Pentium and Celeron CPUs?

[claypot_king]

Since when we can buy a low cost m1 chip and do diy ?? He was talking Abt getting a cheap processor

Because this is the 1st time arm can match x64 processor in general computing workload.

Maybe 5 years down the road, we could see arm based soc like raspberry pi improve to a point that is actually usable for general productivity.

 

[abyzab]

A few years ago in SLS, many computer part shops sold Pentium CPUs. A few even sold Celeron CPUs if I remember correctly.

Today, I don't see shops in SLS selling Pentium and Celeron CPUs anymore. Minimum is i3. How come?

I'm disappointed because Intel i3 costs significantly more than Intel Pentium.

I draw a usability line based on my requirements at that time then find the CPU that can best match it. NOT the other way round.

Early days, IBM XT and 286 and clones cannot match so I never follow the craze to buy.

Finally 386 came out and can barely meet my needs. I bought one set for $5000 with 4MB ram and FPU for Autocad.
THEN 486, then Celeron 300A.
As CPU crept up the usability line, I can buy cheaper and cheaper CPU.
I don't game so not interested in graphics card.
Right now, Pentium Gold is already far above my usability line and I bought one set for only $300.

Make sure to buy SSD and as much ram as you can afford for future proofing. More ram may not improve your system much but less ram will virtually cripple your system later - the Apple syndrome.

 

[cscs3]

Because this is the 1st time arm can match x64 processor in general computing workload.

Maybe 5 years down the road, we could see arm based soc like raspberry pi improve to a point that is actually usable for general productivity.

You are assuming those x64 processor will make no improvement in the next 5 years?

 

[claypot_king]

You are assuming those x64 processor will make no improvement in the next 5 years?

I am making a bet that arm soc would improve to a point that they would replace 'low powered' x64 as the choice of platform for project that require some sort of heavy lifting.

Like pfsense, nas, web servers, etc.

 

[fbm051h89]

S$66 for new retail boxed 2C 4T 35W processor, OK?

Yup, no problem for normal use.

 

[fbm051h89]

Because this is the 1st time arm can match x64 processor in general computing workload.

Maybe 5 years down the road, we could see arm based soc like raspberry pi improve to a point that is actually usable for general productivity.

IMHO, I won't be surprised to see ARM processors replacing x86. Given Apple's financial power, they could drive ARM as x86 replacement. They could even buy over Ampere and develop ARM cpus for servers.

 

[watzup_ken]

This cpu ppl buy is update bios on older ryzen mobo.

It is a perfectly usable CPU in my opinion, and not meant only for the purpose of flashing BIOS. It may not pack the processing power of 4, 6, 8, 12, or 16 core processors, but its actually good enough for most people in their day to day light/ multimedia usage.

 

[watzup_ken]

Because this is the 1st time arm can match x64 processor in general computing workload.

Maybe 5 years down the road, we could see arm based soc like raspberry pi improve to a point that is actually usable for general productivity.

In my opinion, a Raspberry Pi 4 is already capable of providing decent performance for light usage using the Raspberry OS, i.e. word processing, net surfing, multimedia use, etc... It all boils down to expectation, i.e. are you ok with just enough processing power, or do you want a significantly more powerful system.

I am not very optimistic about ARM SOCs making much progress on Windows. Qualcomm have been trying for years to penetrate the Intel/ AMD dominance in the x86, Windows space but not getting much traction. Perhaps the ARM chips then are not powerful enough at that point in time, but I feel it is also largely because they don't have the luxury of having a tight hardware and software integration like Apple. So for ARM chips to take off on Windows, it may take a much longer time, either for the hardware to become powerful enough or it may just fail as usual.

 

[occifer]

A few years ago in SLS, many computer part shops sold Pentium CPUs. A few even sold Celeron CPUs if I remember correctly.

Today, I don't see shops in SLS selling Pentium and Celeron CPUs anymore. Minimum is i3. How come?

I'm disappointed because Intel i3 costs significantly more than Intel Pentium.

Few years back was due to crypto mining boom, to some extent.
Miners wanted cheap CPU to run simple mining rigs.

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[hg2]

Few years back was due to crypto mining boom, to some extent.
Miners wanted cheap CPU to run simple mining rigs.

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Not in reddot, the electricity price is too prohibitive to make it viable.
Mainly, CCP they can suck dry all the GPU, celeron on the market for mining.

Up till today Intel still manufacture celeron for OEM, e.g NAS, Firewalls.
Just that retail tray is impossible to find in reddot, but they abundant on Taobao.

 

[occifer]

Not in reddot, the electricity price is too prohibitive to make it viable.
Mainly, CCP they can suck dry all the GPU, celeron on the market for mining.

Up till today Intel still manufacture celeron for OEM, e.g NAS, Firewalls.
Just that retail tray is impossible to find in reddot, but they abundant on Taobao.

Yeah but back then profit margins were very good despite the high electricity cost.

The big guys have not come in yet.
Now then not worth it as u need 4 cents electricity due to heavy competition pushing up mining difficulty to the moon.
Hobby gpu mining works then but is dead now.

Sls even sell pre-made gpu rigs back then.

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[Rocket3]

Bump.
Intel has removed the Pentium and Celeron brand in 2023, and replaced it with "Intel Processor".
This was around 13th / 14th gen (Raptor Lake) time.

I don't remember seeing any "Intel Processor" on sale at SLS recently.

Who has seen local stores selling "Intel Processor"?
Or unusual motherboard / CPU like this?
The CPU is soldered on the motherboard. Have not seen motherboards like this at SLS for many years.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/N100M/index.asp

 

[abstrax]

Wah....Penitum and Celeron CPU are those years when I was working in SLS.
Thats when I bought my 1st Pentium 4 2.66Mhz system.

 

[TanKianW]

Wah....Penitum and Celeron CPU are those years when I was working in SLS.
Thats when I bought my 1st Pentium 4 2.66Mhz system.

Still has a Pentium Gold with me somewhere......think I got it to build a DIY NAS until I upgraded...​