Pentium and Celeron CPUs?

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A few years ago in SLS, many computer part shops sold Pentium CPUs. A few even sold Celeron CPUs if I remember correctly.

Today, I don't see shops in SLS selling Pentium and Celeron CPUs anymore. Minimum is i3. How come?

I'm disappointed because Intel i3 costs significantly more than Intel Pentium. :(

Update: Intel removed the Pentium and Celeron brand in 2023, and replaced it with "Intel Processor".
 
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A few years ago in SLS, many computer part shops sold Pentium CPUs. A few even sold Celeron CPUs if I remember correctly.

Today, I don't see shops in SLS selling Pentium and Celeron CPUs anymore. Minimum is i3. How come?

I'm disappointed because Intel i3 costs significantly more than Intel Pentium. :(

Pentium gold lo....
 
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A few years ago in SLS, many computer part shops sold Pentium CPUs. A few even sold Celeron CPUs if I remember correctly.

Today, I don't see shops in SLS selling Pentium and Celeron CPUs anymore. Minimum is i3. How come?

I'm disappointed because Intel i3 costs significantly more than Intel Pentium. :(

AMD Quad Core too cheap liao.
Dual Core Intel jiak sai already.
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yeah for cheaper builds, I too will advise going for the amd side.
 

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you can buy n4100/j4005/j4105/j4115 desktop for less than $300. add a bit more can diy ryzen apu. or just buy ready made for less than $600.
 

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I think you are right. Neither Intel nor AMD have focused on their budget processors for a number of years now. For Intel, they were forced to compete on price and at this point, you can probably find an i3 processor that is decently priced and thus, negates the need for a lower end chip. In the past, the jump from Pentium to i3 commands a significant price premium just for a bigger cache, HT, boost clock and higher clockspeed.
 

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There's no demand therefore there's no supply.

Yes, the cheapest i3 10100 costs 50% (!!!) more than the same generation Celeron, but the actual numerical difference is just $40 or $50. Pentium Gold is literally the same price as the 10100. Now, why would you spend the same money to get less CPU? Even if you compare to the Celeron, $50 over say 5 years (I'm assuming a budget user is not planning to change CPU every year), is just $10 a year or 80 cents a month. 80 cents a month for a much better performance? I'll take that any day.

The i3 10100 is a truly great value CPU. The first i3 to feature hyperthreading and with 4 cores/8 threads is effectively equivalent to the i7 7700K. I have tried the 10100 myself and at $140 - $150, I'll take it any day for building super budget PC, altho I'd rather recommend the 6 core 10400, unless the $60 difference really is impossible.

I do agree tho that super budget builds would benefit from AMD APUs since you can skip the graphics card and still play some mainstream games at decent quality on the Vega APU, but the Intel iGPU is really only good for watching videos and very low intensive gaming
 
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Those people who keep touting 'just buy the i3' completely cannot see beyond their own nose.

Why should people have to spend money on a 65w processor when a < 10w variant is enough to do what they want?
 

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Those people who keep touting 'just buy the i3' completely cannot see beyond their own nose.

Why should people have to spend money on a 65w processor when a < 10w variant is enough to do what they want?

Apple m1 cpu only 10w and can exceed i3.

Pentium n celeron future very bleak....
 

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Those people who keep touting 'just buy the i3' completely cannot see beyond their own nose.

Why should people have to spend money on a 65w processor when a < 10w variant is enough to do what they want?

What is this 10W variant? I'd love to learn more about it :)
 

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A few years ago in SLS, many computer part shops sold Pentium CPUs. A few even sold Celeron CPUs if I remember correctly.

Today, I don't see shops in SLS selling Pentium and Celeron CPUs anymore. Minimum is i3. How come?

I'm disappointed because Intel i3 costs significantly more than Intel Pentium. :(

You can still get from taobao and some back alley shops in SLS.

You can even find some low powered U and T series CPU in Taobao.

Do check it out.
 

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Those people who keep touting 'just buy the i3' completely cannot see beyond their own nose.

Why should people have to spend money on a 65w processor when a < 10w variant is enough to do what they want?

I think you are referring to the Pentium and Celeron Silver, and not the "Gold" version used for desktops since you mentioned below 10W. I think whether to get an i3 or Pentium/ Celeron Silver really depends on individual's use case. Pentium/ Celeron Silver are not a good fit for processing heavy work. Also, I don't believe the i3 really draws 65W in most cases.
 

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Many years ago, when mini PCs were still a new think (think NUC had not come out yet? I didn't hear of it at that time) I bought one of those Asus mini box things, the first gen of those if I'm not wrong. It had a Celeron processor and I though it would be a good choice as a simple media PC for my parents. But the thing was so crazily slow. Loading Windows (Win 7 I think) took several minutes, and even after you logged in, it would be laggy. Even mainstream laptops of the day performed better. I hated the thing, it was more frustrating to use it than the benefit it offered. Barely used it, few years later wrote it off as a bad purchase.

Now, I know that computing power and CPUs have improved much since then, and what's low end today can possibly still perform decently for mainstream computing tasks like browsing, media, spreadsheets etc. But the universal truth in computing remains that you get what you pay for, and higher performance requires higher energy. It's just nature at work, no going around it. Whether one thinks the price premium is worth it, of course is subjective and it depends on what you're going to use it for, but the principle remains valid.

End of the day, your PC should serve you, not frustrate you. If it is within my means, I'd rather pay a bit more for a more comfortable experience, than scrimp and end up unhappy with the thing. Not sure what TS' intended use is for Pentium/Celeron CPUs, or it's just a commentary, but yeah, as I mentioned in my first post, the likely answer why shops don't carry these anymore is simply no demand, combined probably with low profit margins.
 

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This cpu ppl buy is update bios on older ryzen mobo.

U meant People buy this CPU to update bios on the B450 boards ? maybe....

But, this a more competent CPU compares to intel atoms/celeron, plus low power consumption. It can be a good candidate for building nas servers or pfsense router? if you can pair with a cheap board...
 
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