Potential of Malaysian Properties (Iskandar)

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yea i was looking at the properties in Iskandar as an investment. Of those I've seen, from landed to condo, I believe three key factor make a sound property investment. All three factors must be satisfied or this is not the right investment for said person.

First our risk tolerance and capital. $400,000 > capital >$200,000 is a gauge of whether you are suitable for the market here.

Second, a reputable developer. Be it condo or landed, the developer is the key. Example. IOI , UEM , Country Garden

Third, I believe the scale of the development is important in Malaysia. We must not use the same lens of seeing condo developments in Singapore. Example: A typical condo size in Singapore is considered too small when applied to Iskandar. On top of the top two factors, the size will enable a healthy critical mass for sustainability.

Just sharing my views , hope to hear some good non dismissive feedback :)

... or else will complain to moderator ! haha


i guess we should look at township development. example is setia group.

they have created successful towns out of nowhere. like bkt indah where they got several plots of land. or setia tropika.

a good example of singapore township would be sentosa cove.

once these township developments come into place, there will be capital appreciations.
 

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i guess we should look at township development. example is setia group.

they have created successful towns out of nowhere. like bkt indah where they got several plots of land. or setia tropika.

a good example of singapore township would be sentosa cove.

once these township developments come into place, there will be capital appreciations.


Agree tekster!!
 

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Once it get started, Foreigners will have to pay for a higher price vs local. For those already purchased for "investment". It may need lots of luck to sell if you decided not to own the house anymore.

those who bought it initially, will see 5% increase in prices.
 

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i guess we should look at township development. example is setia group.

they have created successful towns out of nowhere. like bkt indah where they got several plots of land. or setia tropika.

a good example of singapore township would be sentosa cove.

once these township developments come into place, there will be capital appreciations.

When TOP, you want to sell your house to who ?
Local Malaysian ?
Foreigner like you ?
Buyer can always buy new house instead of second hand home.
Do you know that Malaysia have a lot of land ? They can build another new town right behind your house after cut some trees.
Do you think the resale market in Malaysia is good ? :s13::s13::s13::s13:
 

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When TOP, you want to sell your house to who ?
Local Malaysian ?
Foreigner like you ?
Buyer can always buy new house instead of second hand home.
Do you know that Malaysia have a lot of land ? They can build another new town right behind your house after cut some trees.
Do you think the resale market in Malaysia is good ? :s13::s13::s13::s13:

so you're saying that nobody sells off their house in malaysia?
 

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means singaporeans are carrot head. think everything is cheap because divide by 2.5. But dunno it actually gets alot cheaper when they ve nobody to offload it to when TOP. :D

why must offload? just add to your collection.
 

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If comparing here and there, it's cheap because it's comparing apple to orange. Should compare against property in other parts of MY.:s8:

why must offload? just add to your collection.

Yes if you ve alot of money to just buy and keep, why not. For me I only keep if I can get good rental. Else I offload, recycle, rinse and repeat. :D

agree tekster lol . not everyone has the liquidity to keep, thats why its a niche market in msia
 

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u sound like somebody trying to convince Singaporeans to buy.

And what add it to your collection? A lot of people treat it as an investment and loan money to purchase it, if after TOP price drop and rent cant cover the interest then they are screwed. Even if you have enough cash, you are so rich to have so many in your collection that dont generate money?
 

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When TOP, you want to sell your house to who ?
Local Malaysian ?
Foreigner like you ?
Buyer can always buy new house instead of second hand home.
Do you know that Malaysia have a lot of land ? They can build another new town right behind your house after cut some trees.
Do you think the resale market in Malaysia is good ? :s13::s13::s13::s13:

Actually, the resale market in Malaysia is very good for key places such as KL & Petaling Jaya. Of course, location and timing is key for the value of your property.

My family bought a little 1027sf apartment for RM2XXk back in 2008, and sold it for RM4XXk in 2012, and today it's fetching RM5XXk on the market. It was owned by locals, tenanted by a local company for its staff, and sold to locals. And when we first invested in the property, many shook their heads and said apartment investments will never make money - so the joke's on them now ;)

In contrast, my friend bought a 850 sf apartment for RM90k in a fairly remote location of PJ back in 2003. She sold it at a loss of RM75k to her tenant in 2005. Ironically if she had held on then, it would be fetching RM150k to RM180k now after apartment prices started to pick up in mid-2000s when landed properties became more & more expensive.

So if Iskandar can be of commercial importance like KL & PJ, then the property investment prospects can be bright for everyone :)
 

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It's not new but it's information for investors to note.

