Problems with Genneva Payout

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Warning!!! Not a good sign!!!

recently when bring back gold for renewal, Genneva will strip off the PAMP gold or UOB gold packaging to do something they call "data dot" process. Also all the gold will be rotated so you don't get back the piece of gold you brought in. For example, if bring in PAMP gold for renewal, it may be change to some other brand like Lion Head or their own Genneva gold.

sinvestg, sorry to ask you this when do you get this information from?
are you the one that bring back to genneva to do renewal and this is actually happened to your case?

if this is true fact... is very scary now... they might just sell any gold bar in hand as soon as they can during the 3 days while you return them the gold bar for renewal.... when come to the date of collection they just pass you any gold bar they still have in hand...

which mean those who pass their gold bar for renewal might be a total loss in this genneva scam!!! (provided your information is real situation now):s12:
 

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recently when bring back gold for renewal, Genneva will strip off the PAMP gold or UOB gold packaging to do something they call "data dot" process. Also all the gold will be rotated so you don't get back the piece of gold you brought in. For example, if bring in PAMP gold for renewal, it may be change to some other brand like Lion Head or their own Genneva gold.

1. After you got back the so called Lion Head or the Genneva gold is it sealed with their own seal ?
2. Think they are using Microdots to keep track of their products.
3. But the Question is what is the quality of these Gold ?
4. Do you know of anyone get back the PAMP or OUB Gold ?

NEW STRATEGY to generate More Gold.....
PERCENTAGE........
 
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recently when bring back gold for renewal, Genneva will strip off the PAMP gold or UOB gold packaging to do something they call "data dot" process. Also all the gold will be rotated so you don't get back the piece of gold you brought in. For example, if bring in PAMP gold for renewal, it may be change to some other brand like Lion Head or their own Genneva gold.

Datadot you mean this? Top result from searching "datadot". The Leading Global Microdot Manufacturer

So are you able to confirm the gold they get back is "some other brand like Lion Head or their own Genneva gold."? Or just trying to fan the flames? Speculation doesn't help the affected people.
 

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Does anyone notice a lot of people who post here other than the few senior members are all new registered user?
 

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real incident update!!!

Datadot you mean this? Top result from searching "datadot". The Leading Global Microdot Manufacturer

So are you able to confirm the gold they get back is "some other brand like Lion Head or their own Genneva gold."? Or just trying to fan the flames? Speculation doesn't help the affected people.

just got a confirm news from existing genneva permier customer (those who put in 1 million and above on a single account) she was force to do renewal by her up-line, and only if she do the renewal then she will get her discount!
The up-line promise and guarantee she will get back both gold and discount on wednesday, so she put her 1 kg UOB gold bar with genneva on friday and was told to collect on wednesday...

but wednesday when she came and collect she was told to stay away from the office (cause still got new customers sign into the scam plan) just wait for the phone call then come and collect..

She waited till very late.. almost waited for 9 hours:eek: till she gone mad:s22: She went straight to the genneva office and make a BIG "WOO-HAA"
then she got it back=:p (those who can't get back on time can try this!)

She got back different serial number and also different pcs of gold!!!
the worst part is... since she join in as a premier member her discount was never delay before (for those small account yes delay and delay as good as no pay) she never get her discount on that day...

the above information is for those people who really need HELP to take note... :s12:
 

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so what?? I am new here...

i might be new at this forum but take a look at asianbookie.com same username without the 4D only... take a look at the year i joined!!!
can also see my pic there 20years ago one lol....:s12:
 

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the important point here is SOLUTION!:s12:

Actually the 3 scenarios you shared previously covers it all really. From the current situation, the only chance they can get the full money back in future is your option 2. Option 1 is likely to be a complete loss while option 3 is to cut your losses as per the risk you accepted when you bought into this.

Any legal experts willing to share any other scenarios which can help the affected people given the situation they are faced with now.
 

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Look at the no of views.....9000+.....you look more suspicious in asking this question. Are you working for Genneva?

Wow now start accusing me of working for Geneva. WTF. I should not be bothered to help people here by helping people who are in this scheme and advicing them. To all those inside Geneva and those invested in them, this is your problem to solve and me shall not be bothered if you get your money back. Such an insult to be called affiliated with Geneva when you can see how I am against them. To any respectable members in this forum,you should see the true color of genevacomplaingroup and we shall not be bothered by them less they will insult you that you are working for Geneva. This is their problem. My second last post here in this thread. You all deserve what you get for not heeding other people advice.
 

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just got a confirm news from existing genneva permier customer (those who put in 1 million and above on a single account) she was force to do renewal by her up-line, and only if she do the renewal then she will get her discount!
The up-line promise and guarantee she will get back both gold and discount on wednesday, so she put her 1 kg UOB gold bar with genneva on friday and was told to collect on wednesday...

but wednesday when she came and collect she was told to stay away from the office (cause still got new customers sign into the scam plan) just wait for the phone call then come and collect..

She waited till very late.. almost waited for 9 hours:eek: till she gone mad:s22: She went straight to the genneva office and make a BIG "WOO-HAA"
then she got it back=:p (those who can't get back on time can try this!)

