Proposal Ring - Part 2

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I spent 2.9K for the below. Did I overpaid (bought locally)?

Diamond + 18K white gold ring

Light Return Very Good
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Very Good
Spread Very Good

Decided on this diamond. Got HCA1.9

Measurements 4.86 - 4.89 x 2.99 mm
Carat Weight 0.43 carat
Color Grade E
Clarity Grade VS1
Cut Grade Excellent
Depth 61.4 %
Table 58 %
Crown Angle 36.0°
Crown Height 15.5%
Pavilion Angle 40.6°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 75%
Girdle Medium, Faceted, 3.0%
Culet None
Polish Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Fluorescence None
Clarity Characteristics Crystal, Cloud, Needle
 

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I spent 2.9K for the below. Did I overpaid (bought locally)?

Diamond + 18K white gold ring

Light Return Very Good
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Very Good
Spread Very Good

Based on the limited info u provide, it is an okay price if you compare to chain Jewellery stores. Good deal. But IMHO, I would never buy this stone at such a price due the high crown angle. Not my preference. anyway, since u already bought it. I am sure it relatively bright and vibrant based on the way GIA grades cuts. (mainly by observations )
 

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The specs are in the ideal range, so they are good stones. But If u are buying super ideals, then these stones may not be the right ones. As for comparison, without scope images it is hard to compare. blue Nile has this problem of not providing scope images.
 

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If you wanna talk about Bang for Buck, then just go for the biggest carrot and ignore the other specs. Its the most obvious to the eye and first thing that comes to people's mind when making comparisons.

Hmm, I do not agree. Carat weight only looks good on paper. There are 1 carat stones which looks smaller than 0.8 stones. To maximize your budget, it is extremely subjective. It depends on what u prioritize among the 4C.
 

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Based on the limited info u provide, it is an okay price if you compare to chain Jewellery stores. Good deal. But IMHO, I would never buy this stone at such a price due the high crown angle. Not my preference. anyway, since u already bought it. I am sure it relatively bright and vibrant based on the way GIA grades cuts. (mainly by observations )

Thanks. Manage to find this info online.

The AGS Ideal 0 Cut grade includes a narrow range of crown angles from 33.7 degrees to 35.8 degrees.
 

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Thanks. Manage to find this info online.

The AGS Ideal 0 Cut grade includes a narrow range of crown angles from 33.7 degrees to 35.8 degrees.

If u hve done yr research before getting the stone n u r happy with it's performance then so be it, whether it is a GIA or a AGS it's a personal preference I feel. Tat said if u play ard with the HCA, a slight change to yr crown angle to 35.8 give a better score for this stone :p
 
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guys which is better ? anyone bought from blue nile before ? their prcies seems attractive

0.56-Carat Blue Nile Signature Round Diamond- HCA 1.3, the hearts looks somewhat chaotic, based on their optical and symmetry analysis given, there maybe some light leakage.
0.56-Carat Blue Nile Signature Round Diamond - HCA 1.0, the hearts looks decent, based on their optical and symmetry analysis given, not sure if the stone is tilted, it seems the centre is off and there maybe light leakage, also the dossier did not indicate where the feather is located.
0.54-Carat Blue Nile Signature Round Diamond- HCA 1.5, the hearts looks decent, based on their optical and symmetry analysis, it seems there maybe some light leakage, not sure what is an etch channel though

Like what zeally mentioned, it will be good to have the ideal scope images of the stones.
 

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Hi all,

Need your advise.
I have shortlisted three diamonds that I saw on Bluenile.
Am wondering which would give me more bang for my buck.

Diamond 1
HCA score is 1.4
GIA 2156249656
0.51 carat
SI1 - should be SI2
Ideal
E
S$1485

Diamond 2
HCA score is 1.5
GIA 5156337547
0.47 carat
VS2
Ideal
E
S$1566

Diamond 3
HCA score is 1.8
GIA 2156236383
0.52 carat
SI2
Ideal
G
S$1398

What other factors should I compare between these three?

