Question About Divorce

[nonameless]

If need to pay ... Another reason not to marry. Like many law show disadvantages of marriage

 

[Acetone]

Not everything is clear cut …

 

[2_sillies_trap]

see how smut our ancestors were? just merry a virgin and so many potential marital problems could be avoided. even god also hint you by putting the hymen there already you still wanna act one white knight and pretend it doesnt matters. then mybfdl, ish desinty lai de.

 

[Song Bro]

Ignore those "textbook replies" you read which only applies in textbook...

Here is the pragmatic truth as per below...

1) by default he has to pay alimony to the wife unless she waive it, regardless of children biologically his or not his ( only possible exception is she earns substantially higher than him which in reality does not apply to most divorces here)

2) contrary to what most do not believe or choose not to believe, women's charter is aptly named as it protects women at the expense of men, be it deserving or otherwise...

3) The wife can claim that the man has maintain the not biologically child all along and pushed the court to require the man to continue to financially provide for the child... As the judge will always say, the protection and financial preservation of the children is of paramount importance...

Ya, that's why unless the laws change, realistically marriage is a bad deal.

 

[ChuppaChups]

Must say some of the replies here is v misleading and not helpful.. TS take us with a tiny pinch of salt hor… speak to a good lawyer and wish u the best for ur case.

 

[Joseph12]

If a man found out the children not his and request divorce, does he have to pay alimony or child maintenance?

If the wife want and contested, how will legal fees be settled? is it AA / 50-50?

Under the law strictly don't pay

Technically the loser pays winner's legal fees if fight
Normally don't fight
So each party bears own legal costs
But each party needs to set aside $2000 each. To pay me

 

[Char_Kuey]

ah... I finally found where I read it from before...

seems like the firm advised that still need to pay....


https://www.gjclaw.com.sg/articles/can-forced-maintain-child-even-though-not-parent/
edit: additional source that said almost same thing.

11. I got married to my wife as she claimed that the baby is mine. One year later, she met her ex-boyfriend and finally admitted that the baby is not mine. I have grown to love the baby. However, she has forbidden me from seeing the baby. Is there anything I can do about this injustice? Can I fight for the baby? Can I press any charges against her?
As the child remains that of your wife and her ex-boyfriend, you have no rights or duties to this child, although you can choose to treat the child as the child of the family and maintain the child. Although you may wish to have access to the child, there is no legal requirement for this and it requires consent of the biological parents in these circumstances.

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/single-and-unwed-mothers-in-singapore-frequently-asked-questions/

Actually no. Read with caution, you can choose to treat.. and maintain the child.

Got nothing to do with WC pawning the man in this case because the baby is not his in the first place and he is oblivious to that fact

 

[MegatonNev]

Actually no. Read with caution, you can choose to treat.. and maintain the child.

Got nothing to do with WC pawning the man in this case because the baby is not his in the first place and he is oblivious to that fact

The first link, states the following

What if I thought the child was mine, but later found out he/she wasn’t?

The court may still find that you have accepted the child, as a member of your family, even if you assumed parental responsibility on the basis of facts that later turned out to be false.

However, it is possible that the court will not find acceptance in exceptional situations involving fraudulent conduct.

 

[mryongtan]

man still has to pay for alimony & maintenance.

 

[Char_Kuey]

The first link, states the following

yup, that boils back to the point regarding being deceived in the first place and that the court decides to rule out acceptance

 

[Chemchem]

Ya, that's why unless the laws change, realistically marriage is a bad deal.

Exactly... the ruling party has the best chances when not too long ago, MPs suggested amending the women's charter to family charter to reflect its updated role of protecting the family unit rather than women per se...

But this suggestion was thrown out as ruling party MP pointed out women's charter primarily protects women and the title is therefore apt to a T...

 

[MegatonNev]

yup, that boils back to the point regarding being deceived in the first place and that the court decides to rule out acceptance

and that why I said it depends on the judge... if judge feels that you perform fatherly role and if you stop doing it is going to impact the child, gg to the person... especially since there's no custody of the child per se in this topic....

 

[Song Bro]

https://www.aware.org.sg/2010/11/womens-charter-unfair-to-men/

According to AWARE, they got propose to change to Family Charter before.
But I doubt they going to consider the provisions for guys.
From they way they put it is, cos there are less house husbands so no need to care de.

Also it is outrageous to say "equal rights in raising the child" but not "equal responsibility".
And like the act is like, want the female to have the plausible deniability card by not setting a hard and fast rule.

I propose the equal division of assets from the combined total of assets of the (ex) family on divorce.
Child wise, the wife is not absolve of the maintenance for the child regardless of custody.
This 2 clauses ensure that both partners are equal in rights and responsibility in maintaining / dissolving a family unit.
And that their liability is shared equally and amicably.

 

[Sylar22]

Previously there was a report. More than 30-40% men raising child that are not theirs.

 

[PhantomOpera]

Previously there was a report. Maybe than 30-40% men raising child that are not theirs.

Sure bo? In other countries or in SG? Cannot be in SG la.

 

[congster2]

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TS you are the one affected?

might as well go see a lawyer and get all the answers you want

EDMWers will not be responsible for their comments

You are totally wrong. Edmwers are completely irresponsible when it comes to commenting

 

[Char_Kuey]

and that why I said it depends on the judge... if judge feels that you perform fatherly role and if you stop doing it is going to impact the child, gg to the person... especially since there's no custody of the child per se in this topic....

because you quoted from a lawyer page mah, not from a judge presiding, the statement on their page is saying you can be liable and at the same time not liable based on the court decision.. if they can state outright yes or no then don't need to get business as a lawyer and the court hearing don't need proceed liao

 

[Roundtreex]

As long u pay for the baby expenses one time. It is considered you have accept and be responsible as a foster dad. The law doesn’t care it is your blood or not. Not happy go hong lim park.

 

[ChuppaChups]

Oh no… more and more misleading info here. There are ways to go about things guys… legal is such. The lawyer dun Study so hard for nothing one.. TS.. pls close thread find a non edmw lawyer la

 

[MichealScott]

If a man discovers that the children are not his biological offspring and files for divorce, the responsibility for child maintenance will still apply if he has accepted them as part of his family (e.g., raised them during the marriage) or if a legal relationship is established (such as adoption). Under the Women’s Charter, Section 70 states that a person who has accepted a child as a member of their family must maintain them, regardless of whether they are biologically related .

As for alimony, it depends on various factors. The court assesses the wife’s financial needs and the husband’s ability to pay. Under Section 69 of the Women’s Charter, the court can order maintenance for the wife based on her contributions to the family and her needs after the divorce . The discovery of non-biological children does not automatically waive the husband’s duty to maintain the wife.

Regarding legal fees, the court typically has discretion in how they are settled. In some cases, the court may order each party to bear their own legal costs, or in contested cases, costs may be awarded to one party based on factors like conduct during litigation or the complexity of the case . There is no strict rule of 50-50; the division of legal fees can vary depending on circumstances.

what if he accept the kid under unknown circumstances? Like he didnt know it wasnt his thats why he raise him?