She got back different serial number and also different pcs of gold!!!
the worst part is... since she join in as a premier member her discount was never delay before (for those small account yes delay and delay as good as no pay) she never get her discount on that day...

the above information is for those people who really need HELP to take note... :s12:

So can confirm with your friend the gold she collected back is "some other brand like Lion Head or their own Genneva gold."? Got any pics she can share to show the hallmark, etc, so that the experts here can verify how likely it is that the gold is genuine.
 

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Actually the 3 scenarios you shared previously covers it all really. From the current situation, the only chance they can get the full money back in future is your option 2. Option 1 is likely to be a complete loss while option 3 is to cut your losses as per the risk you accepted when you bought into this.

Any legal experts willing to share any other scenarios which can help the affected people given the situation they are faced with now.

I don't see why we should help anymore less I would be called working for Geneva. Yes there are other options but shall no be bothered to say because this is your problem as some people are so unappreciative and called people names when I have all along been against Geneva. Go solve your own problem. My Last post in this thread.
 

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bar3.jpg


Bar2.JPG


Bar4.jpg


Tungsten rods clearly seen within the 1kg Metalor gold bar. And thinking 500g or 50g bars cannot be done? Think again.

Good luck to those who exchange their UOB or Pamp Gold with some unknown Geneva brand.

Every scam would have people who are gulible to fall into it. Knowledge is wisdom, unfortunately many can't be bothered to acquire it.

Cheers.
 

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just got a confirm news from existing genneva permier customer (those who put in 1 million and above on a single account) she was force to do renewal by her up-line, and only if she do the renewal then she will get her discount!
The up-line promise and guarantee she will get back both gold and discount on wednesday, so she put her 1 kg UOB gold bar with genneva on friday and was told to collect on wednesday...

but wednesday when she came and collect she was told to stay away from the office (cause still got new customers sign into the scam plan) just wait for the phone call then come and collect..

She waited till very late.. almost waited for 9 hours:eek: till she gone mad:s22: She went straight to the genneva office and make a BIG "WOO-HAA"
then she got it back=:p (those who can't get back on time can try this!)

She got back different serial number and also different pcs of gold!!!
the worst part is... since she join in as a premier member her discount was never delay before (for those small account yes delay and delay as good as no pay) she never get her discount on that day...

the above information is for those people who really need HELP to take note... :s12:


- GOLD Quality is still a Mystery.
- Nobody will use their own GOLD to do a full test include the Acid Test
(which is the most accurate)
SO THE STORY WILL GOES ON AND ON AND ON.........
 

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U r sweet!!!

bar3.jpg


Bar2.JPG


Bar4.jpg


Tungsten rods clearly seen within the 1kg Metalor gold bar. And thinking 500g or 50g bars cannot be done? Think again.

Good luck to those who exchange their UOB or Pamp Gold with some unknown Geneva brand.

Every scam would have people who are gulible to fall into it. Knowledge is wisdom, unfortunately many can't be bothered to acquire it.

Cheers.

first of all... thank for sharing those picture to let people have better understanding of current situation!!

Lucky you are not NEW here... thanks antway...:s12:
 

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sinvestg, sorry to ask you this when do you get this information from?
are you the one that bring back to genneva to do renewal and this is actually happened to your case?

if this is true fact... is very scary now... they might just sell any gold bar in hand as soon as they can during the 3 days while you return them the gold bar for renewal.... when come to the date of collection they just pass you any gold bar they still have in hand...

which mean those who pass their gold bar for renewal might be a total loss in this genneva scam!!! (provided your information is real situation now):s12:

it happened to my friend, i saw the 100g gold bar he got back from agent has a Merlion Head in a resealable clear bag. There is some kind of seal on the bag which has been broken. Did not notice what's on the seal though, will try to ask my friend to take picture. The original gold brought in for renewal was a sealed PAMP
 

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Does anyone notice a lot of people who post here other than the few senior members are all new registered user?

Bcos they all pressing the panic button liao.

Quickly register a new name and ask for help. :s13::s22:

Too bad, I cannot help. But I can watch how human greed is greater than common sense and logic. :(
 

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A top-of-the-line fake gold bar should match the color, surface hardness, density, chemical, and nuclear properties of gold perfectly. To do this, you could could start with a tungsten slug about 1/8-inch smaller in each dimension than the gold bar you want, then cast a 1/16-inch layer of real pure gold all around it. This bar would feel right in the hand, it would have a dead ring when knocked as gold should, it would test right chemically, it would weigh *exactly* the right amount, and though I don't know this for sure, I think it would also pass an x-ray fluorescence scan, the 1/16" layer of pure gold being enough to stop the x-rays from reaching any tungsten. You'd pretty much have to drill it to find out it's fake. (Unless, of course, central bank gold inspectors are wise to this trick and have developed a test for it: Something involving speed of sound say, or more powerful x-rays, or perhaps neutron activation analysis.

Or anyone will break their Gold Bar ?
 
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