I agree with bedposthalo, it is kinda risky to buy SI stones without looking at the stone in person. The inclusions maybe really undesirable. Out of the 3 stones, I would choose the first one as the proportion seems to be better though as mentioned by bedposthalo it would be safer to get the 2nd one being a VS stone =:p
 

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Hi all,

Like the rest of the forumers here, i am in the midst of getting a proposal ring for my girlfriend.

To check, do you recommend designing the setting with the resizing option in mind? My concern is the setting i am going for has designs, patterns and diamonds bits around it. There will be a "break" if resizing option is provided - this means the setting does not have the designs consistent around the ENTIRE setting. What do you guys think? Any thoughts or advices will be very much appreciated.
 

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Hi all,

Need your advise.
I have shortlisted three diamonds that I saw on Bluenile.
Am wondering which would give me more bang for my buck.

Diamond 1
HCA score is 1.4
GIA 2156249656
0.51 carat
SI1
Ideal
E
S$1485

Diamond 2
HCA score is 1.5
GIA 5156337547
0.47 carat
VS2
Ideal
E
S$1566

Diamond 3
HCA score is 1.8
GIA 2156236383
0.52 carat
SI2
Ideal
G
S$1398

What other factors should I compare between these three?

I agree with bedposthalo, it is kinda risky to buy SI stones without looking at the stone in person. The inclusions maybe really undesirable. Out of the 3 stones, I would choose the first one as the proportion seems to be better though as mentioned by bedposthalo it would be safer to get the 2nd one being a VS stone =:p

Another problem is that you have made a mistake regarding prices. If those were USD then it would be more possible. Bluenile ain't that cheap.
 

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Hi all,

Like the rest of the forumers here, i am in the midst of getting a proposal ring for my girlfriend.

To check, do you recommend designing the setting with the resizing option in mind? My concern is the setting i am going for has designs, patterns and diamonds bits around it. There will be a "break" if resizing option is provided - this means the setting does not have the designs consistent around the ENTIRE setting. What do you guys think? Any thoughts or advices will be very much appreciated.

You would have to check with the shop whether if your design can be resized. Some designs look non-resizable but actually, the shop can do it. However, some simple designs which you think is resizable, the shop can't do it.

Anyway, if you do not want to resize, then get a bigger size. you can always use the wedding band as a stopper to prevent the ring from coming out. But if your gf intends to wear it regularly everyday, a simpler design might be more suitable.
 

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Does anyone knows if Love and Co Lovemark series is equivalent to Super Ideal Cut?

The Lovemark series is not Super Ideal Cut... its more towards an average cut..

If I were to rank them, it should be

1) Super Ideal Cut
2) Hearts on Fire
3) Destinee
4) Lazare
5) the rest
 

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Called up to enquire (KPO me), according to the SA that picks up the call said that Love and Co Lovemark series (their signature) is certified by IGI... and they do have GIA certified diamonds but very limited wor...:s22:
 

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Called up to enquire (KPO me), according to the SA that picks up the call said that Love and Co Lovemark series (their signature) is certified by IGI... and they do have GIA certified diamonds but very limited wor...:s22:

Serious?? If it's IGI certified, then its not even an Ideal diamond... hur hur
 

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Thanks guys for checking out. But when you mentioned "not even Ideal" which guideline do you use? The bluenile "Ideal"?
 
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Thanks guys for checking out. But when you mentioned "not even Ideal" which guideline do you use? The bluenile "Ideal"?

GIA "excellent" and AGS "Ideal" :) Correct me if I am wrong guys:D

Ideal meaning the proportions of the diamond is Ideal..
Like table, depth, crown, pavillion angles are Ideal.. For eg. HCA calls any diamonds with a score of 2 of below to be "Ideal".

If I'm not mistaken, diamonds with very good proportions with very low HCA scores are still Ideal cuts.. you can only confirm if the diamond is a Super Ideal Cut with the aset and hearts and arrows scope.
 
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