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Oh no, i won't even think of claiming tax refund, that is asking for trouble, already we are glad 2018 uvxy was a net loss, so better stay low-key. Just worried if need be, i have to submit a US tax return, very alien to us how to go about it...

Dont buy uvxy friends! It is considered partnership, meaning you conduct business in US.
 

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your posts on CPF made me wonder if there's anything i can do for my mum. she's recently acquired PR status in sg at the age of 56, so she has literally $0 in all her CPF accounts at the moment. as she doesnt have any income, i feel tempted to top up her CPF account so that i can save some tax benefits, and she might be able to get some cpf pay-out later when she reaches 65 or 70. but tax relief is capped at 7k cpf contribution per year, and i'm the only person working in the family and therefore the only person to top up her cpf. given that she's already past 55 years old, do you think it's still worth it for me to make voluntary contribution to her cpf account?
Yes, absolutely. The $7,000 of tax relief is still valuable to you, and she gets 6% (!) interest on that money.

if i make 7k contribution each year starting this year, it seems that she still wont be able to have enough money to enjoy CPF Life?
No, it’s possible to join CPF LIFE even if you have a really low balance Retirement Account. The monthly payout won’t be much, of course. CPF LIFE participation is mandatory when the balance hits $60,000, unless you apply for and qualify for a waiver (based on having a suitable alternative life annuity).

do you think i should make contributions more than 7k a year to make it worthwhile?
Well, on the first $30,000 she’ll earn 6% interest, and on the next $30,000 she’ll earn 5% interest. Then 4% interest thereafter. And you/she can top up her MediSave Account to the Basic Healthcare Sum and Retirement Account to the Enhanced Retirement Sum. That’s hundreds of thousands of dollars. While her RA is below the Full Retirement Sum you can qualify for $7,000 of tax relief per year. Even if you’re shoving $30K/year into her Retirement Account that’s still several years of tax relief for you.

So yes, I’d be zooming up her balances, even faster than the tax relief limit. It seems like a no brainer since nothing else is going to be that attractive.

If you can afford $30,000 this month, or even $60,000, I’d do that. I mean, 6%! 5%! Wow, that’s something these days. Even 4% is excellent.

One more rule about CPF LIFE. If she terminates her PR status in the future and is not already receiving CPF LIFE monthly payouts, then she won’t be able to join CPF LIFE. In that event she could leave her funds in her CPF subaccounts earning interest. Any withdrawal has to be in one big chunk, all CPF dollars. There are no partial withdrawals allowed for ex-PRs/ex-citizens. The earliest she can start CPF LIFE payouts is age 65, although in my view it’s smarter to wait until age 70 (the default) if financially possible.

Also, she should stop by a CPF office and make a CPF nomination, meaning she designates who will receive her residual CPF assets when she passes. If she doesn’t do that then there’s a trustee fee involved along with some complexity, even if she has a will. (Wills don’t apply to CPF assets.)

I would emphasize her Retirement Account at this point since that’s about her retirement income. Her MediSave Account is at least less important right now. You should probably assume her MediShield Life (or Integrated Shield base plan) premiums using your MediSave Account since you qualify for tax relief and could, conceivably, top up your own MediSave Account if you have room below the CPF Annual Limit.
 

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Thank u BBCW so much for your valuable insights! I have previously suggested to mum on this idea of me topping up her CPF account. She said she wants to "sit down together and do some maths". I think she's worried that after I shovel in so much hard earned cash into her cpf account, if she's not able to live till a certain 'breakeven' age (*fingers crossed*), it would not be fair to me. So I find it a bit uncomfortableto "do the math" with her, it feels like discussing when someone should pass on and putting a dollar sign to an invaluable life. :(
But after reading your reply, I guess I'll just go ahead and do it. Guess it's the best for both of us.
 

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Hi BBCW, I have another question, which i was not able to find a definite answer on the CPF website.

Is my understanding correct that as long as I can top up my mum's retirement account to meet the basic retirement sum 6 months before her 70th birthday, she would still be able to enjoy CPF life at the age of 70?

