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Hi,

Needed some advise. Saw that there are people out there who trade options and managed to get monthly returns (aka passive income). How true is this possible and any advise on how to go about doing it?

On the other hand, any other ways to be able to get passive income perhaps with some investments?
 

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based on ur questions, i suggest u do some reading on the basics first.. otherwise u will jus end up getting scammed into those get rich quick schemes.
 

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Hi,

Needed some advise. Saw that there are people out there who trade options and managed to get monthly returns (aka passive income). How true is this possible and any advise on how to go about doing it?

On the other hand, any other ways to be able to get passive income perhaps with some investments?

If you need to trade, then it's obviously not passive.
 

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Do you manage to review their yearly / monthly trading report to see how profitable they are? Or they just show you few profitable trades?

Just remember - no pain no gain. How painful you get depends on how much preparation you do before you jump into the game.

In trading world, I guess it is fair to say that only <1% trader is able to be consistently profitable, I once dreamt the be the 1% :s22:

Hi,

Needed some advise. Saw that there are people out there who trade options and managed to get monthly returns (aka passive income). How true is this possible and any advise on how to go about doing it?

On the other hand, any other ways to be able to get passive income perhaps with some investments?
 

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"Passive income is income resulting from cash flow received on a regular basis, requiring minimal to no effort by the recipient to maintain it"

"trading: the action or activity of buying and selling goods and services."

If you don't see the contradiction between these two terms, my suggestion: quickly go sign up for a trading/options/leveraged platform and pump in all your money.

(because the faster you learn these painful lessons, the more time you have to recover and build your knowledge/skills. Better to lose $10k at 25 (and learn) than $100k at 40 (and regret)"
 

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based on ur questions, i suggest u do some reading on the basics first.. otherwise u will jus end up getting scammed into those get rich quick schemes.

exactly. paid sch fees to learn this after graduation.....:(:(
 

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Thanks all for the advise. I also doubt the passive income by trading, which is why am seeking if there are other ways.

Reason for asking is as u am currently holding on to a full time job, but wanted to come out to start my own business. However it will be difficult especially for the first few years whereby the business may not make money, so am thinking if there's any actual ways or investments to actually earn passive income (no need a lot, just substantial for me to live by while I start my business)

Thanks
 

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Most options Traders sell options and collect the premium hoping it will expire worthless

It's not a passive income as it still takes up your time
 

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Thanks all for the advise. I also doubt the passive income by trading, which is why am seeking if there are other ways.

Reason for asking is as u am currently holding on to a full time job, but wanted to come out to start my own business. However it will be difficult especially for the first few years whereby the business may not make money, so am thinking if there's any actual ways or investments to actually earn passive income (no need a lot, just substantial for me to live by while I start my business)

Thanks
Mm even investing, buy and hold is not rly passive. Trading is def not passive

Risk free can see gov bonds, like ssb. Anything else nd to read abit (or alot)

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Investing and doing business is equally challenging in my opinion. Also, since you will most likely throw most of your funds into business, this leave you with little capital for investing.

Choose one and go for it, focus to get it running within the shortest possible time.

Thanks all for the advise. I also doubt the passive income by trading, which is why am seeking if there are other ways.

Reason for asking is as u am currently holding on to a full time job, but wanted to come out to start my own business. However it will be difficult especially for the first few years whereby the business may not make money, so am thinking if there's any actual ways or investments to actually earn passive income (no need a lot, just substantial for me to live by while I start my business)

Thanks
 

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DCA etfs can be completely passive if one wants
Yes, and the exchange-traded funds (or mutual funds, or both) can be low cost, passively managed index funds.

The "low cost" part is tough if you want something totally hands off. For example, DBS/POSB has a savings program called Invest-Saver, but only one Singapore stock ETF is available. There's also a 1% charge to buy that ETF, excluding the fund manger's annual charges. So you're paying an awful lot, and have very limited choices, for that convenience. If you're willing to log onto a low cost broker's Web site reliably once a month to execute your dollar cost averaging program, you're all set. Spend about 10 minutes once per month, and you'll get much lower costs and much better fund choices.
 

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Always remember, there are no express way to riches.

Don't expect to grow your wealth immediately when investing. Set your expectations and mindset right at the start first if not you will just be swayed and eventually lose money.

A decent and stable passive income takes years and years to build.

What others are able to achieve may not necessarily be the same for you. Best to learn some investment basics and see where you can start things off before venturing further.
 

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invest into low risk high return stocks and sit tight

no need to every day trade in and out
 

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Yes, and the exchange-traded funds (or mutual funds, or both) can be low cost, passively managed index funds.

The "low cost" part is tough if you want something totally hands off. For example, DBS/POSB has a savings program called Invest-Saver, but only one Singapore stock ETF is available. There's also a 1% charge to buy that ETF, excluding the fund manger's annual charges. So you're paying an awful lot, and have very limited choices, for that convenience. If you're willing to log onto a low cost broker's Web site reliably once a month to execute your dollar cost averaging program, you're all set. Spend about 10 minutes once per month, and you'll get much lower costs and much better fund choices.

No such thing exist in Singapore to invest in the local bourse. The lowest minimum brokerage fee is $10 without any promotions, which requires the montly quantum to be >= $1000 for the brokerage cost to be cheaper than 1%.

You can't invest in local shares using IB.
 

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No such thing exist in Singapore to invest in the local bourse.
First of all, who said anything about "the local bourse"? Singapore is tiny. It would violate every reasonable, rational portfolio diversification principle to invest only or predominantly in Singapore headquartered companies, especially with CPF in the picture. SGX realizes that, too, which is why the "local bourse" offers lots of non-local ETFs. You can and should seek low total costs, consistent with reasonable investment objectives.

You can't invest in local shares using IB.
Who said anything about IB specifically?

However, as it happens, yes you can! Symbol 3065, traded on the Hong Kong Exchange, is one way to do that. Symbol EWS, traded on the New York Stock Exchange, is another. Those two are pure play Singapore ETFs, investing only in Singapore listed/headquartered companies. They're exactly analogous to STI-based stock index funds traded on the SGX. I don't recommend either ETF, but they exist.

What I do recommend, if you want ample exposure to Singapore (and some exposure is appropriate, I think), is to consider a more diversified fund as part of your portfolio -- an ASEAN-oriented ETF, for example. There are several such options traded on various exchanges, locally and overseas. ASEAN-oriented ETFs have a lot of Singapore in them, but they don't only have Singapore. One "reasonable" approach if you want to overweight Singapore would be to combine an ASEAN-oriented ETF with a global developed markets-oriented ETF. Always with low total costs in mind.

Rewinding a bit, all I said is "low cost broker." I didn't specify whether that broker is in Singapore or elsewhere, and I didn't recommend any particular funds, equities, or other investment vehicles. But, now that you ask, I suggest looking for the best deals worldwide, consistent with reasonable, rational investment objective principles, notably portfolio diversification.
 
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