Proposal Ring - Part 3

[D-Aced]

Hello all,

Is this worth 3280$?

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1298956970&s=1547997980300

Carat Weight:
0.54 carat
Color Grade:
F
Clarity Grade:
VS1
Cut Grade:
Excellent


Sry, very noob in these.

Did my homework but still not very sure about things like table or depth.

 

[Miltah]

Hello all,

Is this worth 3280$?

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1298956970&s=1547997980300

Carat Weight:
0.54 carat
Color Grade:
F
Clarity Grade:
VS1
Cut Grade:
Excellent


Sry, very noob in these.

Did my homework but still not very sure about things like table or depth.

It falls within ideal cut specs.
Gia reports the lower half facet rounded to 5% so the 80% could be e.g 78-83
U will need to see scope to confirm
Comparative online ideal cut dealers would have the stone at similar price. So u could say it’s fair value

 

[lance88]

Hi guys

May I check on this ring please

0.40 carat, E, VS1, Excellent x 3.

Both side small diamonds (22 diamonds, 11 each side) adds up to 0.29 carat.

$2.6k

Is the price ok?

I got mine at 0.46, same specs but no side diamonds at about same price.

 

[KinoChoco]

Bro sorry but she dont open to people she dont know.

My friend, who's mother is a regular went with me.

I can ask... and act like you are my buddy buddy if you wanna try.

Does she provide ASET scopes to view her diamond's quality?

 

[D-Aced]

It falls within ideal cut specs.
Gia reports the lower half facet rounded to 5% so the 80% could be e.g 78-83
U will need to see scope to confirm
Comparative online ideal cut dealers would have the stone at similar price. So u could say it’s fair value

thank you. i just bought this at a lower price instead.

is it better?

excellence cut+polish+symmetry, vs2, 0.56 carat, 5.30 - 5.33 x 3.22 mm

hca score 0.7
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread or diameter for weight: Very Good

 

[nicholaspixel]

hi anyone can recommend any shop to go ? for purchasing diamond rings? budget 6k sgd.


thanks.

 

[ThiamWan]

Any advice on the above?

Yours is a Super ideal cut. No need to worry. Haha

 

[Miltah]

thank you. i just bought this at a lower price instead.

is it better?

excellence cut+polish+symmetry, vs2, 0.56 carat, 5.30 - 5.33 x 3.22 mm

hca score 0.7
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread or diameter for weight: Very Good

Not sure. HCA is only a good elimination rather than selection tool
Lower hca doesn’t mean better.
The excellent light n fire etc, are probably from calculation as opposed to a Gemex report/grading
Since u already bought, just be happy with your purchase

 

[D-Aced]

Not sure. HCA is only a good elimination rather than selection tool
Lower hca doesn’t mean better.
The excellent light n fire etc, are probably from calculation as opposed to a Gemex report/grading
Since u already bought, just be happy with your purchase

oh. miltah,

if 3 excellent and one very good
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread or diameter for weight: Very Good

is this suffice to at least say that the diamond is average?

 

[Miltah]

oh. miltah,

if 3 excellent and one very good
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread or diameter for weight: Very Good

is this suffice to at least say that the diamond is average?

Those characteristics are a hypothetical based on the values entered into the HCA calculator
But what u see might be different. A gemex report is a physical grading of having the stone actually in front of u

I’m sure it’s not bad but I couldn’t tell u the symmetry or if it’s close to an ideal cut... if that concerns u at all

There are many people who actually enjoy an old eurpoean cut diamond, less facets and hand crafted in the 1940s but with improvement in cutting technology, you get the evolution to a super ideal cut.. who knows what’s in the future? The Solasfera might be the norm

 

[nicholaspixel]

Anyone can recommend shops to go to for purchasing diamond ring ? Budget 6k sgd

 

[Miltah]

Anyone can recommend shops to go to for purchasing diamond ring ? Budget 6k sgd

That’s a really vague question to answer. It’s like asking I got $10 for lunch, where’s the best chicken rice stall.
You dun have to go back far, just a few pages and realise there’s preference for 1 stall.
Yet it’s about what the gf wants as well.. some would really like T&Co just as some people love their LV and Chanel. While some want the biggest caret and willing to sacrifice color by getting a G or H color with a lower clarity grade like VS2 or even SI1... and of course there will be those who only want the best cut.