It seems that I can only make contribution to her RA now instead of SA, so I assume only her RA balance will be counted towards the basic retirement sum when she decides to join CPF life right? And her SA and OA accounts are not even relevant anymore since she's already past the age of 55?
 

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Under current rules she or somebody could top up her Retirement Account at age 79 and 10 months (for example), and she could join CPF LIFE before age 80.

Of course the big disadvantage is that nobody is collecting the sweet 4+% annually compounded interest over the many, many years before her 80th birthday.

If you're flush with cash you're certainly allowed to shove lots of it into her CPF accounts, starting with her Retirement Account (to the Enhanced Retirement Sum).

You're right that her Ordinary and Special Accounts aren't too relevant at this stage, but they could be. At the rate of $37,740 (the CPF Annual Limit) it's possible to shove cash into her OA/SA/MA ("all three" top up). Not so exciting when her RA is empty, or for the next $180K or so, but it could become interesting if you/she are looking for a reasonably attractive place to park cash. Once her RA has hit the FRS the OA+SA part is just like a bank account for her, really -- a strangely high yielding one.
 

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Hi BBCW, really appreciated your detailed explanation, ive tried to study the CPF website but found the cpf rules to be very complicated.

May I summarize my understanding as this:

1. I can top up my mums RA up to the enhanced retirement sum at any time, although tax relief for me is capped at 7k contribution/year.

2. At any point before 79 years and 10 months old, she can choose to join CPF life (even with RA < BRS). But to do so, i assume she has to inform CPF specifically about it, otherwise she will not be automatically put to CPF life even her RA hits the BRS before 65?

2. At any time, on top of the RA top up, I am also allowed to make "all three" cpf top up to her OA/SA/MA at $37,740 per year, earning 2.5%/4%/4% interest (assuming I've placed more than FRS in her RA), although without any tax benefits.

3. At any time after her RA balance is more than FRS, she will be able to "withdraw" cash from her OA/SA freely, although any deposits will have to be made to "all three" accounts (up to $37,740/yr) and MA money can only be used for designated medical purposes. (Not sure when u said her OA/SA can be used like a bank account, does it mean that cash deposits can be made only to SA account, therefore earning 4% interest and nothing will flow into her MA?)

May I know if you think my understanding is correct?
 

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1. I can top up my mums RA up to the enhanced retirement sum at any time, although tax relief for me is capped at 7k contribution/year.
That’s correct. Her first $30,000 in combined balances will earn 6% interest, the next $30,000 will earn 5%, and additional RA/SA/MA dollars will earn 4%. OA earns 2.5%.

2. At any point before 79 years and 10 months old, she can choose to join CPF life (even with RA < BRS). But to do so, i assume she has to inform CPF specifically about it, otherwise she will not be automatically put to CPF life even her RA hits the BRS before 65?
There’s a $60,000 threshold for “mandatory” participation in CPF LIFE. But yes, she should inform CPF before age 70 what she’d like to do.

2. At any time, on top of the RA top up, I am also allowed to make "all three" cpf top up to her OA/SA/MA at $37,740 per year, earning 2.5%/4%/4% interest (assuming I've placed more than FRS in her RA), although without any tax benefits.
That’s correct.

It’s also possible to make directed MA top ups, also with no tax relief (since she doesn’t qualify for her own tax relief). MA top ups must also fit within the CPF Annual Limit and they must fit within the Basic Healthcare Sum (BHS), currently $57,200.

3. At any time after her RA balance is more than FRS, she will be able to "withdraw" cash from her OA/SA freely, although any deposits will have to be made to "all three" accounts (up to $37,740/yr) and MA money can only be used for designated medical purposes. (Not sure when u said her OA/SA can be used like a bank account, does it mean that cash deposits can be made only to SA account, therefore earning 4% interest and nothing will flow into her MA?)
Once her MA hits the BHS — which is fixed on her 65th birthday, by the way (no more increases) — an “all three” deposit will flow only to her OA and SA. And, assuming her CPF LIFE participation is funded well enough, OA+SA then turns into a weirdly high yielding (>2.5%) on demand savings account for her, yes.

May I know if you think my understanding is correct?
Yes, I think you’ve got it.

