Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Jooshengchan]

Scope are Swee! 1ct Round 10.. your diamond is gonna be damn bling man

is the proportions okay? not too sure about that.

 

[Jooshengchan]

possible to share how much it cost?

+- 14k the diamond

 

[MoneyHoney]

+- 14k the diamond

ah ok...i was quoted similarly..

 

[callmeaston]

is the proportions okay? not too sure about that.

Proportions is more applicable for the normal 57 facets round. For these special cuts, the proportions would be different. The scopes will be more accurate for these cuts. Your scopes looks perfecto.

 

[Jooshengchan]

Proportions is more applicable for the normal 57 facets round. For these special cuts, the proportions would be different. The scopes will be more accurate for these cuts. Your scopes looks perfecto.

thank you so much. will post again when its completed!!

 

[Irenicis]

Proportions is more applicable for the normal 57 facets round. For these special cuts, the proportions would be different. The scopes will be more accurate for these cuts. Your scopes looks perfecto.

Is that also why the decagons also have depth of like 65% or even 66%, which is like quite deep?

 

[karlgantry]

Hi guys, i saw that JP have these services

For those who are interested, visit JANNPAUL for the following complimentary services:
1. Free custom design consultation services with hyper realistic 3D render
2. Superimpose your ring design on an actual photo of your partner’s hand
3. Wax model of your ring design
4. Videos and photos of your ring being handcrafted by their Master Setter Miyabi
5. Full set of scope images (Actual, Ideal, ASET and Hearts & Arrows) of your diamond
6. Diamond comparison videos under different lighting conditions
7. Lifetime warranty on all of their rings
8. Complimentary after-services, such as free re-sizing, replating-repolishing, laser engraving
9. Complimentary prong checks and re-tightening

Understand that they can record a video of my ring being crafted upon request. Are the crafting videos like these? It looks damn good.

 

[callmeaston]

Is that also why the decagons also have depth of like 65% or even 66%, which is like quite deep?

For these special cuts (non-57 facet rounds), the cut proportions isn't calculated exactly based on the depth, table, crown, etc. anymore. Just like how the HCA tool won't be applicable for them too. When the facet arrangements are different, all the pre-existing croportions are not the same liao.

All I know is that all the facets generally needs to be in a specific range of placement to work well together and to reflect light (like how the light needs to bounce off all the inter-related facets to shine back out).The JP white series is supposed to have that edge to edge brilliance.

When you see the ASET of the Decagon and Super Ideal round, you can see the diff of it already. With that in mind, I think the girdle needs to be abit thicker to allow optimal light refraction. Thicker girdles can add to the higher depth, but the immense brightness will still make the diamond appear larger for its size. The idea of these special cuts is to get that new level of brilliance and fire that's even better than the Super ideal rounds. So the depth is no longer in play but more of how the facets with together with each other.

You see the performance diff of the middle (Super Ideal Round) and right (Decagon).

 

[Daffy7]

Can bargain price at JP?

 

[Daffy7]

Hi, was looking at this from James Allen. It has HCA 0.3





Going for 4.8K

 

[chesterchew]

Hi, was looking at this from James Allen. It has HCA 0.3

Spoiler

Going for 4.8K

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I thought the ideal range for the pavilion need to be minimum 40.6? This one is 40.5, but the HCA score is low at 0.3. Can someone share some insights on this?

The hearts look quite symmetrical. The front of the diamond in the Ideal scope has 1 arrow (1 oclock position) that is not straight (the arrow body is misaligned to the right). And I do see some girdle in-symmetry. I don't think this would make the Super ideal cut, but can still be an Ideal cut.

You able to get the ASET? It's more revealing that the Ideal scope. I see on the Ideal left side near at the girdle is a very light red, which might be green ASET. The AGS cert ASET pic is computer generated and not the actual ASET.

 

[Daffy7]

Aset is in the ags report. No?

 

[chesterchew]

Aset is in the ags report. No?

You see the disclaimer below the ASET pic on the ags report. It is ''computer generated''. It is how the diamond ''should'' look like, not the actual ASET of the diamond.

 

[Daffy7]

Ic. Thanks!
Where do u get your diamonds then?

