Proposal Ring - Part 3

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JA does provide ASET scopes on request. But I'm lazy to request since I'm usually only window shopping online so I just look at the sites where the ASET images are readily available.

Not all diamonds in their inventory come with an ASET image. They will only provide ASET and Idealscope images of those diamond located in their "local warehouse".

And each username or email can only request a maximum of 5 scope images.
 

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I have not made a trip to jp yet. Not sure which staff should I make appointment with.

I would have just make an appointment, and see who they assign me.

I believe each of the sales person have their own strength...
i.e. getting a lady sales person will means always can look at chio bu and WhatsApp her. And most importantly, you can get a lady's insight. Not forgetting, if you are going with SO. They may click well.
But you will have less of a guy salesperson to talk cock with you. And, he will get you back on track when you drift off track.

I would not say who is better than who. I just think, the person who makes your thing work, is the best one.
 

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I assume you prefer F colour or up and are not looking at G colour. While I heartily recommend VS2 due to value for money, this one does have a feather near the girdle which I would be concerned about. I'm sure JP is aware of it and has nonetheless classified it as Super Ideal, but I would ask to examine it closely under scope, and if necessary, under the high powered microscope, to decide before buying. Perhaps it's minor and not affect the structural integrity of the diamond, but deserves a thorough examination nonetheless.

It does look like the feather extends across the girdle, but it's hard to tell cos the picture of the GIA cert is kinda pixellated when I zoom into the inclusion plot diagram.

I did notice the feather. Thank you for also pointing it out. I wasnt sure if it was a cause for worry.

What about these scopes?

Fb7Z1
 

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Her boyfriend is one lucky guy :D

Haha, I won't know....

Sometimes, when I see chio bu.. I would also think.. character wise, face and body cannot see... Good for a short good time, may not necessary be good for a good long time.

So, I never envy. I just watch and see. :s13:
 

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Not all diamonds in their inventory come with an ASET image. They will only provide ASET and Idealscope images of those diamond located in their "local warehouse".

And each username or email can only request a maximum of 5 scope images.

Ah okay, thanks for the clarification.

Yup, they will only provide images of certain diamonds because the bulk of their listed inventory, as is the case with most other online retailers, is actually not in their actual inventory, but with diamond wholesalers around the world. Quite often they are listing diamonds which are physically in a warehouse in India or Israel etc, and you can actually find the same diamond on other sites sometimes.
 

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I did notice the feather. Thank you for also pointing it out. I wasnt sure if it was a cause for worry.

What about these scopes?

Fb7Z1

Scopes look good, cos JP scopes ALWAYS look good. :s13: But one thing I've learnt is that when you're looking at diamonds of this cut quality, a lot of the inclusions cannot be determined by the scope images. What you should do is look through a scope in person, and look at it from different angles (and follow up by looking through a higher magnification loupe), to try and identify at least the plotted inclusions. In particular, there is a rather big cloud at the bottom which you should try and identify. Once you can find them and think that they are acceptable, then you will be more assured of your purchase without having niggling doubts.

If you can't find them using the method above, ask the JP staff to find them for you. Can test their skills :s13:
 

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Haha, I won't know....

Sometimes, when I see chio bu.. I would also think.. character wise, face and body cannot see... Good for a short good time, may not necessary be good for a good long time.

So, I never envy. I just watch and see. :s13:

eh you all going to be married men soon ah, don't look here look there, keep your eyes on the diamonds! :s13:
 

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I did notice the feather. Thank you for also pointing it out. I wasnt sure if it was a cause for worry.

What about these scopes?

Fb7Z1

Yes, the feather on girdle inclusion is something you would want to take note. My suggestion is to highlight your concern to your JannPaul salesperson and go down personally to check it out on your next visit. This is something not to be taken lightly cuz once the stone chips then jiaklat liao.
 

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While I heartily recommend VS2 due to value for money, this one does have a feather near the girdle which I would be concerned about.

You have sharp eyes there bro! That's why this forum is so damn helpful, different forummers have different attention to details. Keep the useful advices flowing!
 

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Scopes look good, cos JP scopes ALWAYS look good. :s13: But one thing I've learnt is that when you're looking at diamonds of this cut quality, a lot of the inclusions cannot be determined by the scope images. What you should do is look through a scope in person, and look at it from different angles (and follow up by looking through a higher magnification loupe), to try and identify at least the plotted inclusions. In particular, there is a rather big cloud at the bottom which you should try and identify. Once you can find them and think that they are acceptable, then you will be more assured of your purchase without having niggling doubts.

If you can't find them using the method above, ask the JP staff to find them for you. Can test their skills :s13:

JP staff also couldn't find the pinpoint on mine. :s13: makes me wonder if there could have been a mistake during the certifying.
 

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JP staff also couldn't find the pinpoint on mine. :s13: makes me wonder if there could have been a mistake during the certifying.

The GIA and AGS graders rarely make mistakes. It's probably there, just hard to see. If it's that hard to find then you can be pretty assured light performance isn't affected.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I meant advertised as in word of mouth from these forums. :)

Post count limit sorry... :(

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I was wondering why my GIA cert differs from yours in terms of the information provided. Mine do not have the image of the Crystal and the indication of the feathers and cloud etc.
 

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I was wondering why my GIA cert differs from yours in terms of the information provided. Mine do not have the image of the Crystal and the indication of the feathers and cloud etc.

Diamonds below 1 carat will not have the inclusion plots. If you want the plots, I believe you can send your stone to GIA for a recertification. But it will cost more lar for sure.
 
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Diamonds below 1 carat will not have the inclusion plots. If you want the plots, I believe you can send your stone to GIA for a recertification. But it will cost more lar for sure.

Woah thanks, i've been wondering this too why some certs shows the plot and some doesnt. So it's only for 1 CT above :s13:
 
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