malaysian
Singapore Pharmaceutical Society only recognizes 1 Malaysian university and 0 Filipino University. Those Malaysians and Filipinos you may have seen as a pharmacist can either have studied in NUS thus similar competition OR they are pharmacy technicians who are NOT pharmacists however they are equally important in the healthcare industry where their employment rate is independent of ours. Thus, there are literally no Malaysians and Filipinos like you have mentioned, except those who studied in NUS, vying for our jobs.
(Source: Singapore Pharmaceutical Society)

5) "General degree"
Be mindful of this term. The Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy)(Hons) degree is highly specialized and NOT a general degree. The course gives you both breadth and depth associated to being a pharmacist as well as allowing you to explore various other fields that we may go into.

6) Moving on from Hospital
Yes many pharmacists do move on to other sectors based on their interests and there are many fields that a pharmacists can go into. Regulatory, Sales, Research, Academia, Clinical, Specialising etc... This shows how versatile this specialized degree is. However, a degree doesn't guarantee you a high salary job. It is what you do AFTER having a degree that matters.

7) Bell curve
Yes, like I have mentioned, it is an academically demanding course with many straight A students as your classmates.

8) Types of classmates
There are a lot of various classmates that you might get. You might be surprised. Just because the course is academically demanding, doesn't mean everyone is a nerd. It doesn't work that way anymore in university, it is how you study.

To sum it up, your comments about the course are very superficial and incorrect and I hope I rectified any misunderstandings caused. And no, I am not kidding. :)

Cheers.
 
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Hi guys I am interested in Chemistry and I got accepted in NUS Pharmacy. Can any seniors tell me what the culture and environment in NUS Pharmacy is like? Also what is the course like in general. Any comment will be greatly appreciated!!!
Hi! I'm curious how come you are accepted so early? I havent even apply sia
 

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can i also check what is the lowest grade to get into pharm like? thank u!

Pharmacy should be decreasing their intake of undergrads to avoid oversupply of pharmacists. 87.5 would be the minimum score for entry however this could change as this is reported based on last year's admission. Anything below 87.5 would have to go through an interview.
 

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I respect your views however, do let me address some points that you have brought up.

1) FYI, they do require pharmacists to compound medicine and the skill is learnt through the module that allows you to make cough syrup hence I brought up that point. Go to KK Hospital, they have an extensive amount of syrups because they compound the syrups using drugs which comes in pill form, and are difficult for children to swallow. There is still a need for compounding. Some drugs are only available in pill form which may not be suitable for various patients. If I were to touch on the various needs for compounding, my post will be super long but if interested, oncology is another area which compounding skills are a must for pharmacists who specialize in oncology.
This point shows me how much you know about the profession.

2) Employment rate
Yes, it isn't 100% anymore but job security is always there. It is still ~99.1%, so much better than various other degrees. Science bachelor holders = 84.3%. Our numbers are smaller as a cohort thus that 1% usually mean 1 or 2 people are unable to find a job. The only 2 degrees that beat us in terms of employment rate are medical students and dental students. Yes, even Lawyers have a lower employment rate. :)
Sources: MOE graduate employment survey 2016 (I do not have enough post to post links but you can google this^)

3) Salary-wise
Only 8 courses beat us in our basic starting pay,$3500, if your main focus is on the money.
(Sources: Similar to point 2)

4) Competition with Filipino/Malaysian
Singapore Pharmaceutical Society only recognizes 1 Malaysian university and 0 Filipino University. Those Malaysians and Filipinos you may have seen as a pharmacist can either have studied in NUS thus similar competition OR they are pharmacy technicians who are NOT pharmacists however they are equally important in the healthcare industry where their employment rate is independent of ours. Thus, there are literally no Malaysians and Filipinos like you have mentioned, except those who studied in NUS, vying for our jobs.
(Source: Singapore Pharmaceutical Society)

5) "General degree"
Be mindful of this term. The Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy)(Hons) degree is highly specialized and NOT a general degree. The course gives you both breadth and depth associated to being a pharmacist as well as allowing you to explore various other fields that we may go into.

6) Moving on from Hospital
Yes many pharmacists do move on to other sectors based on their interests and there are many fields that a pharmacists can go into. Regulatory, Sales, Research, Academia, Clinical, Specialising etc... This shows how versatile this specialized degree is. However, a degree doesn't guarantee you a high salary job. It is what you do AFTER having a degree that matters.

