Please recommend me a camera!!

[DOGGYCUP]

Been reading around for the past few days. Decided on either mirrorless or compact. Don’t want to lug a dslr while traveling cos I’m used to traveling light.

Compact - lx100, g7x or rx100
Mirrorless - a6000, omd em10

My Budget is around 1k with Lens kit if mirrorless. Please recommend other brand/models if there are better camera and fit into my Budget.

Mainly will using for travel and street photography. Am a beginner by the way.

Thanks so much!!

 

[endlssorrow]

Y wann spend so much on compact whereby quality lose to simple cheap DSLR other than its size

 

[yusoffb01]

Get rx100 mk3 since your budget allows it.

Better than dslr because dslr is bulkier, heavier, lower native iso, no f1.8, no 5axis in body stabilization, no built in nd filter, lower fps in continuous mode, less effects, no multishot noise reduction, no flip screen, no 60fps video, no full sensor readout for video, more buttons, no built in lens cap, lens cannot collapse into the body, longer minimum focal distance, no f2.8 aperture at tele end, no silent shutter.

Silent shutter is good for areas where photography is not allowed, and you can take pictures of people without them noticing

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tJbLQbz9uCuoGVVf9

 

[tjrsasea]

Y wann spend so much on compact whereby quality lose to simple cheap DSLR other than its size

das right ^

 

[dryteletubby]

Get rx100 mk3 since your budget allows it.

Better than dslr because dslr is bulkier, heavier, lower native iso, no f1.8, no 5axis in body stabilization, no built in nd filter, lower fps in continuous mode, less effects, no multishot noise reduction, no flip screen, no 60fps video, no full sensor readout for video, more buttons, no built in lens cap, lens cannot collapse into the body, longer minimum focal distance, no f2.8 aperture at tele end, no silent shutter.

Silent shutter is good for areas where photography is not allowed, and you can take pictures of people without them noticing

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tJbLQbz9uCuoGVVf9

The photos you show is reason to use a dlsr or mirroless camera instead

The landscape shot has the sky overexposed and washed out while the dark areas are underexposed.

The rest of the pictures have too much noise.

Not much of a improvement over a smart phone camera.

 

[tjrsasea]

Get rx100 mk3 since your budget allows it.

Better than dslr because dslr is bulkier, heavier, lower native iso, no f1.8, no 5axis in body stabilization, no built in nd filter, lower fps in continuous mode, less effects, no multishot noise reduction, no flip screen, no 60fps video, no full sensor readout for video, more buttons, no built in lens cap, lens cannot collapse into the body, longer minimum focal distance, no f2.8 aperture at tele end, no silent shutter.

Silent shutter is good for areas where photography is not allowed, and you can take pictures of people without them noticing

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tJbLQbz9uCuoGVVf9

quite biased. lets just compare this with the nikon d5500 dslr which is of similar price range.

- dslr because dslr is bulkier, heavier: true
- lower native iso: lower iso number doesnt mean better low light capabilities
- no f1.8: dslr can get any lens of any aperture (even focal lengths)
- no 5axis in body stabilization: true
- no built in nd filter: true, but no need for built in nd for street/portrait
- lower fps in continuous mode: true
- less effects: who uses effects
- no multishot noise reduction: true
- no flip screen: nope. yours is flip only. d5500 is fully articulating. any angles
- no 60fps video: nope. d5500 have 1080p 60fps
- no full sensor readout for video: true
- more buttons: means emore functionality. no need to dig through menu
- no built in lens cap: means can change lenses and not stick to one
- lens cannot collapse into the body: true - longer minimum focal distance: dslr can have any minimal focal distance with any available lens
- no f2.8 aperture at tele end: same as above
- no silent shutter: true

advantages of d5500 over yours:
- touch screen
- higher max iso (25600 vs 12800)
- hot shoe mount
- higher resolution (24 vs 20)
- more focal points (39 vs 25)
- can take more pics per charge (820 vs 320)
- higher max shutter speed (1/4000 vs 1/2000)
- larger screen (3.2" vs 3")
- external mic input
- higher colour depth
- higher dynamic range
- bigger sensor size (means better low light capabilities)

mirrorless/compact tech is good but sometimes, dslrs are better in value at some price range and not in others.

fun fact! most lenses for mirrorless are actually larger and heavier than the equivalent lenses built for dslr.. so the weight and size savings that you get for going mirrorless is actually less than you thought.

