(Question) Understanding mobo/cpu

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Hi all, Yes i am a dummy trying to build my new rig but instead of asking for which parts should i buy i would like to ask for a simpler, more layman explaination of stated parts so i can research which model to buy. Of course i have googled and used HwC knowledge base but unfortunately my results yielded nothing (that i understand) :s11:

Unlike GPU i understood how it works and understanding brand/models after a few pages of reading decided on one within my budget - The models are pretty much numbered in sequence

As for mobo and cpu im having an info overload from reading, i have no idea what all those numbers means, is it ddr3 or 4? How to see which models are the latest (is there a sequence on model number) how can i tell which one has inbuilt wifi?, higher ghz means better cpu right ? why are some i3 better than some i5 etc etc...

If it would be any help to give this newbie a better understanding, here are some of the parts im aiming to get

Ram - Any 2x 8gb stick
Ssd - transcend 240gb ssd + any hdd i can get my hands on
Gpu - gtx 1050 ti
PSU - any 550w probably a cooler master one
Os - windows 7
 

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What are you planning to do with this rig?
How much are you willing to spend?
Can list out the things you need layman explanation? I try my best to let you know.

Follow the following to choose the component you need:

CASE:
MOBO+CPU:
CPU COOLER: (optional)
RAM:
PSU:
SSD:
HDD:
GPU:
OS: Windows 10 Home (<$20 via carousell)
ADDONS: (eg. Extra cpu fans, LED light strips, light or fan controller box, PCIE wifi card, dedicated sound card, etc)

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Hi Singu thanks for the reply, basically i want to know more about this 2 things and anything else you deem fit that i should know so i can research what to buy myself.

1) Mobo: I know what it does but How exactly do i compare all the mobos out there? I see alot of numbers and thats where my brain fails me. (And how do i view which one is the newer models without googling each mobo 1by1)

2)CPu: Same as above, know what it does but dont know anything about all the models out there and their differences

Cant really state a budget right now as i dont know enough about this 2 to give a reasonable budget

(Gaming purposes)

CASE: Tecware F3 (Already bought it)
MOBO+CPU: ??
RAM: Planning to buy any 2x8gb sticks
PSU: Planning to buy any CM 550W
SSD: Any HDD + 240GB Transcend SSD

GPU: GTX 1050TI
OS: Windows 7 (Already have Win 7 blue core in bootable usb)
ADDONS: None (Wifi card included in mobo hopefully)
 

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Hi all, Yes i am a dummy trying to build my new rig but instead of asking for which parts should i buy i would like to ask for a simpler, more layman explaination of stated parts so i can research which model to buy. Of course i have googled and used HwC knowledge base but unfortunately my results yielded nothing (that i understand) :s11:

Unlike GPU i understood how it works and understanding brand/models after a few pages of reading decided on one within my budget - The models are pretty much numbered in sequence

As for mobo and cpu im having an info overload from reading, i have no idea what all those numbers means, is it ddr3 or 4? How to see which models are the latest (is there a sequence on model number) how can i tell which one has inbuilt wifi?, higher ghz means better cpu right ? why are some i3 better than some i5 etc etc...

If it would be any help to give this newbie a better understanding, here are some of the parts im aiming to get

Ram - Any 2x 8gb stick
Ssd - transcend 240gb ssd + any hdd i can get my hands on
Gpu - gtx 1050 ti
PSU - any 550w probably a cooler master one
Os - windows 7

Different Motherboard Manufactuers will name their boards differently so the only way to properly compare them is to google each board and see their specifications.

The main comparsion you can do from the model number is the chipset.

Firstly, the latest socket used by intel is LGA1151. There are 2 generation of chipsets that uses LGA 1151. The B/H/Z 1XX and B/H/Z 2XX.

  • Skylake 6th Generation i3/i5/i7-6XXX
  • H110 - Budget option
  • B150 - Business Oriented
  • H170 - Enthusiast
  • Z170 - Overclocking enabled for unlocked k processors i.e i7-6700k, i5-6600k, i5-7600k, i5-7700k


  • Kaby Lake 7th Generation i3/i5/i7-7XXX
  • B250 - Business Oriented
  • H270 - Enthusiast
  • Z270 - Overclocking enabled for unlocked k processors i.e i7-6700k, i5-6600k, i5-7600k, i5-7700k

7th Generation Kaby Lake chips can work on B/H/Z 1XX Chipsets as long as there's BIOS update to support them.

Further info of chipsets can be checked here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#LGA_1151

For CPUs, It's simple. The first part, i3, i5 and i7 states the number of cores/threads.

