PC noob here, need help deciding between Mansa ,Aftershock vs Dreamcore

[Luffyace]

Hi all, thinking of getting a new PC

Looked around online at Mansa and Aftershock and Dreamcore caught my eye, but which one do you all think is more value for money?


Highlights
Brand: dreamcore
Ryzen 5 5600X
PSU-CORSAIR-CXSERIES-CX750M-SEMI-MODULAR
MSI X570S Tomahawk Wifi
Dreamcore Nebula 240 AIO RGB Liquid Cooler
MSI RTX 3070 Ti Gaming X Trio 8G
1TB FireCuda 530 SSD
16GB (2X8GB) Crucial 3600MHZ

$2020


Brand : Mansa
Processor: Ryzen 5 5600X (Recommended)
Motherboard (Pre-Selected): Asus B550M-A Prime Wi-Fi & Bluetooth
Cooler: ID Cooling SE226-XT - Black Air Cooler
Graphics Card: Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB - Galax
Storage - SSD: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB Gen.4 SSD (R:7000/W:5000)
Storage - HDD: No HDD
Ram: Kingston RGB Fury Beast 16 GB 3600 MHz (Recommended)
Power Supply (Pre-Selected): Silverstone VA 750 W 80+ Gold
Case: Tecware Forge M (4 ARGB Fans) - Black
Operating System: Un-Activated Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
RGB Fans: 4 ARGB Fans Included
Custom Sleeved Cables: No Custom Sleeved Cables

$2,140.00



LEVEL 7 AMD | R7 5800X + RTX 3070TI

Processor : AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X
Cooling System : AFTERSHOCK Glacier Series 240mm Watercooling
Motherboard : GIGABYTE B550M DS3H
Graphics Card : ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3070TI TRINITY OC 8GB
Ram : 16GB KLEVV CRAS X RGB 3600MHz DDR4 (8GB x 2)
SSD : 1TB AFTERSHOCK HYPERSPEED Gen4 NVMe SSD
Power Supply : 800W FSP HYDRO PRO 80+ Bronze
Wireless : Wireless + Bluetooth Included
Chassis : RAPID High Airflow Mesh Chassis
CABLE SLEEVES : None
Warranty : 3 Years Warranty (1st Year Onsite Pickup and Return)

$2150



Or if you have other better lobangs, feel free to share also

 

[KYZT2021]

Can take a look at MSI build at the bottom

https://sg.msi.com/Promotion/restocked-reloaded/graphics-cards

 

[Phen8210]

Hi all, thinking of getting a new PC

Or if you have other better lobangs, feel free to share also

Won't recommend getting prebuilt from them as they tend to have questionable components and configuration. They are middlemen of another 2 middlemen, and profit margin is their priority.

You can get something like that. This is based on SLS Dynacore pricelist. You can get shops like Dynacore, PC Themes, Fuwell to build for you.

CPU + MB	MSI B660M-A + 12400F	$470	Good combo for the price. B660M-A allows upgrading to 12700 in the future if required.
GPU	Asus Tuf Gaming RTX3070Ti O8GB V2 OC Triple Fan	$1065	One of the best triple fan options.
CPU COOLER	Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B	$83	A great cooler that can also cool a 12700F. A no-brainer. Performs better than questionable 240mm AIO.
PSU	Superflower Leadex III 750W	$145	Good quality PSU has a proven track record in durability and provides room for future upgrades.
SSD	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB	$187	Good quality SSD with a proven track record in durability
RAM	16 GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS V 3600Mhz CL18	$98	Won't go wrong
CASE	Phanteks G360A Black Mesh DRGB Airflow TG	$138	New case in the market, great value and reputable brand.

$2186

Quality of parts are far superior to the rigs they quoted you, better in the long run.