 

[DOGGYCUP]

the reason why I didn’t consider dslr is written in my post. I would argue the same as to why ppl will prefer to get an Ultrabook vs a gaming laptop, Portability. Will try out dslr vs compacts vs mirrorless soon.

Thanks for input everyone!! Point taken for the price value and form vs performance part.

 

[yusoffb01]

no problem! Glad i could help

 

[xonix]

Been reading around for the past few days. Decided on either mirrorless or compact. Don’t want to lug a dslr while traveling cos I’m used to traveling light.

Compact - lx100, g7x or rx100
Mirrorless - a6000, omd em10

My Budget is around 1k with Lens kit if mirrorless. Please recommend other brand/models if there are better camera and fit into my Budget.

Mainly will using for travel and street photography. Am a beginner by the way.

Thanks so much!!

I'm using a GX7 with 12-32mm & 17mm F1.8 for my travel needs.
Total damage is approx $1k at that time of purchase.

 

[thsnco]

Ever consider used set? Fujifilm has been producing very good mirrorless system with high quality lens. Sometimes you can get pretty good deal over at ClubSNAP market place, you just need to be patient and wait for it. Here's one example for Fujifilm X-T1,

https://www.clubsnap.com/threads/wtsell-mirrorless-fuji-x-t1.1720557/

 

[tjrsasea]

the reason why I didn’t consider dslr is written in my post. I would argue the same as to why ppl will prefer to get an Ultrabook vs a gaming laptop, Portability. Will try out dslr vs compacts vs mirrorless soon.

Thanks for input everyone!! Point taken for the price value and form vs performance part.

my reply wasnt for you. it was for the person whom i replied to. thanks.

 

[tjrsasea]

no problem! Glad i could help

its good to help. but please give advice that can stand their own ground instead of vomiting all that you think is right..

 

[tjrsasea]

Ever consider used set? Fujifilm has been producing very good mirrorless system with high quality lens. Sometimes you can get pretty good deal over at ClubSNAP market place, you just need to be patient and wait for it. Here's one example for Fujifilm X-T1,

https://www.clubsnap.com/threads/wtsell-mirrorless-fuji-x-t1.1720557/

yeah.. actually i would go for a second hand mirrorless camera over a brand new compact. more flexibility over which lens you can go with.

 

[Kyo_kusanagi86]

If you want details and full frame in a small size

https://www.sony.com.sg/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx1rm2

 

[endlssorrow]

Waaaaa won liao $5k

 

[Ah_keong]

I would get sony a6000 or Olympus em-10

 

[Project_Xco]

Get sony A6000 with samyang/rokinon 12mm lens.

 

[darr]

I would get a Panasonic ZS200 if I were to get a travel compact now. I am using the Sony RX100 III now. RX100 (as if one Panasonic LX10) is great for the fast lens (large aperture). The ZS200 lens is rather slow, but I think that's the only 1" compact with large zoom.

Another option is to get a superzoom like the Sony RX10 III/IV or Panasonic FZ2500. You get bright lens, long zoom, 1" sensor. I am actual contemplating to get the latter for fun's sake.

Except for the lack of bokeh, 1" cameras are really great for travelling.

I had actually though of getting a M43 system back then for travelling, but thinking thoroughly I settled on the Canon EOS 100D instead. I can use my existing Canon lenses, and there are far more superb lenses at very reasonable prices, and I can get many many different types of cheap aftermarket flashes compatible with ETTL for studio/sports/macro, you name it you have it. Face it, there are no such inexpensive options for M43, or any other non-Canon/Nikon system.

