Phone cameras are evolving fast, but photography is dying quietly. Gatekeeping ?

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https://www.gizchina.com/2025/08/06...olving-fast-but-photography-is-dying-quietly/


Mobile phone cameras today are so good, they can rival many digital cameras. They’re loaded with features like multiple lenses, big sensors, advanced image stabilization, and powerful processing chips—things you’d only expect to see in high-end photography equipment not too long ago. But oddly enough, even with all this progress, photography, the art of capturing moments meaningfully, doesn’t seem to be keeping up.


Hardware is advancing, but software is dominating

Modern phones come packed with cutting-edge camera hardware, including features like periscope zoom, 1-inch sensors, and advanced autofocus systems. But these improvements don’t tell the full story of image quality. What users see as the “final photo” is often heavily processed by software before they even press the shutter.

This is where the problem begins.

Phones now rely on computational photography. There are layers of algorithms that merge multiple frames, adjust lighting, smooth skin, sharpen eyes, and boost colours automatically. These processes often override what the lens and sensor captured. In the end, users have images that look polished but lack realism or texture. In trying to make every photo “pop,” the software often erases the natural character of the scene.


AI filters are replacing real choices

AI is meant to assist users, but in photography, it has started to replace them. From automatic scene detection to beauty filters and portrait modes, AI decides how a photo should look, even before the photographer can think about it. It edits for aesthetics, not meaning.

As a result, there’s a sameness to smartphone images today. A sunset will always look extra orange. Skies will be over-dramatized. Faces will be unnaturally smooth. The uniqueness of a moment is lost because the system is designed to create pleasing images, not honest ones.

This heavy-handed post-processing removes the need for users to understand light, composition, or timing, the core skills of photography. And when those are gone, the artistic element disappears too.


Creative control is limited or hidden

Photography, at its core, is about choices: framing, exposure, focus, and mood. But most smartphone cameras either limit or automate these decisions to the point that users are no longer involved in the process.

Manual settings exist on some phones, but they are often buried or clunky. Even when available, the final image still passes through aggressive post-processing unless shot in RAW format. Of course, an average phone user never uses this format. In fact, many people do not even know about it.

This lack of control means photographers can’t truly shape their images. They’re working within a controlled environment that prioritizes speed and visual impact over subtlety and emotion. The result is images that look good at a glance but don’t hold up to deeper viewing.


The culture around photography is changing

Smartphones have made photography accessible to everyone, but they’ve also shifted the purpose of the photo. Many people now shoot to post, not to tell a story or preserve a memory. The goal is often social media approval, not personal satisfaction.

Because of that, people take photos that look good in small squares, bright, sharp, high contrast, rather than images that evoke feeling or thought. Authenticity gives way to visual trends. And with auto-enhanced photos becoming the norm, our expectations of what a “good photo” looks like have shifted, too.


In conclusion

Photography is not all about holding a camera and pressing the shutter; it’s an art. It’s the ability to capture not just the object of focus but also the moment. Now, with smartphone cameras getting better than ever, the art of photography is slowly dying. Why bother to focus on the moment and make it memorable when software can easily give you a superficial image? The moment makes little meaning for many people because AI and auto-editing are there to create an artificial one. The endgame of this is that users are left with images that look good, but feel fake or empty.
 

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My 0.02:

1. Personal photos are essential for memories...esp old farts like me with gold fish memory

2. Nice artsy photos that most of us can appreciate ..are priceless ..AI or software can only do so much. Am very sure there is a model trained on Ansel Adams...but his actual works are masterpieces no AI or filter can replicate. Just like no AI can ever write original works like Dune or the latest South Park episodes (hilarious btw for those familiar with US current affairs)
 

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IMHO.
I take photo is just press button.
I use AI, need to start computer, run the app/sw, prompt, wait, etc. :ROFLMAO:
 

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IMHO.
I take photo is just press button.
I use AI, need to start computer, run the app/sw, prompt, wait, etc. :ROFLMAO:
Well, conversely, you can opt to just shoot on the phone and immediately utilize AI enhancements with no downtime.

