Proposal Ring - Part 2

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The 0.97 sounds like a good buy to me. The price jumps a lot once over 1.00ct. When people see the 0.97, they'll probably all think it's a 1ct anyway

Does the price seem fair? I was hoping to get better specs with the price but...
 

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Does the price seem fair? I was hoping to get better specs with the price but...

If you compare with the other bros here, it is about there. And yours is the Cushion Brellia right?
Don't worry, for that extra bling, it'll be worth it :s12:
 

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haven order any wedding bands yet, just collect proposal ring, still got long way to go lol.

i found that picture online. i showed Jann, he said its customised by his customer.

how much you paid for your bands?

Ohh.. Mine was in a way customized too. They had alot of designs off the shelf and we just chose the design we wanted and then customize the thickness to our preference. My fiancee wanted a thinner band so can wear together with her diamond ring better while I wanted a thicker one. The set was 2k. One thing I like about the bands is that the inner part is fully solid. There are some where the inner part is hollow which makes the bands feel very light.. Usually chain stores will sell these kind of bands.
 

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Ohh.. Mine was in a way customized too. They had alot of designs off the shelf and we just chose the design we wanted and then customize the thickness to our preference. My fiancee wanted a thinner band so can wear together with her diamond ring better while I wanted a thicker one. The set was 2k. One thing I like about the bands is that the inner part is fully solid. There are some where the inner part is hollow which makes the bands feel very light.. Usually chain stores will sell these kind of bands.

Mind sharing what's the total carat size for the lady's wedding band?
 

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They all have the same amount of facets. Its just which one is cut more optimally that will make the diamond more brilliant. They did a video and explained the difference in their blogs - http://jannpaul-diamonds-paul.blogspot.sg/2012/07/what-makes-jp-diamond-part-3-super.html



IDEAL VS SUPER IDEAL (Important)

Ideal
Let's first talk about what is an Ideal cut. I'd like to first say that there is no absolute definition. There should be, but there isn't. Why? Originally it should be defined as a proper set of proportions defined by Marcel Towlkowsky. However, you will find tons and tons of jewelers internationally and locally that sell "ideal" diamonds that fall way out of this set of proportions and then they brand it, and they laser inscribe it on their certificate, and they define ideal that way. So at the end of the day, how can we define what is Ideal?


The HCA / Hollow's Cut advisor is a great Tool to help you out with this. That's me and Mr Holloway at the Las Vegas convention, great man who developed this tool for free(also developed the idealscope)and for people to filter out the good diamonds from the bad. There are limitations in the HCA as well which is why its only a filtering tool, which I will cover later.

Super Ideal
In a nutshell, an ideal cut is a given set of proportions of a diamond that returns majority of light. So what is a Super Ideal? A Super set of proportions of a diamond that returns majority of light?


Unfortunately the term Super Ideal is even more misused that the term ideal. Half the time jewelers will just use it for the sake of using it, even though they don't even know the definition to it.

Ideal Sports Car or Super Sports Car

This is probably a poor example, but it's more or less the best I can cook up in my head at this point of time, the Toyota MRS is an ideal sports car. To drive fast, top down, 2 seater, more or less gets the job done. The Ferrari is the super sports car. Does everything a normal sports car can do, but does everything better and looks better.

The ideal diamond gets the job done in returning light, however the super ideal diamond does everything better.

The difference is, between a MRS and a Ferrari there is a huge price difference. However a Super Ideal vs an Ideal can sometimes cost the same, cheaper or slightly more expensive.


Ideal Cut Diamond
- Ideal set of proportions to return majority of light


Super Ideal Cut Diamond
-A Tighter ideal set of proportions to return maximum light
-Every Facet alignment is taken into consideration
-Symmetry is taken into another level despite what the certification says. Tools are used to make sure the diamond is symmetrical from the bottom and top
-Overall light return is not enough, every facet of the diamond must perform to it's maximum potential in returning light
-Brightness/contrast patterning, fire, scintillation patterns must be taken in account. The diamond must be able to perform optimally under all lighting conditions
- Tools must be used to prove these claims. No tools, no claim.

In short, the super ideal diamond requires heavy scrutiny. Everything must be close to as perfect as possible.

Out of curiosity, does this apply to other diamonds cuts too? Like the Solasfera, Brellia, etc. I see most of the info is for the Super ideal only
 

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So you settled for the E VS1?
I initially wanted to upgrade to an Octagon too. But my SO just couldn't bear to leave her Brellia! :s13:
Post the scope images! hahah :)

Yup! I got the E VS1. It's a 0.5ct. I used their video for reference and think that size will be more suitable for my gf's hand. She has very petite fingers.

I'll post the scope images when I get them :)

I noticed more and more people are getting the Octagon diamond. Is the brilliance very different from the Super ideal? Or just the shape is different?

TBH, I didn't expect to get the Octagon.. I was aiming for the Round at first.. then I was impressed by their Super ideal cut round.. then they showed me their other cuts, one thing lead to another and I ended up with the Octagon. haha. I thought it was more unique and special. I found it to have more sparkles than the Super Ideal too. Probably because of the 88 facets..
 

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Out of curiosity, does this apply to other diamonds cuts too? Like the Solasfera, Brellia, etc. I see most of the info is for the Super ideal only

Yeah, you can use the Ideal and ASET scope on those diamond cuts too. But the HCA is only applicable to the 57 facets rounds..

The ASET you can use to check the fire and scintillation of the diamond, no matter what cut it is.
 

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Receive my scopes but not allowed to post due to low post count. Any kind soul can help to upload. TIA.

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Receive my scopes but not allowed to post due to low post count. Any kind soul can help to upload. TIA.

There you go~ Looks good :)

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