So my travel gear nowadays are:
- EOS100D + wide lens (10-20mm, 30mm, 8mm fisheye). Street shooting and Landscape (be amazed that with a prime lens it's barely larger than a M43 or the Sonys)
- RX100 III. Street shooting (superb portability)
- Sony HX60. Long range shots (ZS200 would replace this nicely)

I am thinking to get FZ2500. The extra cost of the RX10 seems not much point and the FZ2500 video features are superior, and I dig the 4K photo mode.

My EOS7D and other large lenses hardly travel with me nowadays.

In short, for travelling, the Panasonic ZS200 would be a great do-it-all option. Get a LX10 or RX100 for fairly good bokeh shots. Or just get a FZ200 or RX10 to do both, but less portable.

 

[Ah_keong]

I would get a Panasonic ZS200 if I were to get a travel compact now. I am using the Sony RX100 III now. RX100 (as if one Panasonic LX10) is great for the fast lens (large aperture). The ZS200 lens is rather slow, but I think that's the only 1" compact with large zoom.

Another option is to get a superzoom like the Sony RX10 III/IV or Panasonic FZ2500. You get bright lens, long zoom, 1" sensor. I am actual contemplating to get the latter for fun's sake.

Except for the lack of bokeh, 1" cameras are really great for travelling.

I had actually though of getting a M43 system back then for travelling, but thinking thoroughly I settled on the Canon EOS 100D instead. I can use my existing Canon lenses, and there are far more superb lenses at very reasonable prices, and I can get many many different types of cheap aftermarket flashes compatible with ETTL for studio/sports/macro, you name it you have it. Face it, there are no such inexpensive options for M43, or any other non-Canon/Nikon system.

So my travel gear nowadays are:
- EOS100D + wide lens (10-20mm, 30mm, 8mm fisheye). Street shooting and Landscape (be amazed that with a prime lens it's barely larger than a M43 or the Sonys)
- RX100 III. Street shooting (superb portability)
- Sony HX60. Long range shots (ZS200 would replace this nicely)

I am thinking to get FZ2500. The extra cost of the RX10 seems not much point and the FZ2500 video features are superior, and I dig the 4K photo mode.

My EOS7D and other large lenses hardly travel with me nowadays.

In short, for travelling, the Panasonic ZS200 would be a great do-it-all option. Get a LX10 or RX100 for fairly good bokeh shots. Or just get a FZ200 or RX10 to do both, but less portable.

agree. I wanted to built a m43 system to complement my Canon system but then realize the Canon 200D can utilize the lens and consolidating all into a eco-system. Have you considered the M6 or M50?

 

[darr]

agree. I wanted to built a m43 system to complement my Canon system but then realize the Canon 200D can utilize the lens and consolidating all into a eco-system. Have you considered the M6 or M50?

Actually if u notice, the 200D is degenerating into the larger size of low-end EOS. The 100D although very small, the shutter button is further away from the grip than the low-end EOS (and 200D), this makes operating the shutter with a more solid grip. So on those low-end EOS when you try to press the shutter, you will lose grip momentarily (n cause minute shakes enough to kill the shot). There's no such problem with higher-end EOS (less some of the xxD) cos the grips are larger.

Do try out the 200D before deciding whether you like the grip and feel. 100D operates like a mini large SLR with its solid grip and nice finger ridge. All the low-end EOS feel cheap and plasticky, same for the 200D.

The operating feel of the EOS-M is simply poor, like using a compact than a SLR. With the EOS-M EF adapter, they are hardly smaller than the 100D, more bulky in fact, and the 100D has a real finder. See the images to understand what I mean.

I cannot understand why can't Canon design a proper compact APS SLR. Look at the EOS-IX, it uses APS flim and the body depth is yet so slim. The Canon designers should open their eyes and look at their APS film SLRs. The EOS-M series is really a redundant spinoff, with all the mediocre lenses...else why would they promote the use of the adapter....

The compact m43 bodies are also really fragile. I have seen countless times those bodies just cracked apart like egg shells, and even the lower end lenses. And the rugged ones are so big that it moots the point to use m43.

Sorry to those who beg to differ, but since my film days I already know why the EOS SLRs are such a joy to operate. My 15 year-old EOS 10D still operates like a charm, built like a tank, and to date still delivers superb colors in low ISO 6.3mp.