Proposal Ring - Part 3

[olivesandT]

Was offered

E vs1 0.42 SIC - 2800
G vs1 0.41 SIC - 2550

FYI
E vvs2 0.52 SIC - 4100

E vs1 0.43 Octagon - 3150
personally i feel getting the E is good. For 250 to up 2 clarity grade of the diamond.

Any advise ?

Requested scope of this 2 diamonds will receive them next week.

You mean up 2 color grade?
E and G won't have a obvious difference. My diamond is a SIC G and it does look white. Don't forget, SIC are already cut to have better light performance than normal diamonds and in return will be naturally brighter. So top view it won't have much diff. Only when you look at the side view, you can see more of the diamond color, which is still acceptable to me.

JP did a color video comparison

In your situation, you can consider the 2 color upgrade for $250. Its like the cost for 2-3 fancy dinners? My SIC is a 0.9ct, so 2 color upgrade will cost me abt 1k. Thats why I decided to stick to G.

 

[Raymondwei]

You mean up 2 color grade?
E and G won't have a obvious difference. My diamond is a SIC G and it does look white. Don't forget, SIC are already cut to have better light performance than normal diamonds and in return will be naturally brighter. So top view it won't have much diff. Only when you look at the side view, you can see more of the diamond color, which is still acceptable to me.

JP did a color video comparison

In your situation, you can consider the 2 color upgrade for $250. Its like the cost for 2-3 fancy dinners? My SIC is a 0.9ct, so 2 color upgrade will cost me abt 1k. Thats why I decided to stick to G.

Ok bro. Noted ! Haha. I will wait for the scope of the G diamond to decide!. I have the E diamond's scope but I cant post the scopes here. Any idea how can i do it ?

 

[jonleelk]

Ok bro. Noted ! Haha. I will wait for the scope of the G diamond to decide!. I have the E diamond's scope but I cant post the scopes here. Any idea how can i do it ?

All JP SIC scope will look similar.

 

[olivesandT]

Ok bro. Noted ! Haha. I will wait for the scope of the G diamond to decide!. I have the E diamond's scope but I cant post the scopes here. Any idea how can i do it ?

Usually the picture is hosted elsewhere (imgur). Click on the

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You need to have >50 posts to upload images/link. Or you can upload paste and break your image links and the bros there can upload for you.

 

[Raymondwei]

imgur.com/gallery/1XmU0QF

Hi, any bros can help me upload the pics. Thank you very much

 

[mrashford86]

imgur.com/gallery/1XmU0QF

Hi, any bros can help me upload the pics. Thank you very much

Up

 

[Raymondwei]

Thanks mrashford86!!

I noticed the actual diamond image the inner legs like not sharp. Is it due to angle ?

Also, on the aset scope 12oclock position the middle area? Got one brown part, what does that indicate ?


This is a 0.42 E vs1 SIC.
Is the images and scope ok ?

 

[olivesandT]

Thanks mrashford86!!

I noticed the actual diamond image the inner legs like not sharp. Is it due to angle ?

Also, on the aset scope 12oclock position the middle area? Got one brown part, what does that indicate ?


This is a 0.42 E vs1 SIC.
Is the images and scope ok ?

The middle part is normal. I've seen it in other scopes before too where it got some green and red mix. It has something to do with the pavilion angle.
JP's scope images are all the same.. no need to worry.

 

[jonleelk]

The middle part is normal. I've seen it in other scopes before too where it got some green and red mix. It has something to do with the pavilion angle.
JP's scope images are all the same.. no need to worry.

If due to pavilion angle, should be either all green or all red ... based on what I have read. Let pro Miltah comment.

 

[ThiamWan]

Thanks mrashford86!!

I noticed the actual diamond image the inner legs like not sharp. Is it due to angle ?

Also, on the aset scope 12oclock position the middle area? Got one brown part, what does that indicate ?


This is a 0.42 E vs1 SIC.
Is the images and scope ok ?

The first thing to keep in mind is that BOTH red and green represent light return. The second thing, related specifically to the table reflection, is that the color is a function of the pavilion main angles. Table size and crown angles do not affect it at all.
The ASET is a tool designed to reveal more information about the nature of light return than reflectors like the Ideal Scope. In the ASET hemisphere, the demarcation line between red and green zones is set at 45 degrees. Light entering the diamond above 45º is colored red by the device, below 45º is colored green.

It is the pavilion angle that determines which of those colors you will see in the table reflection in the center of the ASET in face-up view. At pavilion angles right about 40.76º the reflection draws light from the point where red meets green. So pavilion angles of 40.75º will be drawing light from less than 45º and thus be colored green. Pavilion angles of 40.77º will be drawing light from just over 45 degrees and be painted red. Both 40.7º and 40.8º are well within the ‘sweet spot’ of AGS 0 parameters. And there is potentially less than 1/100 of a degree of difference that will toggle this area from red to green.

