Overseas fixed deposit - case closed

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Hi there,

My parent whom is a boomer made a wrong choice of doing a fixed deposit in a foreign Australia Bank. I don't know the head and tail as that time I was very young.
The bank branch is in Australia.
1) Can the money be withdrawn directly to and remitted to Singapore
2) The account is a joint account, can the money be withdraw with one person. Need to fly to Australia?

Got some difficulty contacting by their phone (need some identification or so)

The bank is Westpac Australia.
 
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Hi there,

My parent whom is a boomer made a wrong choice of doing a fixed deposit in a foreign Australia Bank. I don't know the head and tail as that time I was very young.
your parents went over to open a bank account there and put a FD for that long?
The bank branch is in Australia.
1) Can the money be withdrawn directly to and remitted to Singapore
Depending on the bank. have you checked with the bank?
2) The account is a joint account, can the money be withdraw with one person. Need to fly to Australia?
Depending on if it is joint alternate. as the bank?
Got some difficulty contacting by their phone (need some identification or so)
If they can't help you without identification, i mean really nobody can help you here.

we don't even know what bank you talking about. so everything is just guessing
 

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Hi there,

My parent whom is a boomer made a wrong choice of doing a fixed deposit in a foreign Australia Bank. I don't know the head and tail as that time I was very young.
The bank branch is in Australia.
1) Can the money be withdrawn directly to and remitted to Singapore
2) The account is a joint account, can the money be withdraw with one person. Need to fly to Australia?

Got some difficulty contacting by their phone (need some identification or so)
If the balance is substantial or significant to write off, better settle it asap while the joint account holders are still alive and able. It will be more difficult should they expire without notice, or become impaired or suffer from dementia. When was the account/s opened and any bank statements from the beginning, if necessary. Find out all the details and write to the bank and ask what is needed to close the account without account holders' presence. The holders' identification could be passport number and number has changed since then. You may need to show the expired passport. If the account has been classified as dormant you may face more obstacles. The easiest is for your parents to go for holidays in Australia and take the time to close the account.

My bank in Malaysia need me to be present for closing of account and it cannot be done at any branch except that branch in JB that I opened the account. The bank levy yearly fee for dormant account. I explained it's dormant due to border closure. They refused to waive the fee. Then I tried withdrawal by ATM but the account has been frozen. Butoh.

I also have a passbook account with another bank that had been dormant for years and I tried to withdraw from ATM but could not. I went to a branch that said my account has been freezed and subject to monthly deduction and all info were sent to head office in KL and bloody hell, they cut my passbook. I had to go KL to resolve the matter whether closing or reactivating the account. I wrote off the account with about RM900 (exchange rate was 1.85 that time). The forms and instructions were all in Malay :mad: Another butoh.
 
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Back then there was a premier service that allow opening of account from SG but it closes down

1. When withdrawing money it requires a BSB account number (only applicable to Australia) (if there is a way let me know)
2. I cannot open a saving account because it needs an Australia address (with saving account it can do international payment)
3. So the only way now is go there physically.
4. Is there a service in Australia that can remit money back to Singapore by entering BSB number
5. I am thinking of using my relative Australian bank account to remit money back to Singapore. Because opening Australia Bank account requires an Australian address.
 
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Back then there was a premier service that allow opening of account from SG but it closes down

1. When withdrawing money it requires a BSB account number (only applicable to Australia) (if there is a way let me know)
2. I cannot open a saving account because it needs an Australia address (with saving account it can do international payment)
3. So the only way now is go there physically.
4. Is there a service in Australia that can remit money back to Singapore by entering BSB number
5. I am thinking of using my relative Australian bank account to remit money back to Singapore. Because opening Australia Bank account requires an Australian address.
It does not seem like you have reached out to the bank who is the only party that can facilitate things.

have you tried? Ask them what they can do for you first?
 

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It does not seem like you have reached out to the bank who is the only party that can facilitate things.

have you tried? Ask them what they can do for you first?
I already called them, if not I won't be able to list down the above point. The lady on the call who took more than 10mins to pick up say need to go to pay option.

1.Pay option = saving account that can do international payment and remittance
2.Term deposit = withdrawal require BSB account, which is the saving account.

BSB account (only meant for Australian bank), swift code is for Singapore. Furthermore closing of term deposit required 31 days notice. Getting more complicated
 

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My parent whom is a boomer made a wrong choice of doing a fixed deposit in a foreign Australia Bank. I don't know the head and tail as that time I was very young.
The bank branch is in Australia.
I'm assuming this fixed deposit has auto-renewed. When is the next maturity date?