The pipeline to achieve the intended outcome is exponentially faster on the phone. And as the popular saying goes, the best Camara is the one you have on you / in your pocket.

Don't get me wrong.
Traditional digital cameras still take spectacular photos, are more authentic and you nab the intended shot without any AI. It's both an art and craft that requires discipline.

Those who have grown up through all this appreciate it best. But I can't say the same for those who grew up using the phone first for everything. To them, it's like discovering a lost art form.

To be fair, the phone is good enough for most needs. Only professional work would demand more and/or newbies wanting to know the craft.
 

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Well, conversely, you can opt to just shoot on the phone and immediately utilize AI enhancements with no downtime.

The pipeline to achieve the intended outcome is exponentially faster on the phone. And as the popular saying goes, the best Camara is the one you have on you / in your pocket.

Don't get me wrong.
Traditional digital cameras still take spectacular photos, are more authentic and you nab the intended shot without any AI. It's both an art and craft that requires discipline.

Those who have grown up through all this appreciate it best. But I can't say the same for those who grew up using the phone first for everything. To them, it's like discovering a lost art form.

To be fair, the phone is good enough for most needs. Only professional work would demand more and/or newbies wanting to know the craft.
similar analogy to stick shift vs auto vs FSD.

Those who knew the clutch...either love it or hate it...the purist are paying millions for the last gen of stick shift classics... manual is fantastic when on roadtrip / carving canyon roads... drive in gridlock..leg cramp.

today almost every new car off the line is auto....FSD probably will be the next gen of automotive transport standards that mass majority will be used to.
 

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similar analogy to stick shift vs auto vs FSD.

Those who knew the clutch...either love it or hate it...the purist are paying millions for the last gen of stick shift classics... manual is fantastic when on roadtrip / carving canyon roads... drive in gridlock..leg cramp.

today almost every new car off the line is auto....FSD probably will be the next gen of automotive transport standards that mass majority will be used to.



Part of the discourse might be .. is the photo taken still considered a photo in its truest sense.

There are of course boundaries. The film darkroom / digital Photoshop has had their fair share of discussions but at least that bit of creativity was human driven, Ai processing however is quite something else

Gone were the days where u need to stake out a scene for that one stranger to complete the composition, now you just delete or add via Ai.

Trees with blurred leaves can be recreated with Ai with amazing invented details. Is that still the same tree?

With greater mobile processing power for Ai imagery, mobile makers can use subpar hardware/optics to capture a rough outline and let Ai fill the rest.

The Canon EOS R1 uses a lower resolution sensor and has some Ai algorithm to upres a high resolution file, drew abit of flak when it was first launched.
 

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Part of the discourse might be .. is the photo taken still considered a photo in its truest sense.
Purists would never accept all those "software-assistance". Just like how when the last GTR came out...every tom dick or harry who drove it tot they can be a F1 driver.....its impossible to spin the car with all the driver assistance turned on..every corner on the track can be taken like a pro. Not that I am recommending everyone go buy a widow maker 930 or PCGT for pure raw experience...

in short..there are those who enjoy taking the pic at that moment with the right frame..its a self satisfying reward..and then..there are those who happily just use AI to generate a photo..lol.


There are of course boundaries. The film darkroom / digital Photoshop has had their fair share of discussions but at least that bit of creativity was human driven, Ai processing however is quite something else

Gone were the days where u need to stake out a scene for that one stranger to complete the composition, now you just delete or add via Ai.
I hear u..while returning my rental car, i was waiting for the moment to take a photo of a 747 flying overhead.. the rental car dude was giving me the :rolleyes: look.

Trees with blurred leaves can be recreated with Ai with amazing invented details. Is that still the same tree?