Understanding the Iskandar property market using the iProperty Consumer Sentiment Survey 2013

For any property investment to be profitable, there must be strong demand for the type of asset in the particular location. In other words, for Singaporean investors to make money from their Iskandar properties, there must be a situation where demand (from both overseas and local buyers) is more than supply.
While this survey does not specifically focus on the Iskandar property market, it gives property buyers a good idea of what Malaysian buyers look for. To summarise, the majority of Malaysian property buyers have a budget of less than RM1million and more than half prefer landed properties. For a portion of them, Iskandar may not be the first investment destination they will look at as they may head to Georgetown, Penang first.
I recognise that these findings are based on a sentiment survey and market situations do change over time. However, the point I am trying to highlight is that there is much more to the Malaysian and Iskandar property market than what many investors may have realised. For example, there were 38,640 residential transactions in Singapore in 2010. In comparison, the number of residential transactions in Malaysia during the same period was 376,583, almost ten times Singapore's transaction figure. Thus it may not be prudent for investors to assume that what works in Singapore will work in Iskandar or Malaysia, and they should understand the market a bit more before proceeding with their purchase.
 

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yup its a good read to highlight there is much more to the Malaysian and Iskandar property market than what many investors may have realised. These findings are based on a sentiment survey and market situations do change over time. :):s12:

For example, there were 38,640 residential transactions in Singapore in 2010. In comparison, the number of residential transactions in Malaysia during the same period was 376,583, almost ten times Singapore's transaction figure.
 

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Peter Lim : Rowsley reveals details of mega Iskandar project

Any opinions on Peter Lim's mega Iskandar project? :s13::s13: Keep it healthy and courteous k!

Rowsley reveals details of mega Iskandar project, Foreign Property News, Singapore Property Guides & Articles - STProperty

FRESH from a corporate transformation, Singapore-listed Rowsley is putting the finishing touches to its grand RM5.5 billion (S$2.2 billion) Vantage Bay project in Malaysia's bustling Iskandar.

The integrated project in Johor Baru city centre is just 1km from the customs, immigration and quarantine complex.

The sheer proximity to Singapore suggests the project is poised to give other mega Iskandar projects a run for their money.

The project spans 9.23ha or 13 international-sized football fields.

For the first time yesterday, Rowsley, part-owned by billionaire Peter Lim, revealed details of the Vantage Bay project.

It will include a twin tower, set to become one of the tallest condominiums in Malaysia, with striking views of the Strait of Johor and Singapore's skyline. There will also be a mall as big as Singapore's largest, VivoCity, with a net lettable area of one million sq ft, a hotel and office blocks.

A major bonus: It will be connected to a medical hub run by Thomson Medical Hospital, which will include medical suites and step-down care like apartments.

Thomson Medical is part- owned by Mr Lim and Johor's royal family while the Vantage Bay site is 70 per cent owned by Mr Lim and the rest by Johor royalty.

The project, with an expected plot ratio of 11, is in good hands. RSP Architects Planners & Engineers, Singapore's oldest and leading architect firm which was just appointed to undertake the iconic Jewel project in Changi, is charged with the project's design.

Rowsley has just completed a $545 million acquisition of RSP Architects and waterfront land in Iskandar, paid through issuance of new shares under a reverse takeover exercise.

"The transaction has transformed us from a company with a market capitalisation of $140 million to nearly $1.5 billion in less than a year," said Rowsley executive chairman Ho Tat Kin at a media briefing yesterday.

According to Vantage Bay chief executive and Rowsley executive director Ho Kiam Kheong, the residential units will be launched by the first quarter of next year. The whole project is expected to take 10 years to complete.

"This is not going to be just another ghost town. It will be a seamless experience and a truly integrated township," he said.

"We are going to have pedestrian walkways in the centre, which will have an open space and lots of shrubs with shelters and alfresco dining outlets which will light up at night... like Clarke Quay."

But there may be challenges. It was reported that starting from January next year, foreigners buying property in Johor face a higher processing fee.

Mr Ho Kiam Kheong said: "We are obviously disappointed as developers over the cooling measures, but they indicate that market demand is strong and will take out the speculative element."

The lifestyle-cum-wellness project could rival other projects in Nusajaya, a pivotal part of Iskandar's growth, taking in Puteri Harbour and Medini.

He said: "The key difference is that in Puteri Harbour or Medini or Nusajaya, there are many developers coming together to make it work.

"That is a challenge as developers have their respective commercial interests to safeguard and 'inertia' could set in.

"The mindset of 'you go first, I'll come after you' is going to be a challenge for the project to really take off at a faster pace."
 
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