Official Shiny Things thread—Part IV

[cassowary18]

Continuation of previous thread since it seems to be closed?

Previous thread: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...l-shiny-things-thread%97part-iii-6219797.html

 

[cassowary18]

FAQs (from previous thread front page)

Why should I bother investing in Singaporean stocks? International stocks give much better returns!

Two good reasons:

• Just because international stocks have outperformed Singaporean stocks in the past doesn’t mean they’ll continue to do that in the future. Emerging markets rampaged higher all through the 2000s, and there was a theme that “the US is dead, emerging markets are where it’s at”. Markets follow trends, just like fashion; and emerging markets like Singapore just aren’t trendy at the moment.
• The other reason is that Singaporean stocks give you exposure to your local economy, in a way that international stocks or your CPF doesn’t. If the Singaporean economy does well, Singaporean stocks will do well, and your retirement pot will rise along with the cost of living - so you’ve got a hedge against the cost of living going up as well.

Why is Standard Chartered charging me such high fees on my purchase of IWDA / VWRA / some other ETF?


SCB calculates the fees wrongly on UK-listed ETFs. That fee you're seeing on the trade confirmation is wrong.

The UK has a 0.5% stamp duty on stock purchases, which doesn't include ETFs. Nevertheless, Stanchart shows stamp duty on ETF purchases after you complete the trade.

You’ll get the right number when the trade settles, though; there will be no stamp duty deducted.

 

[cassowary18]

Reserved for updates.

 

[tesarise]

can please name the thread something else so that it doesn't trigger someone?

 

[Thoreldan]

can please name the thread something else so that it doesn't trigger someone?

Whahahah i see what u did there.

Support this thread !!!

 

[sheng6690]

Hello guys , I'm looking for invest in fast growing Asia economic etf type here.. any counter for recommendation..Thank you very much

 

[FrostWurm]

can please name the thread something else so that it doesn't trigger someone?

Yes, it's all too silly to close a thread because of one angry person

Is there a way a thread could exclude a user so that the remaining people inside who behave in a civil manner are able to continue their discussions?

 

[newjersey]

can we ban chrisloh65 from entering?

+1 from me.

 

[Thoreldan]

Come let's see how soon he'll come in and create havoc.

"Omg new thread for ST!!!, I need to go and post something to make myself more detestable!!! "

 

[falseflush]

Yes, it's all too silly to close a thread because of one angry person

Is there a way a thread could exclude a user so that the remaining people inside who behave in a civil manner are able to continue their discussions?

I’ve added him to my Ignore List. You can do that too.

 

[chrisloh65]

Have. 2.98 is made up of 1 type CN government bond. 3.2 made up of 4 types but all GLCs.

What do you meant by the `fog`? Are there something looming in china now?

If you are willing to listen to REAL professional investor (and not fake professional investor who got very annoyed when we pointed out loop-holes in her investment strategy and arguments, one of which is super anti-Chinese and anti-China but keep talking up US and US stocks, and her large group of brown-tonguers):

https://markets.businessinsider.com...lio-china-underweight-yuan-2020-10-1029655860
Billionaire Ray Dalio says 'almost everybody is underweight on China' and gives advice on how to invest in the world's 2nd largest economy
Saloni Sardana
Oct. 7, 2020, 05:15 AM

Billionaire investor Ray Dalio said "everybody is underweight on China" but he thinks the "right type of balance" investing in China can yield positive results.
"Our approach is, we call it the all-weather approach, it's a certain balance in which you achieve balance without lowering the expected return. From that, you want to make the tactical moves," he said.
Dalio thinks the Chinese yuan will gain international usage outside of China in the face of a weaker US dollar.


https://markets.businessinsider.com...sonable-bullish-china-view-2020-11-1029790990
Billionaire investor Ray Dalio believes Ant's IPO suspension was reasonable - and says not investing in China is 'very risky'
Shalini Nagarajan
Nov. 11, 2020, 12:03 PM

Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates, lent support on Wednesday for China's sudden decision to suspend Ant Group's historic $37 billion listing.
Dalio said there's a risk of being too lax on innovation since Ant is a "whole new concept in terms of banking."
He also said not investing in China would be hugely risky, because a lot of money-printing in the US is threatening the dollar's reserve status.
Dalio, who has long advocated going all-in on China, said "people have accused me of being biased, naive, and in some cases unpatriotic. I think I'm just being objective."

 

[chrisloh65]

You talk as though you own this forum!

Yes, it's all too silly to close a thread because of one angry person

Is there a way a thread could exclude a user so that the remaining people inside who behave in a civil manner are able to continue their discussions?