In summary, and cash permitting, newly minted PRs really ought to zoom up their CPF balances. It’s a great deal.
 

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Thank u BBCW for helping clearing my doubts! I still feel uncomfortable to 'sit down and do the maths together' with my mum, so I'll just go ahead and make the contributions. I think it's best for both of us.
 
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Yes, similar offers are available from insurance companies in Singapore -- the various savings and retirement plans they offer, with their guaranteed and non-guaranteed returns, and with varying credit ratings among the insurers -- some higher quality than others. The key difference is that the U.S. financial markets are bigger, more efficient, more transparent, and more competitive. So the deals on offer there are going to be better value deals all around.

A roll-your-own strategy is to use the options/futures markets to insure against particular downside risks -- the most severe ones anyway. But that's not free, of course, and you have to be careful about counterparty risks, as always. It's analogous to what companies in Singapore do in their currency hedging.

Shiny Things answers a lot of these questions, and as a generalization he's not a fan of such insurance. You really don't need such insurance if you simply follow "old fashioned" long-term investment principles.

Thank you, BBC! I agree with you that the products offered here in SG have too low returns.

Then it is clear. Lets stay the "old fashioned" course! Thank you.
 

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Hi BBC,

Some questions and hope u could help on it.

When we do a fast transfer from local bank to IB, how Long does it take before the fund reaches our IB account which then we could trade it?

Secondly, there are some financial bloggers (agent) who strongly goes against ETFs like STI, IWDA, EIMI etc and claims that buying a product from the agent and let him actively manage it will yield a lot a lot higher returns and even with lower risk than the ETFs, do you think these are worth any consideration or speaking from a Long term investment portfolio view, we should just ignore these agents and stick to IWDA etc?
 

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When we do a fast transfer from local bank to IB, how Long does it take before the fund reaches our IB account which then we could trade it?

From my experience, about 1 hour during US office hours

Secondly, there are some financial bloggers (agent) who strongly goes against ETFs like STI, IWDA, EIMI etc and claims that buying a product from the agent and let him actively manage it will yield a lot a lot higher returns and even with lower risk than the ETFs, do you think these are worth any consideration or speaking from a Long term investment portfolio view, we should just ignore these agents and stick to IWDA etc?

Generally I would pay very little attention to obvious self-serving articles. It's like oil companies writing articles about how bad electric cars are.

In case you haven't noticed, people advocating passively managed funds don't have anything to gain from their recommendation.
 

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U.K. Resident for 3+ Months Between 1992 and 2008?

If you lived in the United Kingdom for at least 3 months any time between 1992 and 2008, even as an international student, then keep an eye on this Web site:

https://mastercardconsumerclaim.co.uk

The plaintiffs in this lawsuit against Mastercard won an important court appeal, so there's a reasonable chance they could win damages in the end. If the case is ultimately resolved in the plaintiffs' favor, you could be eligible for up to £300 in free money from Mastercard.

Check the Web site periodically to see what progress has been made, if any. Retain any proof you have that you resided in the U.K. during the time period described on the Web site and any purchase-related records, such as debit/credit card statements. The case is known as "Merricks v. Mastercard," and it's one of a new breed of class action lawsuits that are now possible in the United Kingdom thanks to the Consumer Rights Act 2015.
 

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Hi BBCW,

this is my first post, I have been following Shiny Things and you for the longest time. I want to check with you, how or what do I read from IBKR reports on my performance for IWDA for the past 1 year or so? TIA!
 

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I want to check with you, how or what do I read from IBKR reports on my performance for IWDA for the past 1 year or so?
Interactive Brokers offers a rich set of custom account statements you can run. Log into the account management (or client portal) section, and you should find the statements section.
 

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Having Trouble Saving?

The BBC reports on some interesting “tricks” you can apply to encourage yourself to save consistently. Researchers in India trialed a “two envelope” scheme. Workers were paid the same wages but split into two envelopes, one with a picture of their children on it. Sure enough, the workers who received their pay split into two envelopes were more reluctant to rip into their children (literally), and they saved more.