  • Pentium G - Cheapest, Best Value for money, 2 Cores 4 Threads with Hyper-Threading.
  • i3 - Budget oriented, 2 Cores 2 Threads for 6th Gen, 2 Cores 4 Threads with Hyper-Threading for 7th Gen.
  • i5 - Mid-range, 4 Cores 4 Threads, no Hyper-Threading.
  • i7 - 4 Cores, 8 Threads with Hyper-Threading.
  • Processors with "k" at the end : Unlocked Multiplier, must pair with Z170/Z270 to overclock.
 
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1) For latest Intel 6th and 7th gen processor, using socket LGA1151, it's easily distinguish into the following type of board:
H110 - most basic board, most user will fall under this category if budget is the biggest concern. Memory frequency supported is up to 2133MHz.
B250 - mainstream motherboard. Got more than enough features you need and some models will focus on aesthetic options as well. Include Intel Optane Technology support but that don't matter to average consumer. Memory frequency supported is up to 2400MHz
H270 - the most advance mainstream motherboard, same as B250 but with RAID storage support.
Z270 - the most advance consumer (note: not prosumer) motherboard, targeted for those who is more of an enthusiast but not the hardcore type. Same stuff as H270, but include overclocking and multi gpu supports.
X99 - enthusiasts motherboard. Have more stuff than z270, have quad gpu support, quad memory channel support and many more. Meant for hardcore enthusiasts and prosumers. Only matches i7 extreme processors.

Only the Z series can overclock for mainstream motherboard (x99 can overclock too but it's an enthusiast board), with the use of Intel unlocked processor, those model ending with the letter K. (eg. Intel Core i7-7700K) Those without K, all are locked, means cannot be overclocked.

For AMD side, using AM4 sockets come with these:
A320 - most basic boards, cannot overclock.
B350 - equivalent counterpart to Intel B250, but without Intel Optane as the name suggests it's Intel-exclusive. But for AMD this model onward can overclock.
X370 - Intel Z270 counterpart, same as B350 but with multi gpu support.

Both AMD and Intel latest uses DDR4 memory.

2) Processors for Intel can be found for the current LGA1151 socket, are Skylake (6th gen, like i5-6500) and Kabylake (7th gen, like i5-7500). Main difference is the core clock on kaby lake is higher, support more PCIE lanes and Intel Optane Technology. The Models are as followed:
Pentium G series - cheapest and most basic 2 core 4 threads. Most bang for the bucks for basic system. Suitable for streaming media and basic task to entry level gaming.
i3 - like Pentium G but higher clock frequency and better integrated graphic. Not worth the price though.
i5 - mainstream 4 core 4 threads processor. The most popular processor for gamer for high clock speed as games mainly uses single or dual core. Run most things really well. Jack of all trades.
i7 - 4 core 8 threads processor. With more threads, this is more focused for high cpu usage application and competitive gaming as the clock speed is higher than i5 in general. Suitable for content creation, streaming your stuff to others, competitive gaming. More expensive than i5.
i7 extreme - enthusiasts platform processor. Matches X99 motherboard only.

AMD newest Ryzen line up have similar naming scheme as well, but at the time of this post, I'll only say what's released only as of currently.
Ryzen 5 - mainstream processor targeted for people who wants both gaming and productivity work. Come with 4 cores 8 threads and 6 core 12 threads variants. All variants can be overclocked.
Ryzen 7 - 8 core 16 threads processors for enthusiasts market as well as direct competitor to i7 extreme at a very attractive price. All variants can be overclocked. For high productivity work which uses more cores and threads like virtual machine, heavy 3d and video rendering, bitcoin mining and many more.

As of currently, Ryzen pricing is very competitive and finally caught up with the Cpu competition with Intel, offering more core and threads and overclocking ability on all of its cpu variants at an attractive pricing. Though Ryzen is still pretty new, so expect multiple bios updates for motherboard, optimization from software updates to be very frequent. Ryzen have upper hand in multi core workload due to more cores available, while Intel have upper hand in gaming due to higher clock speed.

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just a question regarding the boards for noobs, say if I like to have more usb ports (especially located in front of the PC), which one should I go for?
 

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just a question regarding the boards for noobs, say if I like to have more usb ports (especially located in front of the PC), which one should I go for?
Find a pc chassis that have many ports in front lor. Otherwise, can get those chassis with 5.25 inches bay and get an array of USB hub installed in the case.

Many motherboards can more than enough internal USB port, especially atx form factor motherboard.

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