There are a lot of stores that sell a GIA graded triple excellent, these are not bad stones but as mentioned earlier, you can have a $2-3k variation just based on the cut. So it comes down to what u want

 

[lance88]

That’s a really vague question to answer. It’s like asking I got $10 for lunch, where’s the best chicken rice stall.
You dun have to go back far, just a few pages and realise there’s preference for 1 stall.
Yet it’s about what the gf wants as well.. some would really like T&Co just as some people love their LV and Chanel. While some want the biggest caret and willing to sacrifice color by getting a G or H color with a lower clarity grade like VS2 or even SI1... and of course there will be those who only want the best cut.

There are a lot of stores that sell a GIA graded triple excellent, these are not bad stones but as mentioned earlier, you can have a $2-3k variation just based on the cut. So it comes down to what u want

hard truth but to make things simplier
1. does brand matter and good budget? - Go to Love & co, Tiffany or similar
2. if not, would you want to spend time to learn knowledge about choosing diamonds etc - Jannpaul (Intense), eclarity (Less but variable), etc
3. if not, you want it easy and fast? - Amazon/James Allen/BN etc

 

[D-Aced]

Those characteristics are a hypothetical based on the values entered into the HCA calculator
But what u see might be different. A gemex report is a physical grading of having the stone actually in front of u

I’m sure it’s not bad but I couldn’t tell u the symmetry or if it’s close to an ideal cut... if that concerns u at all

There are many people who actually enjoy an old eurpoean cut diamond, less facets and hand crafted in the 1940s but with improvement in cutting technology, you get the evolution to a super ideal cut.. who knows what’s in the future? The Solasfera might be the norm

hi. miltah bro, so if i just want a simple life, just get a triple exellence and a score <2 and thats fine? since alrd decided

 

[KinoChoco]

hi. miltah bro, so if i just want a simple life, just get a triple exellence and a score <2 and thats fine? since alrd decided

Yes, if you don’t care about pricing and don’t mind being ripped off.

Most shops won’t bother to educate much beyond the triple excellent sand sell you at a very high price.

If you do care for what you’re paying for and wants a free detailed education with no pushy sales, just head over to Jann Paul and bomb them on all your questions with no obligation.

IMO, JP is one of the best and cheapest place to get a good diamond without overpaying for something that’s not up to the value.

 

[D-Aced]

Yes, if you don’t care about pricing and don’t mind being ripped off.

Most shops won’t bother to educate much beyond the triple excellent sand sell you at a very high price.

If you do care for what you’re paying for and wants a free detailed education with no pushy sales, just head over to Jann Paul and bomb them on all your questions with no obligation.

IMO, JP is one of the best and cheapest place to get a good diamond without overpaying for something that’s not up to the value.

yeah coz i look at the heart and arrows and the ideal scope etc, all looks average, with just a bit of no good stuff. so at 3k, shld be very very worth it ba?

this ------------->
excellence cut+polish+symmetry, vs2, 0.56 carat, 5.30 - 5.33 x 3.22 mm

hca score 0.7
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread or diameter for weight: Very Good

 

[Miltah]

hi. miltah bro, so if i just want a simple life, just get a triple exellence and a score <2 and thats fine? since alrd decided

I am of the view that there are no free lunches in this world
Of the 2 diamonds u posted, the first one had better specs, there’s less info with the second one. Yet, you are saying that it’s a slightly bigger caret for abit less. That would suggest some other aspects might be compromised.. is it enough for u to see it? Or u going to be anal abt it? U can decide

While KinoChoco might be right on some points, not all shops are out to cheat u. If u know what you are looking for, there can be value outside of JP.

I was at gold heart marina recently, there’s a triple excellent 1C, G, SI1 (very eye clean, except for a mark on the table which can only be seen with a 10x magnifier) for $8k+, which showed good symmetry on the ideal scope.
Now we also know a 1C G, vs2 at JP starts at $13-14k. That’s almost $6k saving. If you are not discerning, I’m sure you could find value with idealcuts at HOH. Point being, everyone’s got different budgets n some might not be keen to pay as much for minimal improvements in cut

 

[D-Aced]

I am of the view that there are no free lunches in this world
Of the 2 diamonds u posted, the first one had better specs, there’s less info with the second one. Yet, you are saying that it’s a slightly bigger caret for abit less. That would suggest some other aspects might be compromised.. is it enough for u to see it? Or u going to be anal abt it? U can decide

While KinoChoco might be right on some points, not all shops are out to cheat u. If u know what you are looking for, there can be value outside of JP.