7) Bell curve
Yes, like I have mentioned, it is an academically demanding course with many straight A students as your classmates.

8) Types of classmates
There are a lot of various classmates that you might get. You might be surprised. Just because the course is academically demanding, doesn't mean everyone is a nerd. It doesn't work that way anymore in university, it is how you study.

To sum it up, your comments about the course are very superficial and incorrect and I hope I rectified any misunderstandings caused. And no, I am not kidding. :)

Cheers.

For the love of God, any prospective student please do not listen to this wannabe retard who is obviously still schooling. Go talk to a real pharmacist who have worked at least 3 years. Or listen to me, a real doctor with many pharmacist friends.

Compounding skills? Lol. All the skills you mentioned can be done by a poly pharm tech. Your skills are not valuable!

Higher starting pay? Lol. You have to do an additional one year training to get pgy1 status so you should compare your pay to an accountancy grad with 2 years experience. Pay increment is also pathetic. Most ex pharmacists I know are taking a paycut to move to regulatory and industry to try to restart their careers

All your male seniors wish they were me and all your female seniors wish they can be with me. I'm sorry to burst your bubble kiddo, but you have many years of self doubt and depression ahead

Fancy this wannabe student who never worked a day in his life at a hospital trying to tell me what I don't know. Lol
 
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Now that I have more free time over the weekend I have decided to spend a little time ridiculing your sad misguided post in hopes that it will help save many straight A students from several years of misery

1) Compounding skills
The skills you learn in your compounding module are pathetic and in no way at a high level enough to be compounding oncology medicines. As I said before, a poly pharm tech can do that basic compounding easily. A far cry from "not something everyone can do!" as you claimed.

Oh and you think you can easily get to the position to be compounding oncology medicines? First you have to make to a clinical hospital job which isn't easy to land anymore. That means you have to outperform many other straight A students in your cohort. Then you have to perform well enough for the hospital beating out other 1st/2nd upper Hons straight A pharmacists so that the hospital will offer you a scholarship to a PharmD or Masters to qualify you to be an Oncology specialist. After that much studying and overachieving you can be rewarded with the satisfaction of compounding onco meds and the pay...wait what? The pay doesn't go up? Lol. More on that later!
This point shows me how little you know about the profession.

2) Employment rate
The pharmacy department fucked up big in expanding the pharmacy cohort only to find out hospitals now prefer to hire foreigners as they can be bonded because most locals seek to leave this shit job after a few years. Go ask your seniors, many good performing students are unable to land their dream hospital gigs and have to settle for retail. Sure the employment rate still remains higher than most courses, but for a course comprising of almost all straight A students, just a few of such students having to face not having a job after graduation is quite sad when the student can easily go to another course, outperform the rest and easily land a better job.

3) Salary-wise
I can only laugh at this. You spend much more time in school and training that your starting pay isn't much at all considering the extra time you have to put into it. The work hours are really long too, especially during pre-reg periods. You have to bid to apply leave and they won't be easily approved. Pay increment is LOL. Even after getting a Pharm D or specialist Masters, you can watch your pay not go up by much

4) Competition with Filipino/Malaysian
Quote so many sources, but no on the field experience. Basically you are just talking out of your ass. Look around, the majority of pharmacists are foreigners, especially Malaysians. They are tightening the intake of foreigners due to oversupply nowadays, but the struggle is real working with foreigners that can take lower pay as their singapore pay is worth 3x in their home country

5) "General degree"
Way to miss my point. The degree is a specialised degree that allows you to become a hospital or retail pharmcists that no other degree can provide. However since being a pharmacist is a career no one desires to stay in, the degree confers no advantage and is basically as good as a general degree. All the other sectors you talk of can be done by someone with a general science/business degree as well.

6) Moving on from Hospital
Yes many pharmacists do move on to other sectors based on their interests and there are many fields that a pharmacists can go into. So ever thought of why so many pharmacists want to move on if being a pharmacist is such a cushy job? Hint: It's not. It's depressing. Looks like all that quality Singapore education only taught you to mug and now you have zero critical thinking ability to question why things are moving the way they are.

Versatile? LOL. You can't do anything special with this degree, and what you do after your degree determines your success (i.e move out to another industry altogether!)

