Proposal Ring - Part 3

[SushiBoy888]

Here are the scopes! Any thoughts?

Looks good to me. JP's standard is already very tight, dont need to worry about the quality.

 

[SushiBoy888]

Hi all, i’m getting a ring from Poh Kim for $2400 (exluding setting)
Specs: 0.48ct, D,VS2 hca 0.9
Do you guys think its worth it?

Very hard to tell if its worth it without the scopes. HCA is only for elimination. Someone did a Poh Kim comparison few weeks back. You can find his post.

 

[CaptainFantastic]

Very hard to tell if its worth it without the scopes. HCA is only for elimination. Someone did a Poh Kim comparison few weeks back. You can find his post.

Hi all, i’m getting a ring from Poh Kim for $2400 (exluding setting)
Specs: 0.48ct, D,VS2 hca 0.9
Do you guys think its worth it?

bump for you

Hope this post will help fellow bros (and sis) in their quest for their engagement rings. Without needing to read 1500 pages.

I am following up on my previous post #6455 and #6458

I returned back to JP with the requested specs similar to the diamonds Poh Kim showed me. To make a comparison in viewing.

Take note these (HOH, Poh Kim) are not super ideal cuts. But ideal cuts.

Poh Kim

0.55 E VS2 $3000
0.59 F VS2 $3150
0.61 F VS2 $3400

House of Hung (JP’s branding is their SIC and signature cut diamonds. for the purpose of differentiation, I’ll use HOH’s name instead)

0.53 F VS2 $2950
0.59 E VS2 $3400
0.58 G VS2 $3200

JannPaul (Super Ideal Cut)

0.58 E VS2 $4550

As you can see the ideal cut prices are more or less in the same price range. i managed to view the ideal cut diamonds at HOH with all the necessary scopes and different lighting. ideal, ASET, H&A, Fluorescent/LED/Natural Sun lighting.

Disclaimer: this is my own personal experience, i am not bashing or promoting anyone, neither am i an expert diamond selector or reviewier, im merely a regular joe looking for a diamond for my engagement ring. so before you flame me please take my words as a subjective view rather then biblical truth.

At Poh Kim, only ideal scope and H&A scope instruments are avalible, you will be given the scopes and can see/view all you want arrows, hearts, ideal. however there are no ASET scopes. i did the scopes viewing on a black background. On hindsight i should have done it on a white background as forumer Smileedee12 suggested. reason is because ideal scope done on a black background can mask the quality of the diamond. if there are light leakages the ideal scope image on a black background will show the leakages as a different shade of red rather than white in color thus "hiding" the poor light performance. i am not saying poh kims diamonds have poor light leakages. im just saying i should have done it on a white background.

Went back to HOH/JP was shown the ideal cut diamonds that i requested in comparsion with a similar spec super ideal cut 0.58 E VS2. Each of the ideal cut diamonds has a certain draw back in one area, its either the H&A are not perfect, or the ideal scope arrows are not as contrasting. but to my eyes its only 97/98% compared to a 100% super ideal cut. HOH was very generous to give me all the time i needed to view all the scopes of all diamonds against the SIC one. hoh has also offered to send me all the scope images of the ideal cuts and the SIC one.

After maulling over all the images, going back and forth with my decisions. i finally settled on the 0.59 E VS2 Ideal Cut. $3400. to my eyes i could only find a flaw in the H&A scope with 1 heart being 3% smaller then the rest of the hearts. the ideal scope, ASET scopes were all near flawless very very good. hence i could not bring myself to pay 34% ($1150) more for a Super ideal cut diamond with the same specs when i only see 3% difference in the cut quality of H&A scope difference. Scopes aside unless you tell me which is the SIC i can barely tell them (0.58 SIC vs 0.59 IC) apart. i will not be posting the scopes of my 0.59 E VS2 ideal cut diamond here in public as HOH told me they do not usually take scope photos of their ideal cut, but am grateful they did it for me to make a conscious decision. those who are still interested in how the scopes look for my ideal cut can PM me but I would appreciate you view the scopes for educational purposes I helping you make a decision and not for circulation.

for those who are still in the search for your diamond. i would advice you to first know what you want in terms of clarity carat and color so the store you visit can give you a shortlist of wats avalible. As Forumer GrimReaperAdvant has said get a ASET/ideal/H&A scope so you can make a objective decision yourself.

If after viewing all the scopes and you still cant make a decision, i would just suggest just bite the bullet and pay the premium (if you can afford it lol) to have the peace of mind knowing it has the best of the best cut out there so you wont look back and have any regrets of "wat if...." after making your purchase.

i think we can all agree there is no longer a need to post "help me pick which SIC diamond has a better cut" scope images here already. ALL JP's SIC cut are already 99.9999% 100% perfect in terms of cut. it all boils down to the color clarity and carat that you want. For example if u are left with a decision to pick a 0.8 D VVS1 or 0.97 G VS2 both super ideal cuts both similarly priced, It’s basically a decision of trading color+clarity for carat size or vice versa. I do however know there will be some people who have their preferred table size/ CA / PA. But that’s another story for another post.

I hope this post will be helpful to others in the future.