Think first about what these funds would be used for, and where, and when. ("What's the rush?" basically.) For example, if these Australian dollars are earning decent or better interest until the maturity date then it probably makes sense to provide instructions to the bank to stop the auto-renewal and to transfer the funds when the fixed deposit matures to another account via Australian domestic fund transfer (BSB number; see below). Otherwise a premature withdrawal penalty would apply, presumably, and that's no fun.
1) Can the money be withdrawn directly to and remitted to Singapore
2) The account is a joint account, can the money be withdraw with one person. Need to fly to Australia?
It depends on whether the account is "Either to Sign" or "All to Sign." Both types are offered in Australia (from what I've read). It's obviously easier if it's an "Either to Sign" account.
Back then there was a premier service that allow opening of account from SG but it closes down
1. When withdrawing money it requires a BSB account number (only applicable to Australia) (if there is a way let me know)
2. I cannot open a saving account because it needs an Australia address (with saving account it can do international payment)
3. So the only way now is go there physically.
4. Is there a service in Australia that can remit money back to Singapore by entering BSB number
5. I am thinking of using my relative Australian bank account to remit money back to Singapore. Because opening Australia Bank account requires an Australian address.
There are a couple ways I know of to receive the Australia dollars directly (as a domestic transfer), convert them to Singapore dollars (I assume), then remit them to a bank account in Singapore (I also assume) — all without visiting Australia unless this particular fixed deposit holding institution requires it. Please note that this'll need to be "first party" all the way through. The person who holds either of the accounts I'm about to describe, and the bank account in Singapore, must be the same person as one of the account holders of this Australian fixed deposit.

1. If this person has an Interactive Brokers LLC (U.S.) brokerage account, or can open one, then Interactive Brokers can provide the domestic Australian fund transfer details (including BSB number) to receive the Australian dollars. The cost of currency conversion is super low (US$2 flat fee, global spot rate), and one free withdrawal per calendar month is allowed. Set the account's base currency to Singapore dollars (SGD), convert the Australian dollars to Singapore dollars, wait a few business days for the residual Australian dollars to be auto-converted to SGD and for the funds to settle, then make the withdrawal.

2. If this person has a Schwab brokerage account (any country), or can open one, then Schwab provides Australian fund transfer details (including BSB number) to receive Australian dollars into this person's Schwab account. Schwab will then instantly auto-convert the Australian dollars to U.S. dollars, and then they can be invested or otherwise transferred onward. The exchange rate is fairly reasonable, and there's no additional fee at least to the point of receiving the funds at Schwab.

3. If this person has a Wise Multi Currency Account (formerly called a Borderless Account), or can open one, then Wise provides Australian fund transfer details (including BSB number) to receive Australian dollars into this person's Wise account. Wise can convert the Australian dollars to Singapore dollars, although the conversion rate likely won't be as good as Schwab's and definitely won't be as good as IB's. The Singapore dollars can then be transferred to this person's bank account in Singapore.
 

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Wise has BSB code to receive money. So transfer to wise, then convert to SGD within Wise.
 

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Back then there was a premier service that allow opening of account from SG but it closes down

1. When withdrawing money it requires a BSB account number (only applicable to Australia) (if there is a way let me know)
2. I cannot open a saving account because it needs an Australia address (with saving account it can do international payment)
3. So the only way now is go there physically.
4. Is there a service in Australia that can remit money back to Singapore by entering BSB number
5. I am thinking of using my relative Australian bank account to remit money back to Singapore. Because opening Australia Bank account requires an Australian address.
This is not 100% true. It is definitely possible to have a non Australian address on an Australian bank account.

Depending on the bank, it might be possible to set the withdrawal instruction to cheque, bank draft, or telegraphic transfer.

Since you don't tell us which Australian bank, it's hard to know whether any of these applies to you.
 

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why take out??
Aust bank FD is so much higher and i think ccy is really cheap now, on the relative value basis, it might go up once the war is over.
SGD FD is 3.5%, AUS is around 5% (with ccy appreciation)
if i am you, in fact i am thinking of going to Aus set up bank acc sia
 

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why take out??
Aust bank FD is so much higher and i think ccy is really cheap now, on the relative value basis, it might go up once the war is over.
SGD FD is 3.5%, AUS is around 5% (with ccy appreciation)
if i am you, in fact i am thinking of going to Aus set up bank acc sia
they might as well put AUD FD locally. may not be as good as overseas, but good alternative
 

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Maybe try this: get your parents to call the bank and ask whether can reset the authentication number and PIN . Of course they will at least ask some questions to authenticate their identity.
If can get new authentication number and PIN, then call and tell them to remit the money to Singapore bank account . If you want in Singapore $$, the conversion will be done for you.
 

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To continue from my above post : if you need to open a savings account, I think once you already have the authentication number etc , you should be able to instruct them to open one for you.
 

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This is not 100% true. It is definitely possible to have a non Australian address on an Australian bank account.

Depending on the bank, it might be possible to set the withdrawal instruction to cheque, bank draft, or telegraphic transfer.

Since you don't tell us which Australian bank, it's hard to know whether any of these applies to you.

The bank is Westpac Australia., Updated. By the way, the FD rate now is only 0.25%. the problem about withdrawing is if this a joint alternate account or joint account where multiple people need to be present.
 
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