7) Bell curve
Glad you agree with me. If you want to enjoy another four years of intense mugging competition with other straight A students, and face joblessness should you finish at the bottom of the pack, not make it to your dream hospital job if you finish in the middle of the pack, feel smug when you finish at the top only to find that your pay is stagnant and patients/doctors don't respect you, while watching your secondary school/jc friends outearn you with lower grades, this is the perfect university course for you!

8) Types of classmates
I like how you didn't disagree with me. I guess you know yourself that your classmates are mostly boring muggers and there are no cool characters. The cooler people you'd think probably wont work as a pharmacist anyway. What do you expect in a university course that specifically tests you on your memorisation skills every exam?

To sum it up, your understanding about the course is very superficial and incorrect and I hope I rectified any misunderstandings caused. And no, I am not kidding. :)

How do I know so much about this profession, a lot more than a pharmacy student like you? Well I am a doctor who is dating a pharmacist and know many others. Oh and she is looking to leave her job now BTW. So sorry kid, I can tell your future and there is still a lot of growing pains ahead of you!

Cheers.
 
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For the love of God, any prospective student please do not listen to this wannabe retard who is obviously still schooling. Go talk to a real pharmacist who have worked at least 3 years. Or listen to me, a real doctor with many pharmacist friends.

Compounding skills? Lol. All the skills you mentioned can be done by a poly pharm tech. Your skills are not valuable!

Higher starting pay? Lol. You have to do an additional one year training to get pgy1 status so you should compare your pay to an accountancy grad with 2 years experience. Pay increment is also pathetic. Most ex pharmacists I know are taking a paycut to move to regulatory and industry to try to restart their careers

All your male seniors wish they were me and all your female seniors wish they can be with me. I'm sorry to burst your bubble kiddo, but you have many years of self doubt and depression ahead

Fancy this wannabe student who never worked a day in his life at a hospital trying to tell me what I don't know. Lol

Hi there doctor,

Wow! You're a doctor whom everyone wants to be! Guess you have the right to be so narcissistic and arrogant about it :)
I didn't expect a doctor like yourself to become so personal with your argument, attacking "this wannabe retard". I, too want to be a doctor, however if being a doctor entails a drop in moral character, looking down on others and that "god" persona that you seemed to have created for yourself, I rather pass.

Moving on to the points that you have brought up,
1) Compounding
Thanks for agreeing with me that there are jobs related to compounding and not some formulas are entirely made by machines from your previous point.
The idea of being an oncologist pharmacist was just an example of a job related to it so as to show that compounding skills are still relevant. And, not totally made by machines as you have earlier mentioned. Being an oncologist pharmacist is indeed tough, as it requires further study as well as more intense competition.
Wouldn't it be the same as a doctor specializing as well? Intense competition is bound to be present with more qualified people out there.

2) Employment rate
Employment rate vs "dream hospital gig" are 2 different things. I think you should know this, doctor :). You can be employed, whether or not its something that you want is another thing.

3) Salary wise
You have a decent salary being a pharmacist. If money would be your main drive for you to work harder, then why work in the healthcare sector at all? Go study accounting or engineering, the pay there is much better and you do not need to face life-or-death choices. As a doctor, you should know how tough it is to work in a hospital. You need a lot of passion before considering to join ANY of the healthcare jobs where your actions can influence a patient's life.

4) Competition with Filipino/Malaysian
To repeat my point, NO universities in Philippines are recognized by the SPC. They have to go through an equally demanding test or study in NUS before being able to apply as a pharmacist which I think should be considered as fair competition since they are equally if not more qualified.

5) "General degree"
Of course, one could easily miss out a point if you do not elaborate on it. Thanks for elaborating your point further. Let me reiterate, this degree allows you to have an insight on the various industries that you can venture and by no means did I suggest that it gives you an advantage, rather an insight.

6) Moving on from Hospitals
I agree, most pharmacists move on to various other roles showing yet again how versatile pharmacists are. And as quoted by what you've said as well as what I have said before, "Success is determined by what you do after obtaining the degree"

The rest of the points are either riddled with derogatory remarks attempt to ridicule me in your spite of anger just because someone disagreed with you or riddled with tales from your pharmacist friends which again proved my point of you giving superficial as well as biased comments.

All professions have their pros and cons. Working in the healthcare sector requires a lot of passion to deal with patients and the large amount of stress.
Every profession has their competition. So does that mean, we just give up and be depressed or blame the government? The only way to deal with this is to better ourselves.

