Problems with Genneva Payout

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In that case pls post your tactic here for all to see. I am sure many will thank you for your effort.

The problem with the Sell Back Gold which they claim holding the 70% of your investment
After you handed over your Gold you still need to wait for 6 months to get back your Money or before that the company disappear Money all gone.
Only one solution just hold on to your Gold and carry on chasing for your payout.
 
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Don't return physical gold to goldcos !

The problem with the Sell Back Gold which they claim holding the 70% of your investment
After you handed over your Gold you still need to wait for 6 months to get back your Money or before that the company disappear Money all gone.
Only one solution just hold on to your Gold and carry on chasing for your payout.

What I think is:

Step 1 - verify that your gold is genuine gold, not fake. Have it tested by a certified goldsmith.

Step 2 - if it is genuine, hold onto it, and as mentioned, keep chasing for your payout. Do not, under all circumstances, return the gold to the goldcos or any other company seeking to "assist" you. To chase for your payout, you may need to engage a lawyer and issue a letter of demand.

Step 3 - if it is fake gold, make a police report immediately.

I think based on current situation, holding onto a real gold is the best option.
 
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Gold musical chairs

The reason I said that one should not return physical gold to goldcos is that goldcos will use that gold to sell to another victim. In effect, it is a musical chair game, the same gold keeps being switched from one buyer to another. More and more people get sucked in.

Once the gold is gone from your hands, it is gone. If the company go bust, don't expect a single cent to come back. MAS or the courts or the best of lawyers cannot help you !
 

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The problem with the Sell Back Gold which they claim holding the 70% of your investment
After you handed over your Gold you still need to wait for 6 months to get back your Money or before that the company disappear Money all gone.
Only one solution just hold on to your Gold and carry on chasing for your payout.

This is my maiden post. I am from across the causeway where Genneva is based. Their model there is slightly different. Is it true in Sg they take six months to pay cash on sell back? This is unbelievable. Also unbelievable is that they can manage to sell SKR's for a higher payout of up to 6% per MONTH!!?? Why has not the squeaky clean and efficient Police Sg and MAS taken immediate action to close down the operations? How can anyone trust their money or gold with this bunch of people. I understand the masterminds of Genneva are facing criminal prosecutions by M'SIA Central Bank for illegal deposit taking and money laundering. The SKR scheme is a 100% deposit taking operation, moreover the payout is unbelievably HIGH ! How can all these be possible?
 

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For Genneva DELAY 2.5% Payout running into the 2nd Months. The agent promise me will transfer to my account on Friday. But until today i haven't get it. Somebody help me!!!
 

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The Safe Keeping Receipt scheme is definitely a deposit taking scheme. In this case the MAS cannot disclaim jurisdiction over this activity which should be under the purview of the Central Bank. Does Genneva Sg have a MAS LICENCE to collect deposits? Unhappy investors should pursue this avenue for quick resolution.
 

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This is my maiden post. I am from across the causeway where Genneva is based. Their model there is slightly different. Is it true in Sg they take six months to pay cash on sell back? This is unbelievable. Also unbelievable is that they can manage to sell SKR's for a higher payout of up to 6% per MONTH!!?? Why has not the squeaky clean and efficient Police Sg and MAS taken immediate action to close down the operations? How can anyone trust their money or gold with this bunch of people. I understand the masterminds of Genneva are facing criminal prosecutions by M'SIA Central Bank for illegal deposit taking and money laundering. The SKR scheme is a 100% deposit taking operation, moreover the payout is unbelievably HIGH ! How can all these be possible?

Hi drago,

Do you have any information about what happens to Genneva in Malaysia? Do they also face the same situation as Genneva Singapore, i.e. delayed payment, having to park-in gold, etc.??

Thks.
 

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For Genneva DELAY 2.5% Payout running into the 2nd Months. The agent promise me will transfer to my account on Friday. But until today i haven't get it. Somebody help me!!!