I was at gold heart marina recently, there’s a triple excellent 1C, G, SI1 (very eye clean, except for a mark on the table which can only be seen with a 10x magnifier) for $8k+, which showed good symmetry on the ideal scope.
Now we also know a 1C G, vs2 at JP starts at $13-14k. That’s almost $6k saving. If you are not discerning, I’m sure you could find value with idealcuts at HOH. Point being, everyone’s got different budgets n some might not be keen to pay as much for minimal improvements in cut

i like your logical thinking sir. very realistic.

but from these specs, how do u tell if it is better? they seem to have the same but hca score, dimensions all these different. yeah. e.g. i cannot compromise colour to get better specs for others. thats y it has to be D/E xD....

true that. i have very limited budget. thats y it hurts my wallet to pay so much to increase that speck of increase in specs

ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements
5.30 - 5.33 x 3.22 mm

Carat Weight=0.56*carat
Color Grade=E
Clarity Grade=VS2
Cut Grade=Excellent

PROPORTIONS
Depth=60.5*%
Table=58*%
Crown Angle=34.0°
Crown Height=14.0%
Pavilion Angle=40.6°
Pavilion Depth=43.0%
Star Length=50%
Lower Half=80%
Girdle=Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet=None
*
FINISH
Polish=Excellent
Symmetry=Excellent

FLUORESCENCE
Fluorescence=None

CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS
Clarity Characteristics=Crystal, Feather

vs

ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements=5.19 - 5.23 x 3.23 mm
Carat Weight=0.54 carat
Color Grade=F
Clarity Grade=VS1
Cut Grade=Excellent

PROPORTIONS
Depth=62.0 %
Table=56 %
Crown Angle=34.5°
Crown Height=15.0%
Pavilion Angle=40.8°
Pavilion Depth=43.0%
Star Length=50%
Lower Half=80%
Girdle=Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet=None

FINISH
Polish=Excellent
Symmetry=Excellent

FLUORESCENCE
Fluorescence=None

CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS
Clarity Characteristics=Crystal, Pinpoint

 

[terrorblade]

If u know what you are looking for, there can be value outside of JP.

Quote for Truth.

 

[Miltah]

but from these specs, how do u tell if it is better? they seem to have the same but hca score, dimensions all these different. yeah. e.g. i cannot compromise colour to get better specs for others. thats y it has to be D/E xD....

true that. i have very limited budget. thats y it hurts my wallet to pay so much to increase that speck of increase in specs

ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements
5.30 - 5.33 x 3.22 mm

Carat Weight=0.56*carat
Color Grade=E
Clarity Grade=VS2
Cut Grade=Excellent

PROPORTIONS
Depth=60.5*%
Table=58*%
Crown Angle=34.0°
Crown Height=14.0%
Pavilion Angle=40.6°
Pavilion Depth=43.0%
Star Length=50%
Lower Half=80%
Girdle=Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet=None
*
vs

ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements=5.19 - 5.23 x 3.23 mm
Carat Weight=0.54 carat
Color Grade=F
Clarity Grade=VS1
Cut Grade=Excellent

PROPORTIONS
Depth=62.0 %
Table=56 %
Crown Angle=34.5°
Crown Height=15.0%
Pavilion Angle=40.8°
Pavilion Depth=43.0%
Star Length=50%
Lower Half=80%
Girdle=Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet=None

At 0.5c I can frankly tell you that you will not detect a color difference between D/E/F.
The 0.54c is priced higher because it is a higher or cleaner clarity grade (vs1 as opposed to vs2 of the 0.56c)
The specs of the 0.54c and also more within the ranges of the ideal cut while the 0.56c is right on the edge of it

People who like old European cuts, these were diamonds measured by sight, cut by hand, will often tell u that modern round ideal cuts lacks the fire they used to see. Kind of like the rainbow color reflections u see off the diamond when light hits it. Old European cut diamonds often had a large depth 65-70% and a very small table 40-50%.

So even within superideal cut ranges for the table to be between 53-58%, some people will prefer the smaller table to enhance the fire effect.
My preference is therefore the 0.54c but not because of the better clarity grade but because of the smaller table.

Now will all this matter to you? Maybe not.
The above statements also does not take into account any scope images. Your best bet is to take the 2 diamonds out and see it in different lighting to see which U prefer