You can use the same technique. Pay yourself first — i.e. make the savings portion automatic, using automatic FAST or GIRO deductions, for example — and then attach a photo that’s meaningful to you to that account. It could be a tiled mosaic photo of your first home (if you’re saving for a down payment), with each square filled in as you make progress to your goal. It could be a picture of your child or grandchild, as in the Indian experiment. Or maybe a photo of your parents or grandparents enjoying their retirement in some lovely setting. Whatever works for you.

I recommend doing the same thing with credit cards, by the way: put them on automatic full balance monthly GIRO.
 

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BBCWatcher's Relatively Simple Guide to CPF
Updated January 25, 2026

Here's my simple, general advice on getting the most out of CPF. Exceptions sometimes apply, but this advice is how I would optimize CPF over a lifetime in the majority of cases.

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1. Make a CPF nomination. Update your nomination if/as needed.

Early Working Career

2. Make top ups to your own MediSave Account if you qualify for tax relief. MA voluntary contributions must fit within the Basic Healthcare Sum. Up to $8,000 per year is eligible for tax relief.

When You Have a Medical Expense

3. If your MA has reached the Basic Healthcare Sum, if you have a MA payable medical expense, and if you can make a MA top up with tax relief, try paying the medical bill with MA then top up MA within the same calendar month as the deduction and before your payroll cycle MA contribution and any insurance repayment. Otherwise, consider paying in cash so you can collect a credit card rebate (for example) and also avoid losing any MA interest. (Then insurance may reimburse you.)

Early and/or Mid Working Career

4. In late January every year make a $8,000 (total) Voluntary Contribution/top up to your own MediSave Account and/or Special Account if you qualify for tax relief. Your Voluntary Contribution to MA must fit within the Basic Healthcare Sum. Your top up to your Special Account must fit within the Full Retirement Sum.

5. In late January every year, make another $8,000 (total) Voluntary Contribution/top up to a qualified family member's (such as a nonworking spouse's or elder's) MediSave Account and/or Special Account (or Retirement Account if the recipient is age 55+) if you qualify for tax relief. The same MA and SA limits apply. RA top ups below the Full Retirement Sum qualify for tax relief.

6. If you have at least some Ordinary Account dollars piling up that you won't need specifically for housing, transfer them to your Special Account in every month you have an excess. All such transfers must fit within the Full Retirement Sum and are only possible before your 55th birthday. (However, when market interest rates are exceptionally high you might instead buy some Singapore Government Securities to enjoy even higher interest rates.)

7. If you have Ordinary Account dollars still piling up, and if your Special Account has reached the Full Retirement Sum, consider participating in the CPF Investment Scheme (OA) using the lowest cost CPF Investment Account provider and a prudent, low cost investment choice. Don't choose too many separate investment vehicles since each one incurs fees.

8. Don't forget your spouse or partner! For example, if your spouse hasn't yet qualified for maximum CPF bonus interest, try to help him/her out.

Just Before You Take a HDB Loan

9. Consider transferring your (and your spouse's) OA dollars above $20,000 to your Special Account(s) if you wish to avoid the "HDB sweep."

If You're Self-Employed in Singapore

10. You're obligated to make MediSave Account contributions, but consider making "all three account" Voluntary Contributions since they're eligible for tax relief, too.

In Your 55th Birthday Month

11. Consider topping up your new Retirement Account with cash and/or transfers (including transfers of OA dollars from your spouse, for example).

In Your Golden Years

12. If you have spare cash and would like to boost your retirement income for life, consider top ups to your Retirement Account at least every time the Enhanced Retirement Sum is raised.

13. If you'd like an attractive place to park some funds (at least when market interest rates are low), consider making an "all three" Voluntary Contribution into your OA/RA/MA. If your MA has reached the Basic Healthcare Sum then that portion of your contribution will spill over into your RA (if you haven't met the Full Retirement Sum yet) or OA (if you have). If you've met the FRS then the RA portion should spill into OA, too. This contribution must fit within the CPF Annual Limit.

14. Unless you're in poor health and/or in financial distress, start your CPF LIFE payouts at age 70 on the Escalating Plan.