Hi Ivan,

Have you parked you gold for Gold Inspection? If so, how many days later they returned back your gold?

Thks.
 

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Hi Ivan,

Have you parked you gold for Gold Inspection? If so, how many days later they returned back your gold?

Thks.
I still holding the gold. The gold is 'Pamp Suisse', if i'm not wrong the gold is buy from UOB. Hope they will pay the interest by next week.

Thanks!
 

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Hi Alvin, thanks!

So, you did not park-in your gold for 3 days? I heard the customers are told to park the gold with them for 3 days for what they claim to be "data-dotting".. You did not do so?

Thks
I'm not parked gold with them. Just the GV still pending to pay 2.5% interest for this month. Anyone face this problem please update oh, thanks~
 

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I'm not parked gold with them. Just the GV still pending to pay 2.5% interest for this month. Anyone face this problem please update oh, thanks~

Hmm, I do not quite understand coz most customers were told to park the gold for 3-4 days for inspection.

So, yours is for how long? 3 month or 6 month? Then, have you received your 2.5% for both august and july?

Thks
 

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Hmm, I do not quite understand coz most customers were told to park the gold for 3-4 days for inspection.

So, yours is for how long? 3 month or 6 month? Then, have you received your 2.5% for both august and july?

Thks

gennevacomplaingroup mentioned only need to park the gold during renewal. So I guess that means when your 3 or 6 mths contract is up. So if yours is in the middle mths, no need to park gold, just supposed to collect money right?
 

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Hi drago,

Do you have any information about what happens to Genneva in Malaysia? Do they also face the same situation as Genneva Singapore, i.e. delayed payment, having to park-in gold, etc.??

Thks.

Yes, situation for Genneva in Malaysia is not so rosy now...

There are delays in Commission and discounts too...

Clients need to wait for 3 weeks before collecting their gold...
 
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Everyone is "encouraged" to park their gold for the GI in order to get the outstanding discount for July and aug. I place it to do GI and got it back after about 5 days later. Only received july comms. All my 2, 2.5, 3% were all delayed. Not received a single cent till now. Anyone heard if those sellbacka got their money back? Last I heard is that they have for almost a month after giving back their gold.
 

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People should STOP getting involved in genneva gold!

My friend has already lost 1 mil and he's at a loss now! he has 5mil worth of gold stuck in genneva and they are refusing to return him!

This should seriously serve as a WARNING!!!!
 

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for what i know is...

In this case Genneva delay the agent's comm for a few months that should work out to more than $10 million. where still got the heart to pull in new contracts.

17 millions every month discount only(2%-3%):eek:
GV delay for 2 months so is gonna be DOUBLE!!!:s22:

What about those agents comm??? delay for more than 5 months(0.5%)
so is another 20 millions....

for those who still hoping to get their Discount & Comm.......... :(
=> No HOPE at all!!!

for those who still waiting to sell back.............:s8:.(100%)
=> Wait long long...... until your physical GOLD hit rocket high in next 6-8 year!!:s12:

worst is for those who so greedy that park your gold in pawn shop!!!:(
ICE CREAM LIAO...........:s12:
 

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My feel is not they don't have money to pay, must be some restructuring or political within the companies going on that they pause the cash flow. If there is cash flow problem, it should have happened quite some times back. Since this G company is in MY,SG and china. you should also verify what is happening in the rest of the countries for the customer.
 
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MALAYSIA GENNEVA

A former consultant wrote this and again it meant for Chuah, Genneva Consultant.

Here you go:

My name is OLD UNCLE. I used to be an active con-sultant for Genneva ( formally known as Samudra) in the early 2009.
Thankfully, I managed to totally pull-out/withdrawn all contracts since last year .

I assumed you are new and therefore do not fully understand what is really going on with the company.
They kept changing company policies as and when they like, to suit their own interest every few days.