Not once in my previous posts, did I encourage anyone to join Pharmacy, nor did I ridicule you as a person. I merely disagreed on the points you made, either because it wasn't explained clearly enough or was it untrue as I've mentioned above. If your point is fair, of course I will agree with you and I have done so.

Yes, a doctor is highly regarded in the medical profession. Doctors are highly regarded due to their extensive medical knowledge, professionalism in their work as well as capability that they show in handling difficult cases. The doctors that I have worked with respect pharmacists and their opinions. They portray a professional image and will never reply in the fashion that you did.
If you disagree with my points, fine, bring out your opinions and we can have a civil debate over it.

Resorting to name callings as well as devaluing the poster's ability just because I disagree with you is really very disgusting and shows such a nasty character of yours as you seek to justify yourself through name callings and derogatory remarks.
You are free to bring up any opinions of yours and likewise, I am free to do so as well. Some points that you have brought up seemed fair and I agree with them, others which I disagree on or seemed vague, I weighed in on those issues. I did say that your comments were superficial which might have been a case where some of your points were not elaborated upon. If I might have seemed rude in my expression, then I apologize. However, not once did I resort to any rude remarks.

This shall be the end of my take on your post. If you would like to bring up more points in a more civil and approachable manner, I would gladly continue our discussion about this profession. If not, I suggest you not to spoil the image of doctors through your behavior on this forum where you can hide behind this veil of anonymity, especially not at the section where impressionable prospective undergrads come to. However, if you wish to continue to do so, this wannabe retard that you have termed me shall not stop you from humiliating yourself.

Cheers.
 
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Hi there student,

Thank you for admitting you want to be like me! And yes we are all narcissistic and arrogant, which is another thorn you have to deal with when you graduate and have to work in a hospital. :)

Look at the famous natchsider in this forums, this is the attitude it takes to make it to the top. Since you have admitted you do not have the moral character and confidence to handle people's lives, you are right to pass on your dream to be a doctor and settle for being a lowly pharmacist instead.


Moving on to the points that you have brought up,
1) Compounding
Sorry you still don't get it. There are barely any jobs that require compounding and you will mostly be just counting tablets. I am highlighting that any compounding you think you'll be doing is absolutely minimal and that also doesn't require any skill as any pharm tech can do it.

If you didn't realise, only about half the cohort in med school actually specialise. But no worry, even if you finish last in med school you are still a doctor, and you can still be a good GP but if you finish last in your pharmacy cohort...joblessness and depression ahead!

2) Employment rate
Looks like you are babbling here already. All I'm saying is that you will either be unemployed or underemployed if you choose to go down this route. Be prepared for the disappointment ahead! Looks like you aren't disagreeing with me too

3) Salary wise
That is precisely what I am saying. The job here is tough and the pay is very low. And you don't even get hands on experience in saving the patient, you will barely even talk to a patient anyway. Unless your logic reasoning and passion is faulty you will soon grow to resent the job and the low pay. It's a warning to future students out there!

4) Competition with Filipino/Malaysian
Not sure if they still do this, but plenty of pinoy pharmacists were sent to NUS for further training to become pharmacists. Now that there is an oversupply, they probably have stopped doing it. But you just know that they will do it again once the position gets short again, so your pay will remain depressed

5) "General degree"
Looks like you are agreeing with me now that your degree is as good as a general degree. Insights can easily be gotten without having to spend 4 years memorising notes on stuff you will never use

6) Moving on from Hospitals
You're still purposely avoiding the main point I'm pushing. Why do pharmacists want to move on from their cushy roles they are so passionate for? Avoiding the truth will not help anybody in this thread

Yes I am obviously ridiculing you on an internet forum no less. The fact that you are unable to defend yourself from the ridicule should prove to any prospective student that this is a sad place to be, which is what I am going for. I'm doing a community service here :)

And I agree. No blaming of the government, just better yourself to be better than this and move on to another industry instead of complaining the whole day and face depression.

I have not seen you actively discouraging anyone from joining and have not seen you spill first hand experience on the job. This makes your inexperienced advice dangerous to any prospective student

And darling, this is the internet. The beauty of it is that I can talk however I want with no repercussions, so I can spill the raw truth even if it hurts your feelings. If you want to keep up a veil to trick any prospective students then this isn't a place for you. Go to a career fair or something. Impressionable students are here to learn the truth and I am here to give them the truth in huge doses. I'm sorry I came here a little too late to help you out since you are obviously already committed to this.

