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fax is still one of their main mode of file transfer. facepalm
Actually hanko is a pretty good way to defeat hardcopy forgery.
Japan's digital minister declares 'war' on humble floppy disk in new digital push
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Japan’s digital minister, who’s vowed to rid the bureaucracy of outdated tools from the hanko stamp to the fax machine, has now declared “war” on a technology many haven’t seen for decades — the floppy disk.
The hand-sized, square-shaped data storage item, along with similar devices including the CD or even lesser-known mini disk, are still required for some 1,900 government procedures and must go, digital minister Taro Kono wrote in a Twitter post Wednesday.
“We will be reviewing these practices swiftly,” Kono said in a news conference Tuesday, adding that Prime Minister Fumio Kishida has offered his full support. “Where does one even buy a floppy disk these days?”
A working group of the government’s Digital Extraordinary Administrative Advisory Committee is considering abolishing such designations to promote online application filing.
The working group has found about 1,900 clauses of laws, government, ministerial and other ordinances stipulating that specific storage devices, such as floppy and magneto-optical disks, be used to make administrative applications and keep data.
Japan isn’t the only nation that has struggled to phase out the outdated technology — the U.S. Defense Department only announced in 2019 that it had ended use of floppy disks, first developed in the 1960s, in a control system for its nuclear arsenal. Sony Group stopped making the disks in 2011 and many young people would struggle to describe how to use one or even to identify one in the modern workplace.
Legal hurdles are making it difficult to adopt modern technology like cloud storage for wider use within the bureaucracy, according to a presentation by the government’s digital task force dated Tuesday. The group will review the provisions, and plans to announce ways to improve them by the year-end.
The committee also launched a legislation screening team to examine whether new laws include outdated analog regulations that do not fit a digital society.
The screening will begin with bills to be submitted to an extraordinary session of parliament, which is slated to be held in autumn.
Kono said any opposition from ministries or agencies, if there is any, “will be pushed down.”
Kono, one of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party’s most visible politicians who is often cited by voters as a contender to be prime minister, has been an outspoken critic of bureaucratic inefficiencies due to archaic practices, most notably the fax machine and the hanko — a unique, carved red stamp that remains necessary to sign off official documents like a marriage license. He tried to curb use of both when he was administrative reform minister between 2020 and 2021, but the two are still widely used.
“I’m looking to get rid of the fax machine, and I still plan to do that,” Kono quipped at his news conference Tuesday.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1662006520
holy fug nostalgicmoi also...
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2639.
you will be surprise
alot of coy esp those in government or those in critical infra, are still using quite old tech stuffs
its not they dun want to change but the risk and other factors involve
they have a system that is working fine as it is since day one, simple and reliable
system that was built back in the 70s-90s then was with floppy disk , they are made to be reliable and also built to last for many many years
you want to change to newer tech, basically you have to upgrade the entire infrastructure, overhaul the whole system
and can you confirm + chop after upgrade, it will be running as good and reliable as before??
upgrade already , later many many problem then how?
downgrade back ??
omg is this real???!!!!
Hang, COD, BSOD at disk 2639.....
Don't laugh at ppl.KNN this is dinosaur era tech liao they still use. I think most people don't realize Japan system actually is very backward. A lot of things they still do paperwork when everything in sg already move to online and everything just tag to singpass
Read HWZ Forum Rules!
How to store jav like that???
Japan's digital minister declares 'war' on humble floppy disk in new digital push
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Japan’s digital minister, who’s vowed to rid the bureaucracy of outdated tools from the hanko stamp to the fax machine, has now declared “war” on a technology many haven’t seen for decades — the floppy disk.
The hand-sized, square-shaped data storage item, along with similar devices including the CD or even lesser-known mini disk, are still required for some 1,900 government procedures and must go, digital minister Taro Kono wrote in a Twitter post Wednesday.
“We will be reviewing these practices swiftly,” Kono said in a news conference Tuesday, adding that Prime Minister Fumio Kishida has offered his full support. “Where does one even buy a floppy disk these days?”
A working group of the government’s Digital Extraordinary Administrative Advisory Committee is considering abolishing such designations to promote online application filing.
The working group has found about 1,900 clauses of laws, government, ministerial and other ordinances stipulating that specific storage devices, such as floppy and magneto-optical disks, be used to make administrative applications and keep data.
Japan isn’t the only nation that has struggled to phase out the outdated technology — the U.S. Defense Department only announced in 2019 that it had ended use of floppy disks, first developed in the 1960s, in a control system for its nuclear arsenal. Sony Group stopped making the disks in 2011 and many young people would struggle to describe how to use one or even to identify one in the modern workplace.
Legal hurdles are making it difficult to adopt modern technology like cloud storage for wider use within the bureaucracy, according to a presentation by the government’s digital task force dated Tuesday. The group will review the provisions, and plans to announce ways to improve them by the year-end.
The committee also launched a legislation screening team to examine whether new laws include outdated analog regulations that do not fit a digital society.
The screening will begin with bills to be submitted to an extraordinary session of parliament, which is slated to be held in autumn.
Kono said any opposition from ministries or agencies, if there is any, “will be pushed down.”
Kono, one of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party’s most visible politicians who is often cited by voters as a contender to be prime minister, has been an outspoken critic of bureaucratic inefficiencies due to archaic practices, most notably the fax machine and the hanko — a unique, carved red stamp that remains necessary to sign off official documents like a marriage license. He tried to curb use of both when he was administrative reform minister between 2020 and 2021, but the two are still widely used.
“I’m looking to get rid of the fax machine, and I still plan to do that,” Kono quipped at his news conference Tuesday.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1662006520
USA military still using floppy disk also.