With greater mobile processing power for Ai imagery, mobile makers can use subpar hardware/optics to capture a rough outline and let Ai fill the rest.
and those processors and algos will only get better and more impressive...so what are we left with?

The Canon EOS R1 uses a lower resolution sensor and has some Ai algorithm to upres a high resolution file, drew abit of flak when it was first launched.
Upscaling has its rightful place...e.g. restoration of old footages (photos and videos)...esp on old VHS like TV series which NVDA upskills to 4K...impressive and much needed when we are all having large TVs/projectors.

but using AI to create new pixels captured images..really whacky..kinda like the super zoom on the new pixels and sammies...using AI to fill in the blanks....
 

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Gone were the days where u need to stake out a scene for that one stranger to complete the composition, now you just delete or add via Ai.

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IMHO.
I still will stake out a place based on weather and light pattern. :cool:
 

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Eventually software will win everything. Yes, I agree with the purist thing just like some still like the manual shift and old school driving. But how many? Eventually 90% will go towards mainstream or FSD. The 10% will still pump their manual shift. Camera same la. Even my professional photographer friends only carry handphone for family holiday. I think not easy to bring many lenses also.

At the end of the day, even if professional work, the ones that have nice video wins. As client, you don’t care what gear they use but must be solid la. Else us $500k gear but lousy outcome also useless
 

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one thing phone can never rival digital camera... the sound of the camera shutter.

one kid (less than primary 6!) who told me last friday when i did some volunteer work. he say, phone is useless and not as exciting as a digital camera. the sound of camera shutter is one that excites him
 

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To the person who took the photograph, it has personal sentiments to it, because you took it yourself, you are proud of it, it is your experience, it is about you being there.

and to make the best out of that experience, handphone cannot beat some of the genre yet, and handphone is not going to invest in certain things like eye level viewfinder and external dials, while getting the latter comes with a price of $, weight and bulk

but for the viewers or businesses, it may not matter. AI is going to hit the industry hard in time to come.

I hope cameras can continue to keep the edge by being cheaper and lighter. Thank you,terima kasi, gamxia hamida. Keep our finger crossed and may those with good photos pls post more often to keep the art alive
 
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To the person who took the photograph, it has personal sentiments to it, because you took it yourself, you are proud of it, it is your experience, it is about you being there.

and to make the best out of that experience, handphone cannot beat some of the genre yet, and handphone is not going to invest in certain things like eye level viewfinder and external dials, but it comes with a price of $, weight and bulk

but for the viewers or businesses, it may not matter. AI is going to hit the industry hard in time to come.

I hope cameras can continue to keep the edge by being cheaper and lighter. Thank you,terima kasi, gamxia hamida. Keep our finger crossed and may those with good photos pls post more often to keep the art alive
the glass will continue to be that big, sensors, processor will get better... i love DSLR... i hope one day... it can shed 50% of it weights to be relevant again
 

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the glass will continue to be that big, sensors, processor will get better... i love DSLR... i hope one day... it can shed 50% of it weights to be relevant again
Unlikely to happen as the market is shifting to mirror less. No money means no development means no new product line

But Sony and sigma are continuing to push the size limits and in near future more light/small mirrorless lens will appear.

the good thing about dslr is that ergonomics and good handling (but big size) and most importantly large second hand market and cheap price on dated but usable technology. good for noob to learn cos very cheap to buy

If u r not after AF on moving human subjects and lighter gear, dslr can fulfill the need for many.

That said I’m on mirrorless for last 1 year precisely for above reasons. Used to be on dslr then I went into the cave. When I reappear the world has change and my nikon dslr line is discontinued and I move to Sony. Have to relearn everything as a newbie myself
 

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the glass will continue to be that big, sensors, processor will get better... i love DSLR... i hope one day... it can shed 50% of it weights to be relevant again
IMHO.
Cannot defy physics.
The reason why i didn't moved to Nikon Z range is because i saw some RAW image of it's inherent vignette.
I encounter the pure RAW image of my Canon super-zoom bridge camera that has distortion too.
The best combination is use FF lens on APS-C on DSLR for me. However, super sharp FF lens with wide aperture are super heavy.
 