Cheers.
 
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Hi there student,

Thank you for admitting you want to be like me! And yes we are all narcissistic and arrogant, which is another thorn you have to deal with when you graduate and have to work in a hospital. :)

Look at the famous natchsider in this forums, this is the attitude it takes to make it to the top. Since you have admitted you do not have the moral character and confidence to handle people's lives, you are right to pass on your dream to be a doctor and settle for being a lowly pharmacist instead.


Moving on to the points that you have brought up,
1) Compounding
Sorry you still don't get it. There are barely any jobs that require compounding and you will mostly be just counting tablets. I am highlighting that any compounding you think you'll be doing is absolutely minimal and that also doesn't require any skill as any pharm tech can do it.

If you didn't realise, only about half the cohort in med school actually specialise. But no worry, even if you finish last in med school you are still a doctor, and you can still be a good GP but if you finish last in your pharmacy cohort...joblessness and depression ahead!

2) Employment rate
Looks like you are babbling here already. All I'm saying is that you will either be unemployed or underemployed if you choose to go down this route. Be prepared for the disappointment ahead! Looks like you aren't disagreeing with me too

3) Salary wise
That is precisely what I am saying. The job here is tough and the pay is very low. And you don't even get hands on experience in saving the patient, you will barely even talk to a patient anyway. Unless your logic reasoning and passion is faulty you will soon grow to resent the job and the low pay. It's a warning to future students out there!

4) Competition with Filipino/Malaysian
Not sure if they still do this, but plenty of pinoy pharmacists were sent to NUS for further training to become pharmacists. Now that there is an oversupply, they probably have stopped doing it. But you just know that they will do it again once the position gets short again, so your pay will remain depressed

5) "General degree"
Looks like you are agreeing with me now that your degree is as good as a general degree. Insights can easily be gotten without having to spend 4 years memorising notes on stuff you will never use

6) Moving on from Hospitals
You're still purposely avoiding the main point I'm pushing. Why do pharmacists want to move on from their cushy roles they are so passionate for? Avoiding the truth will not help anybody in this thread

Yes I am obviously ridiculing you on an internet forum no less. The fact that you are unable to defend yourself from the ridicule should prove to any prospective student that this is a sad place to be, which is what I am going for. I'm doing a community service here :)

And I agree. No blaming of the government, just better yourself to be better than this and move on to another industry instead of complaining the whole day and face depression.

I have not seen you actively discouraging anyone from joining and have not seen you spill first hand experience on the job. This makes your inexperienced advice dangerous to any prospective student

And darling, this is the internet. The beauty of it is that I can talk however I want with no repercussions, so I can spill the raw truth even if it hurts your feelings. If you want to keep up a veil to trick any prospective students then this isn't a place for you. Go to a career fair or something. Impressionable students are here to learn the truth and I am here to give them the truth in huge doses. I'm sorry I came here a little too late to help you out since you are obviously already committed to this.

Cheers.

Wow, being a pharmacist is lowly? "I solemnly pledge to... respect my colleagues as my professional brothers and sisters .." Guess this Hippocratic Oath means nothing to a healthcare professional like yourself.

As I've mentioned, if you would like to continue with this debate in an amicable manner and not ramble on like a child, I will be glad to engage in that meaningful debate about this profession. If not, do continue this humiliating one man show of yours if you wish to. :)

PS. Freedom of speech on the internet has no repercussion? How cute and innocent :)
 

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Wow, being a pharmacist is lowly? "I solemnly pledge to... respect my colleagues as my professional brothers and sisters .." Guess this Hippocratic Oath means nothing to a healthcare professional like yourself.