 

[NightRaven49]

i would personally stay far far away from aftershock, as their qc and after sales support are horror stories in their own right. not heard much bad things about dreamcore and mansa, so i would assume that theirs are far better. mansa does have somewhat expensive builds compared to the competition, and this is no exception. not only is the dreamcore build the cheapest, the mobo and gpu are good quality ones, perhaps even better than what phen8210 has suggested in his list, while those offered by aftershock and mansa are pretty subpar: the mobos may throttle and/or run very hot with higher end cpus should u choose to upgrade in the future and the cards are the budget models. while the dreamcore psu isnt great, it is at least still better than the ones offered by the other 2 si. the 5600x will be faster than the 12400f as suggested by phen, and u will probably be overpaying for the 5800x in the aftershock build.

tldr go for dreamcore, though if possible do try to upgrade the psu to a known good one, eg tier a or b in this list. asking sls shops to build as suggested by phen is also a good idea as u can save some money and have more flexibility in part selection, though u have to be sure of what u want and have to ownself troubleshoot/rma if anything goes wrong.

 

[obichacha]

Actually self diy build has more benefits to learn for troubleshooting.
Unless u prefer brands like Alienware or Lenovo.
Others than that do u installation your own.
Buy parts from Shopee and Lazada have more discount due to 8.8 is coming soon

 

[Yongkit]

Won't recommend getting prebuilt from them as they tend to have questionable components and configuration. They are middlemen of another 2 middlemen, and profit margin is their priority.

You can get something like that. This is based on SLS Dynacore pricelist. You can get shops like Dynacore, PC Themes, Fuwell to build for you.

CPU + MB	MSI B660M-A + 12400F	$470	Good combo for the price. B660M-A allows upgrading to 12700 in the future if required.
GPU	Asus Tuf Gaming RTX3070Ti O8GB V2 OC Triple Fan	$1065	One of the best triple fan options.
CPU COOLER	Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B	$83	A great cooler that can also cool a 12700F. A no-brainer. Performs better than questionable 240mm AIO.
PSU	Superflower Leadex III 750W	$145	Good quality PSU has a proven track record in durability and provides room for future upgrades.
SSD	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB	$187	Good quality SSD with a proven track record in durability
RAM	16 GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS V 3600Mhz CL18	$98	Won't go wrong
CASE	Phanteks G360A Black Mesh DRGB Airflow TG	$138	New case in the market, great value and reputable brand.

$2186

Quality of parts are far superior to the rigs they quoted you, better in the long run.

Any AM4 system parts recommend as optional since TS all 3 quote was in Ryzen ?

 

[NightRaven49]

Any AM4 system parts recommend as optional since TS all 3 quote was in Ryzen ?

dynacore also offers the 5600 non x + msi b550m pro vdh wifi for the same price as the intel combo, should be very similar in gaming performance.

 

[zacky1223]

can consider pckaki also i intro 2 of my friend's build to them

 

[Yongkit]

dynacore also offers the 5600 non x + msi b550m pro vdh wifi for the same price as the intel combo, should be very similar in gaming performance.

if TS gaming at 1440p or 4k I believe so with minimum gaming performance differences since mostly will be gpu bound.

 

[_DeS__]

DC's motherboard and graphic card offering thrash the other 2. The other components close 1 eye since aftersales service provided. If need to choose between the 3 options it's quite a no brainer, price also better. But this is HWZ forum, u give option 1 2 3, but people will tell u to go for option 4 = DIY

 

[obichacha]

Actually how bad of aftershocks service ?
Don’t have experience with them before

can someone explain

 

[NightRaven49]

Actually how bad of aftershocks service ?
Don’t have experience with them before

can someone explain

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/very-poor-after-service-from-aftershock.6511251/https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/sianz-my-aftershock-laptop-got-fried.6757220/

 

[Goodshot]

DC's motherboard and graphic card offering thrash the other 2. The other components close 1 eye since aftersales service provided. If need to choose between the 3 options it's quite a no brainer, price also better. But this is HWZ forum, u give option 1 2 3, but people will tell u to go for option 4 = DIY

DIY doesnt mean u have to install urself , we provide the best price for bang list and then he can just go shop will install everything swee swee . The same amount of $$ spend but u get the best setup , thats what DIY do

 

[Phen8210]

the 5600x will be faster than the 12400f as suggested by phen, and u will probably be overpaying for the 5800x in the aftershock build.

tldr go for dreamcore, though if possible do try to upgrade the psu to a known good one, eg tier a or b in this list. asking sls shops to build as suggested by phen is also a good idea as u can save some money and have more flexibility in part selection, though u have to be sure of what u want and have to ownself troubleshoot/rma if anything goes wrong.