Cheers all and good luck to all.
Peace.

edited: proper paragraph

 

[terrorblade]

De Beers is fighting ‘fake’ diamonds from China, but who’s the real fake?

If you must buy a diamond, it makes much more sense to go for a lab-manufactured one. You’ll get more bang for your buck, plus the added comfort of knowing that it’s not stained with the blood, sweat and tears of wretched men, women and children from some African war zone. The earth did not have to be plundered or the environment destroyed to put it on your finger or hang it from your neck. So what if it doesn’t come with a piece of paper or engraved signature from De Beers or Chow Tai Fook certifying its “natural” origin?

The big guns in the industry are getting antsy about countless companies mushrooming all across China, churning out about 160,000 to 200,000 carats of gem-quality diamonds every month.

Let’s hope these upstarts proliferate and prosper, flooding the planet with cheap stones and driving this industry built on illusions back into the ground where it belongs.

 

[iori12]

SIC 0.44 E VS1 - $2950

is this scope image ok?

https://imgur.com/FKbPkxm
https://imgur.com/NUc6uBi
https://imgur.com/ZhvPNka

 

[Werewolf188]

Hi all, I’ve gotten a few quotations from JP and would seek some opinions here.

SIC
0.64 D VS1 6050
0.60 F VS2 5100

Octagon
0.613 E VS1 6000
0.646 E VS1 6350

I understand SIC vs Octagon is individual preference but maybe can share some considerations why you prefer one over the other?
Or perhaps between the 2 SIC and 2 Octagon which is preferred then I will decide SIC vs Octagon based on my budget and preference?

For info, I did ask for lower colour / clarity grade to upgrade carat weight but they do not have any stock between 0.64-0.7 range.

Thanks in advance!!

 

[Mooxie]

Hi all, i’m getting a ring from Poh Kim for $2400 (exluding setting)
Specs: 0.48ct, D,VS2 hca 0.9
Do you guys think its worth it?

Do you have the cert number? HCA is an elimination tool, so it's hard to judge based on these info.

 

[Mooxie]

Hi all, I’ve gotten a few quotations from JP and would seek some opinions here.

SIC
0.64 D VS1 6050
0.60 F VS2 5100

Octagon
0.613 E VS1 6000
0.646 E VS1 6350

I understand SIC vs Octagon is individual preference but maybe can share some considerations why you prefer one over the other?
Or perhaps between the 2 SIC and 2 Octagon which is preferred then I will decide SIC vs Octagon based on my budget and preference?

For info, I did ask for lower colour / clarity grade to upgrade carat weight but they do not have any stock between 0.64-0.7 range.

Thanks in advance!!

At first glance, the 0.60 SIC seems like a good deal. What are the clarity characteristics and is there any fluorescence?

 

[Mooxie]

SIC 0.44 E VS1 - $2950

is this scope image ok?

https://imgur.com/FKbPkxm
https://imgur.com/NUc6uBi
https://imgur.com/ZhvPNka

Looks fine to me~

 

[CaptainFantastic]

SIC 0.44 E VS1 - $2950

is this scope image ok?

https://imgur.com/FKbPkxm
https://imgur.com/NUc6uBi
https://imgur.com/ZhvPNka

Scopes are gooood. Hearts and the arrows are swee swee symmetrical. Ideal and ASET got strong light return. I dont think it can get any better than this. Good buy!

 

[Werewolf188]

At first glance, the 0.60 SIC seems like a good deal. What are the clarity characteristics and is there any fluorescence?

None for fluorescence. Haven receive the scope images, but since it is from JP, I didn’t pay too much attention to the clarity characteristics since they are at least VS2. All 4 are eye clean though.

For SIC, I also find it hard to justify the 0.04 upgrade for $900 (F to D is quite negligible to me). Though 0.65 sounds nicer than 0.6 haha

 

[CaptainFantastic]

Hi all, I’ve gotten a few quotations from JP and would seek some opinions here.

SIC
0.64 D VS1 6050
0.60 F VS2 5100

Octagon
0.613 E VS1 6000
0.646 E VS1 6350

I understand SIC vs Octagon is individual preference but maybe can share some considerations why you prefer one over the other?
Or perhaps between the 2 SIC and 2 Octagon which is preferred then I will decide SIC vs Octagon based on my budget and preference?

For info, I did ask for lower colour / clarity grade to upgrade carat weight but they do not have any stock between 0.64-0.7 range.

Thanks in advance!!

Octagon has more facets than the SIC. If I'm not wrong, Octagon is 88 facets and SIC is 57 facets. So for light performance, Octagon will outshine the SIC with more sparkles. Both diamonds will have 8 hearts and arrows, making the size of each sparkle just as big unlike the Solasfera.

I got the Solasfera myself which has 91 facets. The 10 hearts and arrows does make the sparkles abit smaller compared to the 8 hearts and arrows diamond. But the advantage is it has extremely high scintillation. Like when the diamond ring is moving, you can see alot alot of sparkles all over the place. My gf preferred this feel.