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IMHO.
Cannot defy physics.
The reason why i didn't moved to Nikon Z range is because i saw some RAW image of it's inherent vignette.
I encounter the pure RAW image of my Canon super-zoom bridge camera that has distortion too.
The best combination is use FF lens on APS-C on DSLR for me. However, super sharp FF lens with wide aperture are super heavy.

You brought out a very interesting observation with current mirrorless camera systems - potentially over-reliance of "in camera lens correction" by manufacturers.

Canon was called out for certain R mount lenses that looked bad without in camera lens correction, but chances are Sony and Nikon are also somewhat guilty.

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/...canon-is-pushing-its-digital-lens-corrections

Their RF 35mm L prime and 24mm were guilty of heavy cropping because of vignetting resulting in an FOV less than competitors.

For now the in camera correction is only applied to jpeg, for raw shooters you will see the literal raw unvarnished uncorrected optics of the lens.

RAW
Gsxkan9jLAYYTFZ2vhu567-1200-80.jpg.webp


In-camera corrected jpg
KhteyqgFXGBqAYRZCU5Nj6-1200-80.jpg.webp


In camera correction can give more breathing space to lens design and potentially make lenses smaller.

I have this suspicion that 3rd party makers without the help of native in camera correction have to work even harder optically for their images to be 'decent' and end up having larger lenses.

Zeiss product manager on in-camera correction -

For its part, Zeiss says “no thank you” to digital lens corrections.

“With the Otus way, we are not relying on any of those. That’s part of the design goal,” Visuri tells PetaPixel, with a hint of pride. “Of course, the modern cameras nowadays, they do some kind of in-camera correction for distortion and colors. Sometimes they also make the lens appear sharper than it actually is.”

"what we want to preserve with Otus and the new Otus ML family is that we do not need to rely on those corrections.”

https://petapixel.com/2025/03/07/ze...e-photographers-something-entirely-different/
 

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You brought out a very interesting observation with current mirrorless camera systems - potentially over-reliance of "in camera lens correction" by manufacturers.

Canon was called out for certain R mount lenses that looked bad without in camera lens correction, but chances are Sony and Nikon are also somewhat guilty.

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/...canon-is-pushing-its-digital-lens-corrections

Their RF 35mm L prime and 24mm were guilty of heavy cropping because of vignetting resulting in an FOV less than competitors.

For now the in camera correction is only applied to jpeg, for raw shooters you will see the literal raw unvarnished uncorrected optics of the lens.

RAW
Gsxkan9jLAYYTFZ2vhu567-1200-80.jpg.webp


In-camera corrected jpg
KhteyqgFXGBqAYRZCU5Nj6-1200-80.jpg.webp


In camera correction can give more breathing space to lens design and potentially make lenses smaller.

I have this suspicion that 3rd party makers without the help of native in camera correction have to work even harder optically for their images to be 'decent' and end up having larger lenses.

Zeiss product manager on in-camera correction -

For its part, Zeiss says “no thank you” to digital lens corrections.

“With the Otus way, we are not relying on any of those. That’s part of the design goal,” Visuri tells PetaPixel, with a hint of pride. “Of course, the modern cameras nowadays, they do some kind of in-camera correction for distortion and colors. Sometimes they also make the lens appear sharper than it actually is.”

"what we want to preserve with Otus and the new Otus ML family is that we do not need to rely on those corrections.”

https://petapixel.com/2025/03/07/ze...e-photographers-something-entirely-different/
IMHO.
I believe during the APS-C era, it is already happening. Canon APS-C crop is 1.6 vs Nikon APS-C 1.5.
Software is everything these days, can use e.g. DxO PhotoLab to do sharping with a particular camera/lens combo and also improve micro-contrast.
 
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