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MaoZeDuo

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1. Liked an item on a shopping platform (eg. Carousel)
2. Buyer contacted seller
3. Seller replied confirmation with bank account details via email
4. Buyer transferrred payment via ibanking
5. Seller MIA
6. Buyer continues to contact seller via mobile phone
7. Seller reappeared claiming item was mailed out with registered mail
8. Seller MIA again
9. Other buyers left comments on the seller's page relating similar experiences
10. Seller deletes them

Can the buyer do anything about this scam?

Or LLST?
 

ykeen

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If registered then ask for registered article number.

Else can't resolve gotta contact carousell and in future go for meet up deals? Or those offering takyubin delivery only $5-6 extra.
 

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cant really do anything , unless the person has done this a lot of times and scammed like thousands of dollars then the police will check into it.. if just under 100$ most likely they won't even care.

this type of online buying depends a lot on trust.. either the buyer or seller has to go first and take the risk of being scammed
 

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Online transactions, especially those with individual, have to be cash on delivery.

All my online transactions are done like this.

Meet at MRT, you pass me the goods and I pass you the cash.

I don't know why some people are so trusting that they agree to pay first to someone they don't know. There is no need and this is wrong.

If they don't have the goods, the deal is off. No pay first.
 
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Meet at MRT, you pass me the goods and I pass you the cash.

I don't know why some people are so trusting that they agree to pay first to someone they don't know. There is no need and this is wrong.

If they don't have the goods, the deal is off. No pay first.

If Carousell had a rating system like eBay probably it would be OK to pay first and wait for item to show up.

Else yeah meet up deal would be better for carousell stuffs.
 

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1. Liked an item on a shopping platform (eg. Carousel)
2. Buyer contacted seller
3. Seller replied confirmation with bank account details via email
4. Buyer transferrred payment via ibanking
5. Seller MIA
6. Buyer continues to contact seller via mobile phone
7. Seller reappeared claiming item was mailed out with registered mail
8. Seller MIA again
9. Other buyers left comments on the seller's page relating similar experiences
10. Seller deletes them

Can the buyer do anything about this scam?

Or LLST?

Since seller has a contact number. File a police report.
 

makav31i

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I have always say this, if both the seller and buyer is in Singapore, never ever transfer money to the bank account of the seller and always ask for Cash on delivery...You have zero recourse after transferring the money should the seller decide not to honour his side of the deal..if you file a police report, the police will ask you to file civil suit if you want to get back your money..Other than a lot of buyers file the police report together and the police classify it as a cheating case, there is pretty much nothing you can do once you have transferred the money over...

If both buyer and seller is in Singapore, there is absolutely zero reason that Cash on Delivery cannot be done...If the seller insists on payment first, only accept payment by PayPal for the buyers protection and nothing else..

If all buyers boycott this kind of seller who insist on payment via bank transfer, they will perhaps agree to Cash on delivery to sell their items and will safeguard both the buyers and sellers interest...
 

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I have always say this, if both the seller and buyer is in Singapore, never ever transfer money to the bank account of the seller and always ask for Cash on delivery...You have zero recourse after transferring the money should the seller decide not to honour his side of the deal..if you file a police report, the police will ask you to file civil suit if you want to get back your money..Other than a lot of buyers file the police report together and the police classify it as a cheating case, there is pretty much nothing you can do once you have transferred the money over...

If both buyer and seller is in Singapore, there is absolutely zero reason that Cash on Delivery cannot be done...If the seller insists on payment first, only accept payment by PayPal for the buyers protection and nothing else..

If all buyers boycott this kind of seller who insist on payment via bank transfer, they will perhaps agree to Cash on delivery to sell their items and will safeguard both the buyers and sellers interest...


i agree. if u must pay first, use Paypal.

important to check if he/she is a verified seller.
 

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thanks guys... the buyer had liaise with other victims to report this matter to the police... hope they can get this resolved :s12:

con-seller: trydx @ carousel
 

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thanks guys... the buyer had liaise with other victims to report this matter to the police... hope they can get this resolved :s12:

con-seller: trydx @ carousel

Hopefully the police classify it as a cheating case and investigate the matter...Good luck...
 

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I have always say this, if both the seller and buyer is in Singapore, never ever transfer money to the bank account of the seller and always ask for Cash on delivery...You have zero recourse after transferring the money should the seller decide not to honour his side of the deal..if you file a police report, the police will ask you to file civil suit if you want to get back your money..Other than a lot of buyers file the police report together and the police classify it as a cheating case, there is pretty much nothing you can do once you have transferred the money over...

If both buyer and seller is in Singapore, there is absolutely zero reason that Cash on Delivery cannot be done...If the seller insists on payment first, only accept payment by PayPal for the buyers protection and nothing else..

If all buyers boycott this kind of seller who insist on payment via bank transfer, they will perhaps agree to Cash on delivery to sell their items and will safeguard both the buyers and sellers interest...

Actually I think this is fine as long as the seller has a local bank account. He/She can be track down easily after filing a police report.

After saying this. I think our "home team" do nothing if this is a single case or small amount.
 

makav31i

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Actually I think this is fine as long as the seller has a local bank account. He/She can be track down easily after filing a police report.

After saying this. I think our "home team" do nothing if this is a single case or small amount.

Have you tried filing police report for such cases? If you did, the police will tell you that it is a personal dispute and advice you to file civil suit if you want to get back your money.

This is like Voluntarily Causing Hurt under Section 323 where someone can come up to you and punch you in the face and the police will not arrest the person and advice you to file Magistrate Complain if you want to pursue the matter.

So the best way is not to be a victim in the first place and boycott all sellers in Singapore who demands bank transfer...
 

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Beware of preferred / power seller scam

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/man-arrested-for-cheating-more-than-175-000-impersonation-scam-13703874
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updates from my friend who is dept purchaser doing import /export of household items.
A supplier email her and offer a great below market wholesale price. Also attach L/C from the direct manufacturer / factory / brands. My friend check and saw supplier/ reseller hv gd ratings / reviews & has high visibility as power / preferred seller

Strangely supplier / reseller doesn't require MoQ and deal in USD bank transfer only. Even though Product is frm China & cheaper transaction in RMB or SGD. My friend wechat the supplier official website and send business card to confirm. The staff canot verify the reseller but LC is real and date /order no. Is valid. My friend cancel the order & reported the reseller account as fraud.

Pls do due diligence chk new supplier company finance dept if supplier email is valid
If email authorized to accept recvd / payable transaction. If possible ask for sample.
Pay for shipping only. Pay for unit item when item received & tested ok.
 
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