A combination of red and green is indicative that some of the pavilion main facets are slightly below 40.76º and some slightly higher. (The pavilion angle reported on the certificate is the average of the eight pavilion mains). These variations among individual angles can be seen graphically by another great AGS tool called the VPA (Visual Proportion Analyzer).
All other things being equal, from a light performance perspective there is no observable difference between diamonds with different color table reflection in ASET. Super ideal diamonds can display either color, or a combination.

 

[Miltah]

If due to pavilion angle, should be either all green or all red ... based on what I have read. Let pro Miltah comment.

No pro but here’s a guess....

When the pavilion angle is above 40.8, it will be red
When the pavilion angle is below 40.7, it will be green light

Some put the transition point at 40.768
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/yourdiamondteacher.com/diamond-4cs/cut/aset-images-evaluation/amp/

From the GIA certs, JP likes to pick SIC with pavilion angles of 40.8 (red) but based on scopes it’s always mostly green.

As GIA rounds it, I’m guessing the SIC are usually 40.75 perhaps. But as u can imagine, not every corner is cut to the exact angle. That’s where Sarine comes in. A scan would show that there’s variations in the pavilion angles thus the different color

 

[Taraaaaatings]

Helpful info for a bro here man

 

[Raymondwei]

The first thing to keep in mind is that BOTH red and green represent light return. The second thing, related specifically to the table reflection, is that the color is a function of the pavilion main angles. Table size and crown angles do not affect it at all.
The ASET is a tool designed to reveal more information about the nature of light return than reflectors like the Ideal Scope. In the ASET hemisphere, the demarcation line between red and green zones is set at 45 degrees. Light entering the diamond above 45º is colored red by the device, below 45º is colored green.

It is the pavilion angle that determines which of those colors you will see in the table reflection in the center of the ASET in face-up view. At pavilion angles right about 40.76º the reflection draws light from the point where red meets green. So pavilion angles of 40.75º will be drawing light from less than 45º and thus be colored green. Pavilion angles of 40.77º will be drawing light from just over 45 degrees and be painted red. Both 40.7º and 40.8º are well within the ‘sweet spot’ of AGS 0 parameters. And there is potentially less than 1/100 of a degree of difference that will toggle this area from red to green.

A combination of red and green is indicative that some of the pavilion main facets are slightly below 40.76º and some slightly higher. (The pavilion angle reported on the certificate is the average of the eight pavilion mains). These variations among individual angles can be seen graphically by another great AGS tool called the VPA (Visual Proportion Analyzer).
All other things being equal, from a light performance perspective there is no observable difference between diamonds with different color table reflection in ASET. Super ideal diamonds can display either color, or a combination.

Noted Thiamwan for your information!very knowledgable !

 

[Raymondwei]

No pro but here’s a guess....

When the pavilion angle is above 40.8, it will be red
When the pavilion angle is below 40.7, it will be green light

Some put the transition point at 40.768


From the GIA certs, JP likes to pick SIC with pavilion angles of 40.8 (red) but based on scopes it’s always mostly green.

As GIA rounds it, I’m guessing the SIC are usually 40.75 perhaps. But as u can imagine, not every corner is cut to the exact angle. That’s where Sarine comes in. A scan would show that there’s variations in the pavilion angles thus the different color

I believe after all of your advises, this E Vs1 SIC's scope seems to be good !

 

[Smallqueen04]

Hi, i new here and would like to ask is anyone purchase the diamond ring from Luxiee Diamond? Trustworty? Diamond come in expectation? Thank you...

 

[jonleelk]

I believe after all of your advises, this E Vs1 SIC's scope seems to be good !

The G's scope will likely be equivalent good, and u can save a bit of $.

Diamond colours doesn't show up in scope.

 

[Miltah]

Hi, i new here and would like to ask is anyone purchase the diamond ring from Luxiee Diamond? Trustworty? Diamond come in expectation? Thank you...

Do u trust a reseller?
A reseller has no idea or control of what happens on the manufacturing site.
Worse still, u dun even get a pic of the product

 

[jonleelk]

No pro but here’s a guess....

When the pavilion angle is above 40.8, it will be red
When the pavilion angle is below 40.7, it will be green light

Some put the transition point at 40.768
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/yourdiamondteacher.com/diamond-4cs/cut/aset-images-evaluation/amp/

From the GIA certs, JP likes to pick SIC with pavilion angles of 40.8 (red) but based on scopes it’s always mostly green.

As GIA rounds it, I’m guessing the SIC are usually 40.75 perhaps. But as u can imagine, not every corner is cut to the exact angle. That’s where Sarine comes in. A scan would show that there’s variations in the pavilion angles thus the different color

I haven't seem many scopes ... but so far all I see are either all red or all green. Just like these 2 stones that I narrowed down to:

 

[Raymondwei]

The G's scope will likely be equivalent good, and u can save a bit of $.

Diamond colours doesn't show up in scope.

Yes true ! Hahah. But when i place the diamonds side by side. Facing upwards. I can see the diff. The E will be slightly more bling. but the service in JP/HOH is good. Not pushy and very accommodative.

 

[Dvoiddeckbench]

Like to check where do you all buy your wedding ring. I just propose 成功 a week ago!

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