5600x is not faster than 12400f. 12400 has around 20% more total CPU resources. The single core is also faster.

The X570 mobo is indeed better. But for a simple system build usually no point in going for a high-end board.

In terms of GPU, TUF gaming OC has a slight edge over the MSI gaming X Trio for GPU in all things that matter. Anyway, Dynacore has the MSI Gaming X Trio OC variant, and that costs $1029, which is cheaper (-$36) than the TUF Gaming OC, it can be considered as well.

The image below shows stock cooling performance for RTX 3080. In OC Quiet Bios, the results are equivalent. But in stock settings, the TUF gaming is superior even against MSI suprim.



In the 3080 variants, the TUF Gaming OC also had higher max power limits and vrm capabilities. For typical usage, it doesn't really matter. Just sharing.

Spoiler

Overall, both are okay, I picked TUF for better cooling.

 

[Phen8210]

Actually how bad of aftershocks service ?
Don’t have experience with them before

can someone explain

Bad products lead to overload in servicing, resulting in bad services.

 

[Phen8210]

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/sianz-my-aftershock-laptop-got-fried.6757220/

The laptop fried one is standard, and they will do everything they can to remove such posts on FB and Google reviews.

 

[NightRaven49]

5600x is not faster than 12400f. 12400 has around 20% more total CPU resources. The single core is also faster.

12400f is a little slower than the 5600x in gaming, about 6%. in productivity, they are basically neck and neck.

The X570 mobo is indeed better. But for a simple system build usually no point in going for a high-end board.

well of the 3 systems to choose from in ts, it is in the cheapest build (even cheaper than ur suggested diy build), so why not?

 

[obichacha]

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/very-poor-after-service-from-aftershock.6511251/https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/sianz-my-aftershock-laptop-got-fried.6757220/

Laptop and monitor not done by them, should avoid to buying in future.
Desktop is diy installation by them. Those warranty can cover by the supplier.
If they’re busy didn’t send to warranty, you guys Gg, have to wait.

my suggestion is diy build by own.
don’t know how to build , can learn from YouTube or ask somebody here.
Part failed can refer to seller for RMA.

 

[zacky1223]

I also feel just DIY build yourself. They can promise like oh help you with warranty but never know. In the end, you are still on your own. Just do yourself and claim warranty yourself easier. You don't need to rely on their response.

I had so many screw-ups on my first build way back but it's actually fun opening up the new boxes and start fixing yourself. And like what others suggest, YouTube is your best friend. And if you don't know anything there's hwz, Reddit etc can look up information or ask or even telegrams that are for PC technical enquiries.

You have so much information that you don't actually need help from these PC builders tbh. I feel people who go to them are really lazy to research and know nothing about PC and just let them build. Not wrong but just that I feel there are better alternatives la and case save more if you buy parts from big sale like 9.9,11.11 etc.

 

[KleoZy]

I also feel just DIY build yourself. They can promise like oh help you with warranty but never know. In the end, you are still on your own. Just do yourself and claim warranty yourself easier. You don't need to rely on their response.

I had so many screw-ups on my first build way back but it's actually fun opening up the new boxes and start fixing yourself. And like what others suggest, YouTube is your best friend. And if you don't know anything there's hwz, Reddit etc can look up information or ask or even telegrams that are for PC technical enquiries.

You have so much information that you don't actually need help from these PC builders tbh. I feel people who go to them are really lazy to research and know nothing about PC and just let them build. Not wrong but just that I feel there are better alternatives la and case save more if you buy parts from big sale like 9.9,11.11 etc.

fully agree

I ain't perfect but something TS might want to try out.

Spoiler: PC Building for beginners