Proposal Ring - Part 4

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Jannpaul has an emerald white series, just went down last weekend. I've been looking all over for a nice emerald online and in stores, is crazy bright. I think I've looked at 40-50 different emeralds from different vendors since early 2020 and theres nothing like this at all. I'm custom cutting one, letting you bros know they carry one if your SO likes emeralds since it's not on their instagram or facebook.

Hi akimakisato, is this the emerald that you're custom cutting?? Saw this on their video. May I know what are the prices like?

 

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Hi akimakisato, is this the emerald that you're custom cutting?? Saw this on their video. May I know what are the prices like?



Yes. That's their Emerald 2.0 I ordered. They only have the prototype when I was there. I custom ordered a 0.6ct for abt 4k. They give me an estimated cost range first cos its a new cut so the pricing isnt finalized yet. You should see it in real life. They showed it to me outdoors and it looks damn bright and shiny. The long rectangle panels is very symmetrical and flashy. And I find the elongated shape makes the diamond look bigger for its carat weight too.
 

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hi all, any comments on this diamond.

Shape and Style: Decagon Brilliant
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade: AGS 0 (D)
Clarity Grade: AGS 2 (VVS2)


https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104114298022/grading-report?weight=0.542

Nice Decagon. High color and clarity too. I think for their white series / decagon, no need to go for such a high color since they are made to be brighter. When I was there, I saw a G Color decagon looking even brighter and whiter than a E color SIC. So I think you can save on the color since the cut is already so good. But if you want a D for the mind clean and the cost diff is not too much, no harm getting the best color.
 

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Hi Gurus!

Been lurking here without commenting for over a year! Finally decided to go ahead with JP and ordered a R10 (cause the girl likes). It just arrived about a week back and would like to seek some views and opinions on the following scope images and measurements. Should I be concerned about the two relatively large inclusions on the "face" of the diamond?

(Adding a space after the // cause cannot my account post URLS)

https:// ibb.co/nqppLSt
https:// ibb.co/Ybb8Wqx
https:// ibb.co/Yfyxrhx
https:// ibb.co/yFtGgp8
https:// ibb.co/LzW3YBT

Additionally for those who have customized their rings with JP before, would you be able to share if you need to provide them with the ring idea you have in mind, or is there someone that will work with you on ring design based on suggestions and ideas discussed and from there a design can be drafted by them? I know some boutique stores do these kind of service, and was wondering if anyone has done something similar with JP?

Thanks so much!
 

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Hi Gurus!

Been lurking here without commenting for over a year! Finally decided to go ahead with JP and ordered a R10 (cause the girl likes). It just arrived about a week back and would like to seek some views and opinions on the following scope images and measurements. Should I be concerned about the two relatively large inclusions on the "face" of the diamond?

(Adding a space after the // cause cannot my account post URLS)

https:// ibb.co/nqppLSt
https:// ibb.co/Ybb8Wqx
https:// ibb.co/Yfyxrhx
https:// ibb.co/yFtGgp8
https:// ibb.co/LzW3YBT

Additionally for those who have customized their rings with JP before, would you be able to share if you need to provide them with the ring idea you have in mind, or is there someone that will work with you on ring design based on suggestions and ideas discussed and from there a design can be drafted by them? I know some boutique stores do these kind of service, and was wondering if anyone has done something similar with JP?

Thanks so much!
Hi,

May I check how much you were quoted for this piece? Thank you!
 

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Hi Gurus!

Been lurking here without commenting for over a year! Finally decided to go ahead with JP and ordered a R10 (cause the girl likes). It just arrived about a week back and would like to seek some views and opinions on the following scope images and measurements. Should I be concerned about the two relatively large inclusions on the "face" of the diamond?

(Adding a space after the // cause cannot my account post URLS)

https:// ibb.co/nqppLSt
https:// ibb.co/Ybb8Wqx
https:// ibb.co/Yfyxrhx
https:// ibb.co/yFtGgp8
https:// ibb.co/LzW3YBT

Additionally for those who have customized their rings with JP before, would you be able to share if you need to provide them with the ring idea you have in mind, or is there someone that will work with you on ring design based on suggestions and ideas discussed and from there a design can be drafted by them? I know some boutique stores do these kind of service, and was wondering if anyone has done something similar with JP?

Thanks so much!

Congrats! Loaded your scopes for other shifus to comment. You mean the inclusions on the clarity plot diagram on the cert? I don't see the inclusions on the scope photos so it probably means that the inclusions are too minor. The clarity plot only shows the location of the inclusion but not its severity. Plus I know JP doesn't take in black inclusions and only the eye clean ones. So you shld be safe on that front. You're scopes looks great btw.

I rem JP gives a ring design education too and have many designs to choose and customize from. I chose customize my design based on an existing design they have, then just made some small changes. Their diamond specialist shld be able to advise you on that. Anyway their customizations are FOC so you might as well make use of it.

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Congrats! Loaded your scopes for other shifus to comment. You mean the inclusions on the clarity plot diagram on the cert? I don't see the inclusions on the scope photos so it probably means that the inclusions are too minor. The clarity plot only shows the location of the inclusion but not its severity. Plus I know JP doesn't take in black inclusions and only the eye clean ones. So you shld be safe on that front. You're scopes looks great btw.

