question for sign on army

[Survivelater]

hi,
I am currently studying for my diploma left with 1 last sem with a 3.6GPA planning to go for degree and have not served NS yet. I am deciding on sign on army. apart from money, i actually do have interest on being a soldier doing training to be fit and other stuff. trying to set a target to earn 4kish per mth. and my question is since i am studying now am able to sign on as a officer? or do i need to wait for bmt? and also if i cant get in to OCS, then go for warrant officer or military expert? whats the diff between warrant officer and military expert? which one can go much higher rank to receive lesser **** between warrant officer and military expert?

for vocation i am thinking between guards, infantry and maybe commando and Intel. but if is ME i most likely would choose intel

 

[ikkozilla]

Warrant occifer ish sergeant rank lo..

And.. 4k ish need begree..
Most peopur sign on not to be chiongsua infantry leh. Army sponsor begree riaos chiu can pomote to captain.. Gotch 4k 5k..

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[firezero10]

Army is not all about keep fit. If you work for money, I don't think you can stand Army at all.

 

[marigoldhl]

1. to be a sign on officer you must be able to go to ocs in your own merit i.e. selected for ocs during bmt. the other less common route is sign on from sergeant (scs route) first - but there are no guarantees that you will be recruited as an officer this way, plus you still need to go to ocs anyway, again, in your own merit.
2. warrant officer is basically non commissoned officers. military experts are more applicable in technical aspects e.g navy, air force and some army vocations e.g. saf ammo command; where basically you are the expert in your domain of expertise. anyway intel is only for ME..

As a Military Expert in Our Army, you will develop deep professional expertise in key military domains, such as technical, engineering, nursing and intelligence.

Both WO and ME ranks are more or less the same; for WO you need to go through specialist rank i.e. 3sg, 2sg... msg, then promote to 3wo. ME is depending on education level; if you sign on with diploma then you start with ME1(3rd-1st sergeant), when you get your degree you may be promoted to ME4 (2lt-cpt/mwo) depending on demands from the organisation. it's the same sh*t but different story.

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[Survivelater]

1. to be a sign on officer you must be able to go to ocs in your own merit i.e. selected for ocs during bmt. the other less common route is sign on from sergeant (scs route) first - but there are no guarantees that you will be recruited as an officer this way, plus you still need to go to ocs anyway, again, in your own merit.
2. warrant officer is basically non commissoned officers. military experts are more applicable in technical aspects e.g navy, air force and some army vocations e.g. saf ammo command; where basically you are the expert in your domain of expertise. anyway intel is only for ME..

Both WO and ME ranks are more or less the same; for WO you need to go through specialist rank i.e. 3sg, 2sg... msg, then promote to 3wo. ME is depending on education level; if you sign on with diploma then you start with ME1(3rd-1st sergeant), when you get your degree you may be promoted to ME4 (2lt-cpt/mwo) depending on demands from the organisation. it's the same sh*t but different story.

seem like ME rank is much more spaces to climb up the ladder as ME there's ME1 to ME8 but WO is 3SG to CWO and if i had a degree i may get to be ME4 which is MWO at least ME4 i still have chance to go ME5 to ME8 rather then MWO only left with SWO and CWO? am i right to say that?

that means i am unable to sign on as a officer now and i have to go thru bmt then to go ocs in your own merit then i can sign on?

scs route is WO route right?

 

[reddevil0728]

seem like ME rank is much more spaces to climb up the ladder as ME there's ME1 to ME8 but WO is 3SG to CWO and if i had a degree i may get to be ME4 which is MWO at least ME4 i still have chance to go ME5 to ME8 rather then MWO only left with SWO and CWO? am i right to say that?

that means i am unable to sign on as a officer now and i have to go thru bmt then to go ocs in your own merit then i can sign on?

scs route is WO route right?

I believe you can sign on for the scheme. But f or the scheme to continue you u need to make it into OCS on your own merit.

 

[twinbaby]

my advice is don't sign on
1) People look down on you
2) No transferable skills
3) Cost Center

 

[lcornwisky]

my advice is don't sign on
1) People look down on you
2) No transferable skills
3) Cost Center

Agree on that

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[firezero10]

seem like ME rank is much more spaces to climb up the ladder as ME there's ME1 to ME8 but WO is 3SG to CWO and if i had a degree i may get to be ME4 which is MWO at least ME4 i still have chance to go ME5 to ME8 rather then MWO only left with SWO and CWO? am i right to say that?

that means i am unable to sign on as a officer now and i have to go thru bmt then to go ocs in your own merit then i can sign on?

scs route is WO route right?

You either start as me1 or me4. Me3 to me4 is a giant leap and rarely people made that jump.

 

[sereneamour]

my advice is don't sign on
1) People look down on you
2) No transferable skills
3) Cost Center

Hi I am new here.

Sorry but may I ask why is it advice not to sign on army? Could you explain more about it?

 

[reddevil0728]

Hi I am new here.

Sorry but may I ask why is it advice not to sign on army? Could you explain more about it?

Instead of asking why you shouldn't sign, ask why yourself why you should sign first.

 

[sereneamour]

Instead of asking why you shouldn't sign, ask why yourself why you should sign first.

Hi, I am not in army. Just interested to know the different views on signing on for army. My apologies if I shouldn't have ask the question.

 

[reddevil0728]

Hi, I am not in army. Just interested to know the different views on signing on for army. My apologies if I shouldn't have ask the question.

Nono. I'm not saying you shouldn't ask.

I'm saying you should ask yourself why are you even thinking of signing on.

 

[Magickiller9]

ME5-8 is very very difficult lei... heck CWO is more respectable than a Major or LTC..cause it's so rare and hard. only the very best of the best.

 

[beefjerky]

Once u enter army ur perspective will change. Now seems very garang right... ask yourself again six months after you enter want sign on anoy

 

[reddevil0728]

ME5-8 is very very difficult lei... heck CWO is more respectable than a Major or LTC..cause it's so rare and hard. only the very best of the best.

Why is getting a certain rank means respectable?

 

[sereneamour]

Nono. I'm not saying you shouldn't ask.

I'm saying you should ask yourself why are you even thinking of signing on.

The money? As of what I know is they will pay you a sum of money but will take more years ba. So there are pros and cons for signing on?

 

[sereneamour]

Once u enter army ur perspective will change. Now seems very garang right... ask yourself again six months after you enter want sign on anoy

But what if they said by this month or next, you will have to decide if you want to sign on or not? As of what I know, there are different sign on? So that mean there will be a later sign on date as what you have said about 6 months later?

 

[HKS_Hippo]

Go through BMT first
Fight your way to OCS

Then see if you fit the army life
Then talk about sign on

I am sure there are plenty of avenues to discuss signing on then

If you are still keen and your performance is good, i am sure people will help you inside to realise your dream


Use the national service period to gauge if you really like it or not

 

[reddevil0728]

The money? As of what I know is they will pay you a sum of money but will take more years ba. So there are pros and cons for signing on?

If you want to sign on solely for the money then you will be damn miserable if you don't like what you are doing.

But what if they said by this month or next, you will have to decide if you want to sign on or not? As of what I know, there are different sign on? So that mean there will be a later sign on date as what you have said about 6 months later?

I believe you can sign on at anytime, it is just the sign on bonus n the back pay of regular pay will be different.