Priority over liquid cash or cpf?

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Well, it's a decent deal if it lowers your tax bracket to a lower bracket.
also depends on what age bracket you are in - in your 20s, 55 might seem a damn long time in the future; in your 40s, that finishing line doesn't look so far away now, does it?
 

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Y u so particular about the figure? For some it is 60k, for others it may jus be 6k.

Each of us have different spending. U can't expect a sole breadwinner of a family of 6 to set aside the same amount as a fresh grad with no debt commitment.

So for a sole breadwinner of a family of 6, what would be the target to set aside for liquid funds?
 

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suggest to keep more for additional expenses like medical bills. If u lose your job u will also lose the company insurance coverage. since can only claim from insurance after u pay the bills. Unless everything can be covered by Medisave.

So a safer target would be 80k? 100k?
 

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also depends on what age bracket you are in - in your 20s, 55 might seem a damn long time in the future; in your 40s, that finishing line doesn't look so far away now, does it?

some people are topping up for their newborn kids. for these people the finishing line is more than half a century away.
 

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some people are topping up for their newborn kids. for these people the finishing line is more than half a century away.

They are very selfless and generous. Since there's no tax relief to top up their kids or grandkids AND there's no guarantee these kids will be fillial to them when they grow up.
 

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LiteHouse said:
Well, it's a decent deal if it lowers your tax bracket to a lower bracket.
That's not quite right. Regardless of whether the top-up drops you into a lower tax bracket, the tax relief is great.

No tax relief if already 55 and met FRS.
That's not quite right either. You still get tax relief for compulsory contributions, including those from age 55 onward and beyond the Full Retirement Sum. Consequently the smart play is to claim the tax reliefs associated with the voluntary top-ups while you can, and that goes for Medisave, too. Then you end up with even more contributions (and interest payments) that are never taxed in Singapore.
 

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That's not quite right. Regardless of whether the top-up drops you into a lower tax bracket, the tax relief is great.


That's not quite right either. You still get tax relief for compulsory contributions, including those from age 55 onward and beyond the Full Retirement Sum. Consequently the smart play is to claim the tax reliefs associated with the voluntary top-ups while you can, and that goes for Medisave, too. Then you end up with even more contributions (and interest payments) that are never taxed in Singapore.

Was the Jurong branch yesterday. Any cash top-up for me goes straight in RA and no tax relief. Nor for spouse if annual income more than $4k. Issue is CPF deductions after 55 are lower and Chargeable Income becomes higher. Trying to think a way to reduce.
 

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Any cash top-up for me goes straight in RA and no tax relief.
Correct. That's a voluntary contribution, not a compulsory one. Your compulsory contributions (from work in Singapore), if you have any, still qualify for tax relief.

Issue is CPF deductions after 55 are lower and Chargeable Income becomes higher. Trying to think a way to reduce.
Medisave!

Voluntary contributions to Medisave still qualify for tax relief, to your own Medisave account. You can make those voluntary contributions if you are below the CPF Annual Limit. You should have a pretty good idea, right now (as I write this) about how much room, if any, you have below your 2017 CPF Annual Limit. If you have some room, and if your Medisave Account is below the Basic Healthcare Sum ($52,000 for 2017), there's still time if you run down to the CPF office with a paper check to make a voluntary top-up to your Medisave Account.

And, starting on January 1, the BHS will increase to $54,500 for 2018. (I believe it still increases up until your 65th birthday, when it's then locked in.) If you expect to have $2,500 worth of room below your CPF Annual Limit, then you can top up another $2,500 on January 1, 2018 (or maybe on January 2, 2018, if CPF's online systems are shut down at the very beginning of the new year).

I believe it's somewhat easier to fall below the CPF Annual Limit once you hit age 55, because of the reduction in compulsory contribution rates. So that could work for you, unless you have a rather large amount of variable compensation (bonuses, etc.)

You can also rush in with Medisave top-ups after a Medisave withdrawal for insurance premiums and medical bills, again assuming you have room below the CPF Annual Limit of $37,740. It's prudent for you to assume medical insurance premiums and medical bills for the household from your Medisave Account if you're in the higher tax bracket and can make these voluntary contributions, with tax relief.

Another possible option is that your employer could make voluntary Medisave contributions via the Additional Medisave Contribution Scheme (AMCS). That can be up to $1,500 in 2017 and up to $2,730 in 2018 (and in future years, unless changed again). AMCS is not subject to the Basic Healthcare Sum (BHS) limits, nor is it subject to the CPF Annual Limit. AMCS is technically per contributor, so if you have a couple different employers, then at least hypothetically you can double up on that.

You can also try finding tax qualified CPF member recipients who have not reached the Full Retirement Sum (FRS), notably a parent (if you have one). If you top up that qualified person's Retirement Account, you can claim the second $7,000 CPF SA/RA tax relief.

Tax reliefs are capped at a total of $80,000, please bear in mind. And more tax relief doesn't help if you've already driven your income below the taxable threshold (below the 2% tax bracket).
 

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sad to say went down to CPF the 2nd time in 3 days. No, even top-up to Medisave using cash no tax relief.
 

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main objective of topping up is to get some tax relief. no such thing even if I top-up $7k to medisave. for my spouse acct.
 

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no such thing even if I top-up $7k to medisave. for my spouse acct.
If your spouse is eligible for tax relief, that'll work. It doesn't matter who tops up his/her Medisave Account.

If your spouse won't owe any income tax, then he/she won't have any tax to relieve.
 
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