I rem JP gives a ring design education too and have many designs to choose and customize from. I chose customize my design based on an existing design they have, then just made some small changes. Their diamond specialist shld be able to advise you on that. Anyway their customizations are FOC so you might as well make use of it.
Ah thank you so much! Yup the inclusion on the cert! Very comforting to know that its probably too minor :)

Re the ring design - Will definitely reach out to the diamond specialist to make an appointment to go through!
Just for clarity, would you need to provide a sketched design, or would the diamond specialist/JP team be able to do that based on discussions? Asking cause i failed Art in school xD
 

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Hi,

May I check how much you were quoted for this piece? Thank you!
This was a custom order which was made quite a number of months back (about 3-4 months), so the price then and now could be very different. For their R10 1ct, definitely above $10k.

If you are thinking of going down the same route, from my experience, your diamond specialist (Mine is Marie) will identify, together with you, the range of specifications you are looking for. Subsequently, a price range will quoted by JP based on the range of specs agreed. If the eventual sales price after the diamond is cut exceeds the range, then JP will "absorb" the difference, and you only pay the maximum quoted price in the price range previously quote d by JP. If it is within the range, then all good.

Alternatively, I know JP has loose diamonds in their store which can give a good indication of how much certain specs will eventually cost - I spent quite some time searching their loose pieces too before deciding to make a custom order instead.
 

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Ah thank you so much! Yup the inclusion on the cert! Very comforting to know that its probably too minor :)

Re the ring design - Will definitely reach out to the diamond specialist to make an appointment to go through!
Just for clarity, would you need to provide a sketched design, or would the diamond specialist/JP team be able to do that based on discussions? Asking cause i failed Art in school xD
Design wise they will help you la. Don't need to sketch yourself. They will do a 3D drawing for you to proportion and can do a wax model of your ring before you confirm the design. You can discuss your design options with them and they will recommend you some in your preference too.
 

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Hello everyone, are you able to provide some feedbacks for this diamond? Thinking of getting a custom cut or just get those currently available in store









 
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Hi all experts, would like to seek your opinion on this diamond.

Any issues with the proportion? I know this is a cushion diamond, so I can't compare it to the most ideal round proportion. Like, is the table % too narrow? Is the girdle too thick?

Should I be worried about the feather inclusion? I read up that they are a small internal crack and if they are present from top to bottom, it could compromise the durability of the diamond.

https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104114149044/grading-report
I am currently waiting for scope images, will update again once I receive them.

Appreciate your views.
Finally got the scope images:
 

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Hello everyone, are you able to provide some feedbacks for this diamond? Thinking of getting a custom cut or just get those currently available in store










That's their Round 10 White Series. Very nice! Other than the high color and clarity (which I think some bros here feel might be an overkill as their cut already amplifies the diamond), it looks like a great piece.
 

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Finally got the scope images:

I also reserved 8 Hearts and Arrows cushion, my table is 52.4%, depth is 66.8%. I read online that convention cushion cut good table is 58% to 65%. However, I suspect that they cut 50 - 55% on purpose as they have a lot more facets. Also waiting for experts to chime in :D
 

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I also reserved 8 Hearts and Arrows cushion, my table is 52.4%, depth is 66.8%. I read online that convention cushion cut good table is 58% to 65%. However, I suspect that they cut 50 - 55% on purpose as they have a lot more facets. Also waiting for experts to chime in :D

Yours is a cushion shape so its different. Cushions are known to have longer depth becos of the way it is measured (length to breadth). Cushions or square shapes have longer diagonal diameter length compared to rounds, which won't be taken into account in the depth %. So it's normal for those shapes to have longer depth. And I think yours is their hearts and arrows too. It will have its own ideal proportion ranges. But its still better to use the scopes to analyze. That will still be the most accurate.
 

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just curious what's the trend for engagement and proposal ring now

this was the trend 5 years ago
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Hi has anyone proposed with a lab-grown diamond and regretted it? It saves a lot of money but it just feels like it’s not the real deal.

I know how it is literally the same thing (except for a certificate which labels them as “natural” and “lab-grown”) and how diamonds are actually intrinsically worthless and made expensive because by the industry players, but we’re still proposing with diamonds because it is a social norm right?

I am afraid that one day I will regret not paying that few thousand dollars and getting a natural diamond for this once-in-a-lifetime moment of my life (unless I marry again lolz)
 

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Hi has anyone proposed with a lab-grown diamond and regretted it? It saves a lot of money but it just feels like it’s not the real deal.

I know how it is literally the same thing (except for a certificate which labels them as “natural” and “lab-grown”) and how diamonds are actually intrinsically worthless and made expensive because by the industry players, but we’re still proposing with diamonds because it is a social norm right?

I am afraid that one day I will regret not paying that few thousand dollars and getting a natural diamond for this once-in-a-lifetime moment of my life (unless I marry again lolz)
The short answer: Don't propose with lab-grown unless she is perfectly okay and in fact, requests for it

The long answer to this question ultimately lies in whether the person you are proposing to is okay with anything else other than natural diamond. I have a friend that proposed with Sapphire, but only because the GF loved the gem.

If you have no clue what her preferences are (like most of us), always better to be safe than sorry.

After we propose, her friends will see the ring, and the comparison will begin. "Wah so nice! How many carat? How much? Buy from where?". From there, her peers may find out that it is a lab-grown diamond and possible bad comments may surface. Even if she didn't mind at first, there may be some peer pressure and make her feel bad.

Of course, this is pure speculation. But if you are afraid of regret, then don't get lab-grown. Just get a natural diamond within your budget.
 
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Hi everyone.

Can I check on the estimated price for wedding band with JannPaul?
For guy will be plain, female with melees.
I understand they will give a slight discount when engagement ring is from them too?

thanks in advanced!
 
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