15. Don't make your loved ones wait for a bequest that might never come if you merely live past a certain age. With your foundational standard of living assured with ERS-level CPF LIFE (age 70 payout start, Escalating Plan), be generous to your loved ones right away, while you're still around for shared enjoyment. If they'd like to invest your gifts into prudent long-term investments, sometimes including CPF, that's a great way to build truly dynastic wealth. And/or education, a down payment on a house, starting a new business, etc.

When You're a New Singapore Permanent Resident

16. The above advice applies, but (if able, and if market interest rates are low) you should consider slamming lots of dollars into CPF especially during the first couple years when you're subject to reduced compulsory contributions and have more room below applicable limits. As soon as your get your NRIC number assigned you should be able to make CPF contributions. To some degree you can control when your NRIC number is issued, so try to get that done as quickly as possible after your In Principle Approval (IPA) letter.

If You're a U.S. Person (or Become One)

17. CPF is still attractive, but you should be very careful with the CPF Investment Scheme due to PFIC complications. Most CPFIS options are "PFIC toxic." You'll need to report your employer's share of CPF contributions as earned, non-excludable income — which is helpful to qualify for U.S. Roth IRA contributions. All interest credited across all CPF subaccounts should be reported every year and is U.S. taxable. Thus there is no U.S. tax on lump sum CPF withdrawals (except for the final bit of interest) since all the income and interest is reported and taxed as/when it flows. CPF LIFE annuity payouts will be subject to the IRS's after-tax annuity rules, so the tax rate on those payouts should be low. Your CPF account should be reported annually on FinCEN Form 114 ("FBAR") and IRS Form 8938 ("FATCA"), as applicable.

If You Become a Tax Resident of Another Country

18. Singapore has very few tax treaties with other countries. In most cases CPF (and your other assets and income) will fall under the tax system of your country of residence without any special considerations or favors. Report and pay taxes according to the tax laws and tax rules in your country of residence.

Note that inheritance tax may apply if your CPF nominee falls within another country's inheritance tax system. For example, most residents of Japan (and many past residents if they've lived in Japan within the past 10 years) are subject to Japanese inheritance tax.

If You Have an Elder with Limited Retirement Savings

19. Deposit some dollars (cash and/or OA) into his/her Retirement Account to boost his/her retirement income. Matching dollars from the government and/or tax relief may be available for cash deposits. Any residual will be paid to his/her CPF nominee(s).
 
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Hi bbc, how would you approach retirement drawdown for someone with both a boglehead style portfolio of stock + bond, and a healthy, ers level cpf stash?

I know a safe drawdown rate from the stock /bond portfolio would be 3% pa, but is there any adjustments that should be made when accounting for cpf life pay outs that begin at 65-70 years of age?
 

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Hi bbc, how would you approach retirement drawdown for someone with both a boglehead style portfolio of stock + bond, and a healthy, ers level cpf stash?

I know a safe drawdown rate from the stock /bond portfolio would be 3% pa, but is there any adjustments that should be made when accounting for cpf life pay outs that begin at 65-70 years of age?
If you have a CPF LIFE payout stream in your pipeline, especially if it's an Escalating Plan stream, and if you feel 3%/year is a safe rate of drawdown, then you can "front load" (pull forward) the drawdown somewhat. In other words, you should be able to exceed 3%/year before starting CPF LIFE payouts if you're then going to aim below 3%/year thereafter.

But it's not 3.5%/year before and 2.5%/year after, for example (+0.5% before, -0.5% after). When you "front load" a drawdown you're giving up some future yield. You should take that into account.

The Escalating Plan can be helpful because it's the most "back loaded" CPF LIFE payout stream, meaning it allows you to be that much more "front loaded" when drawing down from other assets.

Of course you're not required to spend accumulated wealth, although (as I often suggest) it's quite nice to give more earlier to others, such as to loved ones and to charities.
 

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Hi BBCWatcher, I am keen to get VDTY - Vanguard USD Treasury Bond UCITS ETF from LSE using IB. I am a Singaporean, not a US citizen or PR.

I am concerned that there may be a foreign withholding tax there. From my limited understanding, there should not be withholding tax for USD Treasury Bond directly.

However, I am not sure for US bond ETF though. Do you have any idea on the above-mentioned?
 
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