As I've mentioned, if you would like to continue with this debate in an amicable manner and not ramble on like a child, I will be glad to engage in that meaningful debate about this profession. If not, do continue this humiliating one man show of yours if you wish to. :)

PS. Freedom of speech on the internet has no repercussion? How cute and innocent :)

Yes it indeed is lowly, hence many of your ilk are leaving the profession in droves

The only child here is you, still in school and all, with no experience and talking out of naivety

You don't have anymore material to debate with me anyway, due to your lack of experience. As you gain more experience, you will grow to agree with me more and more

I really do hope the internet does have repercussions, so you can at least get some retribution for trying to drag some other impressionable stellar students down into the same shithole you are in
 

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Yes it indeed is lowly, hence many of your ilk are leaving the profession in droves

The only child here is you, still in school and all, with no experience and talking out of naivety

You don't have anymore material to debate with me anyway, due to your lack of experience. As you gain more experience, you will grow to agree with me more and more

I really do hope the internet does have repercussions, so you can at least get some retribution for trying to drag some other impressionable stellar students down into the same shithole you are in

Ok, since you are so determined on insisting your one sided views formed after hearing your disgruntled colleagues are 100% correct, I shall let you win. Not being bothered to explain some misconceptions that you expressed doesn't mean I can't. :) As I've said, you want a discussion, do it in a civil manner.

Oh let me apologise too since I lost, for disagreeing with a high and mighty doctor such as yourself. I don't want to ruin your godly reputation further by making you use derogatory remarks or name-calling on me.

Oh since you are still at it, why not you close down the department of pharmacy and take over the jobs of the Pharmacists, I'm sure O' almighty Doctors such as yourself have the ability to do so :). Save everyone from entering this shithole.

Sincerely,
From a lowly, wannabe retard stuck in a shithole such as myself :)
 
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Anyway, for those interested in Pharmacy,

choose it because you are passionate and have the heart to join the healthcare sector. It is not an easy sector to be in. No one is putting a knife at your throat to join pharmacy nor are they forcing you to not choose pharmacy. Yes, it is true we do not have the recognition that doctors have nor is the job of the pharmacists' a walk in the park nor is the life of a pharmacists undergraduate easy. Doctors/nurses/therapist/dentists do not have an easy time either.

However, if you have the compassion, commitment and passion to do so, one would be happy no matter which position or sector he is in.

Lastly, always remember the morals that you should have especially in a sector which requires compassion and empathy. Treat others with utmost respect which in turn will gain their respect and not create a "godlike" persona of yourself just because you have a better job than others as every job is essential to support the healthcare system. Remember, "Respect is earned, not given".

Ultimately, you make the decision.
 

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Ok, since you are so determined on insisting your one sided views formed after hearing your disgruntled colleagues are 100% correct, I shall let you win. Not being bothered to explain some misconceptions that you expressed doesn't mean I can't. :) As I've said, you want a discussion, do it in a civil manner.

Oh let me apologise too since I lost, for disagreeing with a high and mighty doctor such as yourself. I don't want to ruin your godly reputation further by making you use derogatory remarks or name-calling on me.

Oh since you are still at it, why not you close down the department of pharmacy and take over the jobs of the Pharmacists, I'm sure O' almighty Doctors such as yourself have the ability to do so :). Save everyone from entering this shithole.

Sincerely,
From a lowly, wannabe retard stuck in a shithole such as myself :)


Why close down Pharmacy when we can pay losers like yourself low pay to do the shit jobs we don't want to do?

If there aren't anymore pharmacists, then I have to do the dispensing myself meh? You know how much it costs to hire a doctor to dispense? Godly talents like me are paid highly to do better things

You might as well as me to shut down cleaning companies and ask me to wash the hospital toilets myself. It will be crazy, paying doctors to wash toilets. Let some other lowly educated loser do it! But just because I don't want to wash toilets does not mean I will recommend any smart straight As student to become toilet cleaners! They are better than this
 

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Anyway, for those interested in Pharmacy,

choose it because you are passionate and have the heart to join the healthcare sector. It is not an easy sector to be in. No one is putting a knife at your throat to join pharmacy nor are they forcing you to not choose pharmacy. Yes, it is true we do not have the recognition that doctors have nor is the job of the pharmacists' a walk in the park nor is the life of a pharmacists undergraduate easy. Doctors/nurses/therapist/dentists do not have an easy time either.

However, if you have the compassion, commitment and passion to do so, one would be happy no matter which position or sector he is in.

Lastly, always remember the morals that you should have especially in a sector which requires compassion and empathy. Treat others with utmost respect which in turn will gain their respect and not create a "godlike" persona of yourself just because you have a better job than others as every job is essential to support the healthcare system. Remember, "Respect is earned, not given".

Ultimately, you make the decision.

I hope you keep a record of your own words and revisit them after you have worked 5 years. Then you can have a good laugh at yourself

Just think, you are student with no experience trying to lord your principles like you are in the know. Just lol :s13:
 
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