 

[MyWiFy]

I thought the ideal range for the pavilion need to be minimum 40.6? This one is 40.5, but the HCA score is low at 0.3. Can someone share some insights on this?

The hearts look quite symmetrical. The front of the diamond in the Ideal scope has 1 arrow (1 oclock position) that is not straight (the arrow body is misaligned to the right). And I do see some girdle in-symmetry. I don't think this would make the Super ideal cut, but can still be an Ideal cut.

You able to get the ASET? It's more revealing that the Ideal scope. I see on the Ideal left side near at the girdle is a very light red, which might be green ASET. The AGS cert ASET pic is computer generated and not the actual ASET.

HCA is just a calculator tool. It uses a formula to calculate the basic proportions only. As long as you crunch the pavilion angle lower, it will give a better score. It can't calculate certain extreme angles. That's why its only used as a filter. But yea, 40.5 is on the shallow side.

 

[Irenicis]

For these special cuts (non-57 facet rounds), the cut proportions isn't calculated exactly based on the depth, table, crown, etc. anymore. Just like how the HCA tool won't be applicable for them too. When the facet arrangements are different, all the pre-existing croportions are not the same liao.

All I know is that all the facets generally needs to be in a specific range of placement to work well together and to reflect light (like how the light needs to bounce off all the inter-related facets to shine back out).The JP white series is supposed to have that edge to edge brilliance.

When you see the ASET of the Decagon and Super Ideal round, you can see the diff of it already. With that in mind, I think the girdle needs to be abit thicker to allow optimal light refraction. Thicker girdles can add to the higher depth, but the immense brightness will still make the diamond appear larger for its size. The idea of these special cuts is to get that new level of brilliance and fire that's even better than the Super ideal rounds. So the depth is no longer in play but more of how the facets with together with each other.

You see the performance diff of the middle (Super Ideal Round) and right (Decagon).

The same goes for the white series Round 10 too? So that means the final deciding factor should be the ASET scope?

 

[callmeaston]

The same goes for the white series Round 10 too? So that means the final deciding factor should be the ASET scope?

There was a time where James Allen and Bluenile provided ASET images (black backlit), but at least it's something. Black backlit is already limited.

Then there is white ASET backlit which only JP provides, but the real actual assessment really is a white backlit ASET on top of that being rotated, which only JP provides as far as I know amongst all vendors in the world. Their transparency and quality is recognized not only in Singapore but Pricescope vendors + consumers acknowledges JP as the best asian vendor for these reasons. But yes, the ASET should be the final and proper assessment.

 

[chesterchew]

Ic. Thanks!
Where do u get your diamonds then?

Got mine from JP.

 

[hithere1]

Hi guys, i saw that JP have these services

For those who are interested, visit JANNPAUL for the following complimentary services:
1. Free custom design consultation services with hyper realistic 3D render
2. Superimpose your ring design on an actual photo of your partner’s hand
3. Wax model of your ring design
4. Videos and photos of your ring being handcrafted by their Master Setter Miyabi
5. Full set of scope images (Actual, Ideal, ASET and Hearts & Arrows) of your diamond
6. Diamond comparison videos under different lighting conditions
7. Lifetime warranty on all of their rings
8. Complimentary after-services, such as free re-sizing, replating-repolishing, laser engraving
9. Complimentary prong checks and re-tightening

Understand that they can record a video of my ring being crafted upon request. Are the crafting videos like these? It looks damn good.

requested for the crafting video and JP gladly provided

it adds a personal touch to the entire already very customized experience in JP

my partner loves her ring, and on top of that was surprised a video was specially made just for her ring

 

[Hein L Z]

Hi diamond gurus, I need your kind advice. I have visited JP last week for shopping for my engagement ring. I am quite disappointed that there are only two diamonds available for my budget. Ideally I would like to have the range from 0.45 to 0.49 carat with color F and above with super ideal cut of course. Followings are the diamond that JP presented to me;

1. 0.41 VVS1 E GIA report 7338554745; price 2750
2. 0.514 VVS2 G AGS report 104111767002; price 3500

In online store like, Michael Trio I am able to get similar specs with their pure heart cutting about 1000 less.
Please let me know your opinion on each diamond in terms of quality and pricing. Which will should I go for?