 

[chrisloh65]

Could you kindly clarify which are the fast growing Asia economies you are interested? I suppose you are also interested in China?

Looks like nobody replying you?
Unfortunately in this thread many people only strongly supports US and US stocks (and Shiny Things and many of her brown tonguers are anti-Chinese and anti-China stocks)!

For China, you can look at 2822 HK and 2828 HK.

Avoid 2801 HK and 2802 HK because of the very low liquidity and large bid-ask spread in transaction! (I know Shiny Things recommended 2801 HK and 2802 HK, so the final decision is up to you. Note that Shiny Things always like to recommend you products/services of US companies like IB, Blackrock (which manages 2801 and 2802 HK), and Vanguard etc).

Hello guys , I'm looking for invest in fast growing Asia economic etf type here.. any counter for recommendation..Thank you very much

 

[Thoreldan]

Come let's see how soon he'll come in and create havoc.

"Omg new thread for ST!!!, I need to go and post something to make myself more detestable!!! "

2hr 20min after my post.
3hr 20min after creation of this thread

 

[Wishdom]

Hello guys , I'm looking for invest in fast growing Asia economic etf type here.. any counter for recommendation..Thank you very much

Hey, I'm also looking at taking on more risk by focusing on some country / sectors specific etfs. I currently have around $100ksgd in vwrd at 28 years old; I am definitely capable of handling risks.

Maybe something like S&P 500 since it has been doing better historically, or maybe healthcare /tech etfs.

Hope to get some inputs from the members here.

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[Thoreldan]

Hey, I'm also looking at taking on more risk by focusing on some country / sectors specific etfs. I currently have around $100ksgd in vwrd at 28 years old; I am definitely capable of handling risks.

Maybe something like S&P 500 since it has been doing better historically, or maybe healthcare /tech etfs.

Hope to get some inputs from the members here.

Posted from PCWX using Ilovennp

100k at 28 is not bad at all


I'm quite similar to what u mentioned,main bulk in iwda. Small allocation in iuit(tech) and iuhc (healthcare).

A couple of other us stocks, but that's not the purpose of this thread

 

[cassowary18]

2hr 20min after my post.
3hr 20min after creation of this thread

Just ignore him bah.

Disagreement is welcome here but disagree civilly.

 

[cassowary18]

Hello guys , I'm looking for invest in fast growing Asia economic etf type here.. any counter for recommendation..Thank you very much

In the previous thread, swan02 mentioned this

1.Go research on these

2822; 2823; 2846

2. Be aware of their very high volatility and its historical crashes, as these etfs are plagued by a lot of retail investors who would flee at the slightest nonconfidence. However, adjust your allocation to these according to your risk appetite....but don't end up 50 percent of your overall equity. In fact, if ya mainly 90 percent in iwda, 10 percent in these sounds ok.

I don't buy any of these; my China exposure comes from EIMI and that's it.

 

[Okenba]

FAQs (from previous thread front page)

Why should I bother investing in Singaporean stocks? International stocks give much better returns!

Two good reasons:

• Just because international stocks have outperformed Singaporean stocks in the past doesn’t mean they’ll continue to do that in the future. Emerging markets rampaged higher all through the 2000s, and there was a theme that “the US is dead, emerging markets are where it’s at”. Markets follow trends, just like fashion; and emerging markets like Singapore just aren’t trendy at the moment.
• The other reason is that Singaporean stocks give you exposure to your local economy, in a way that international stocks or your CPF doesn’t. If the Singaporean economy does well, Singaporean stocks will do well, and your retirement pot will rise along with the cost of living - so you’ve got a hedge against the cost of living going up as well.

• 
  
  2nd reason doesn't make sense for accumulators who are already working in SG. House gives exposure to SG economy. Job gives exposure, etc.
  If the SG economy does well, your salary will increase to keep up with the cost of living.
  
  I can see it making sense for someone who is no longer working and drawing down from their investments, but for accumulators, investing in SG seems to be overweighting what is in actual fact a micro percentage of the global stock market.

 

[Thoreldan]

2nd reason doesn't make sense for accumulators who are already working in SG. House gives exposure to SG economy. Job gives exposure, etc.
If the SG economy does well, your salary will increase to keep up with the cost of living.

I can see it making sense for someone who is no longer working and drawing down from their investments, but for accumulators, investing in SG seems to be overweighting what is in actual fact a micro percentage of the global stock market.

I'm with u on this.

Used to have some sti etf. Now fully in world/us etfs