At first, every Consultants were forced to pay portion out of their commission regularly each month- so called monthly meeting expenses!!!.
Later on, we, consultants were made compulsory/forced to pay Rm 500 each to joint as Gold Beam membership.
From there on-wards, to renew membership with Rm 250 every year.
Why is there a need to joint as member of Gold Beam when all of us consultants are under the umbrella of Genneva ??

Without our consent, Genneva can just subtract from our commission to “donate” to functions like big walk, F1, etc to boost it’s name/image.
If company is doing well, why does the company needs to boost its image at the expense of its consultants??

When company’s cash-flow was low, its started forcing everyone of us to pay Rm 250 to Rm300 each to attend non-sense hibah training.
After that, we had to pay extra Rm 40 per contract for stamping.

Later on, company came up with deducting Rm5 per cheque deposited into clients’ bank account.
Is there any other company around who charge a fee for banking-in employees’ salary/commission into bank a/c??

To me, all the above collections are like day light robbery.

Have you ever heard of anyone having to pay to attend for their own company’s Annual Dinner ??? Genneva must be the first and only one.
On top of paying for dinner ticket, we even had to pay bus transportation fare to the event venue. Imagine that.

During the Annual dinner, lucky draws were not lucky at all because Genneva never fulfill its obligations until today.
When asked where are the won prices, they said had to cancel because violate government guide lines.
Free trips to China also no news until today!!!

Of course you may say these are small matters as long as you get your monthly commission and physical gold bars in hand.
Yes, I do agree will you. Even if company wind-up or no longer pays out hibab, its “OK” as long as gold bars are with the clients.

But this is not the case. I had emphasized this 2 years back, for those who follow this forum would still remember.
My only concern is the “Waiting Time”.

Scenario 1) Waiting to get hold of your physical gold after you have made payment AND
Scenario 2) Waiting to collect payment cheque when you had delivered your gold in advance to the company during “sell back”.

2 years back then, the “waiting time” was about 2 weeks maximum but now, it seems stretching beyond months!!!.

My dear Mr. Chuah, have you ever thought of the consequences if you are caught in the above scenarios when suddenly :-
1) Genneva follows Gold Label footstep, to announced in newspaper it no longer sustain business & decided to wind-up or
2) Bank Negara decided to conduct a raid at Genneva & found no cash nor gold available at the premises.

The key point here is “Waiting Time”. The months of “waiting time” is total nightmare.
You will have to be hold responsible to your relatives & friends whom you had convinced that the scheme is “safe”.

Please please and please do not compare Genneva with Poh Kong or any other gold smith shop.
With Poh Kong, you pay and ON THE SPOT you get you gold.
Likewise when you sell to Poh Kong, you get you cash ON THE SPOT.

Please please do not mislead others that you have physical gold in hand.
In actual fact, during the duration of 3 months contract, you only get to hold on gold bar a few days at the most.
By the time you got your gold, its already time to pass back to company for renewal inspection!!!! Yet wait another round….

Please, no more mentioning of holding gold bar in your hand & wait for it to appreciate then sell.
The main issue of discussion is, the time for Genneva to deliver gold or cheque cleared before anything bad happened.

For those who are still waiting to get the gold or sell-back payment cheque, sweet dreams.
By the way, ever wonder why sell-back payment cheques NOT auto-deposited into bank like monthly commission!?!?!.

Dear uncles and aunties, the end is near…You may start crying…………………..

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Hmm, I do not quite understand coz most customers were told to park the gold for 3-4 days for inspection.

So, yours is for how long? 3 month or 6 month? Then, have you received your 2.5% for both august and july?

Thks
Hi guys,
May be we should question why is there a need to park the gold for 3-4 days?
We bought the gold from them, don't you think they should check the gold before they sell it to consumers?

And all that was what they have said. All verbal, no memo, no email to justified. Today they can tell you 3-4 days, tomorrow they can tell you 3-4 months
 
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