Octagon is almost like the Solasfera, just diff shape and got more scintillation than the SIC (but not as much as the Solasfera), and retains the big sized sparkles of the SIC. Ultimately is still individual preference. Octagon will be abit more special. Most people have the usual 57 facets round. So the other diff cuts will stand out more.

Downside is those special cuts don't have much stocks. That time when I got my Solasfera, I had wait some time for the specs I want. They didn't have much available that time. Don't know if its still the same for the Octagon. You got consider the Solasfera too?

 

[CaptainFantastic]

None for fluorescence. Haven receive the scope images, but since it is from JP, I didn’t pay too much attention to the clarity characteristics since they are at least VS2. All 4 are eye clean though.

For SIC, I also find it hard to justify the 0.04 upgrade for $900 (F to D is quite negligible to me). Though 0.65 sounds nicer than 0.6 haha

$900 from F to D sounds about right. Its just whether you can see the difference and is it worth the upgrade anot. lol
I thought its 0.64 D VS1? 0.60 sounds nicer than 0.64 to me. hahaha

 

[Shinji Kagawa]

Looks good to me. JP's standard is already very tight, dont need to worry about the quality.

Ive gone ahead to secure it!

Btw, how are JP with datelines? Told them i need it in 4 weeks.

 

[Werewolf188]

Octagon has more facets than the SIC. If I'm not wrong, Octagon is 88 facets and SIC is 57 facets. So for light performance, Octagon will outshine the SIC with more sparkles. Both diamonds will have 8 hearts and arrows, making the size of each sparkle just as big unlike the Solasfera.

I got the Solasfera myself which has 91 facets. The 10 hearts and arrows does make the sparkles abit smaller compared to the 8 hearts and arrows diamond. But the advantage is it has extremely high scintillation. Like when the diamond ring is moving, you can see alot alot of sparkles all over the place. My gf preferred this feel.

Octagon is almost like the Solasfera, just diff shape and got more scintillation than the SIC (but not as much as the Solasfera), and retains the big sized sparkles of the SIC. Ultimately is still individual preference. Octagon will be abit more special. Most people have the usual 57 facets round. So the other diff cuts will stand out more.

Downside is those special cuts don't have much stocks. That time when I got my Solasfera, I had wait some time for the specs I want. They didn't have much available that time. Don't know if its still the same for the Octagon. You got consider the Solasfera too?

Yes I considered solasfera, but between SIC and solasfera I thought the sparkle effect not much difference and I personally think SIC is nicer due the “bigger chunks of sparkle” as compared to Solesfera’s “more but smaller pieces of sparkle”. Individual preference I guess, hence only considering SIC vs Octagon.

Thanks for your inputs though.

 

[Mooxie]

None for fluorescence. Haven receive the scope images, but since it is from JP, I didn’t pay too much attention to the clarity characteristics since they are at least VS2. All 4 are eye clean though.

For SIC, I also find it hard to justify the 0.04 upgrade for $900 (F to D is quite negligible to me). Though 0.65 sounds nicer than 0.6 haha

I know what you mean bro. It's a bit too painful to pay $900 for a 0.04 upgrade. And they look almost the same visually.

 

[Mooxie]

Ive gone ahead to secure it!

Btw, how are JP with datelines? Told them i need it in 4 weeks.

Congrats! Looking forward to the ring photos. hahah

 

[CaptainFantastic]

Yes I considered solasfera, but between SIC and solasfera I thought the sparkle effect not much difference and I personally think SIC is nicer due the “bigger chunks of sparkle” as compared to Solesfera’s “more but smaller pieces of sparkle”. Individual preference I guess, hence only considering SIC vs Octagon.

Thanks for your inputs though.

Yeah, both will have their own effect. One point to note is that Octagon can only set with those 4 prongs type of setting because of the shape. For SIC, 4 or 6 prongs also can.

 

[SushiBoy888]

Hi all, I’ve gotten a few quotations from JP and would seek some opinions here.

SIC
0.64 D VS1 6050
0.60 F VS2 5100

Octagon
0.613 E VS1 6000
0.646 E VS1 6350

I understand SIC vs Octagon is individual preference but maybe can share some considerations why you prefer one over the other?
Or perhaps between the 2 SIC and 2 Octagon which is preferred then I will decide SIC vs Octagon based on my budget and preference?

For info, I did ask for lower colour / clarity grade to upgrade carat weight but they do not have any stock between 0.64-0.7 range.

Thanks in advance!!

Get the Octagon!! Me and bro Son-Y-noS got it too! Join the club. This one is his ring

I'm a supporter for the Octagon. If you like the shape and they have the specs you want, just go for it. Back then they their Octagon selection was quite limited so I had to wait for one in my requirement to come in.

The arrow patternings are very clear and sharp. Its like a firey meteor rock We had friends and strangers commenting on it. Sometimes, I think I like the diamond more than my fiancée. haha

This is mine, not sure how big is yours, mine is a 0.5ct.

 

[SushiBoy888]

Ive gone ahead to secure it!

Btw, how are JP with datelines? Told them i need it in 4 weeks.

Normal is 6 week. You can ask if they can do it in 4 weeks or not. Simple designs should be ok. some of the bros managed to get theirs earlier.