Reason for ban

[IndianChief]

If what you said about the suicide incident was true, why would you not use coherent English to post?

Wow... if this is the level of counter argument to justify ntuc points, can only say

 

[newbie3214]

Wow... if this is the level of counter argument to justify ntuc points, can only say

Lol ya, so far I haven't weighed in on this, but this one I really must point out

Cannot lah!!

 

[psytxtbk4exam]

I think the person that reported him want him to take such issues seriously and discuss it with serious tones.

 

[Kumar22]

First , i really have never reported on you before.
But even when @Kumar22 find your posts disturbing and speak up on moral issues, may be good to do some reflection. And i seldom see @Kumar22 speaking up on moral issue one. Just a humble opinion from someone who got c6 for literature for 'o' level.

Since you tagged me, I'm a bit confused here.
Why are you bringing up another user's thread?
Those remarks were not directed at either TS or JD23, it was to their friend whom I call raisin boy.
(Reason I do so, is because I dunno who to tag, there's like a few raison.de entre, i dunno which is his)
He created that thread. Not these 2.

Unless you tying all 3 together based on the similarity of their threads/posts.
And jd23 did talk of being a gigolo (or rent boy) - maybe CSB, maybe not.
Then raisin boy comes out with a thread wanting be one.
I was concerned that if he was below 18, he would be putting a lot of people into trouble.
But also, this is not the kind of things a 18 year old should be thinking of doing.
No need for me to list all the reasons, that would take maybe another tldr post.
But I'm sure you would agree as would many others, that it's morally a wrong thing to do and can have repercussions later on life. Moreover I have a son around their ages, I certainly don't want him to be doing this for money. Or even my daughter, who's slightly older but stuck in Aussie (for studies). She won't resort to such activity, she'd be doing a PT job to have extra pocket money.

 

[Kumar22]

I think the person that reported him want him to take such issues seriously and discuss it with serious tones.

I'm also very surprised to learn he got reported and moreover as just revealed, almost close to a pban?
Yeah his threads and posts sometimes, pointless and nonsensical, but it's not done with malice.
So a bit of a shock to see him reported and banned. And don't tell me, this is like the 1 month ban, since it's the penultimate one? @newbie3214 can clarify, is he on a 1 month ban?
Maybe out of jealousy, maybe out of pure spite, he certainly has a group of people targeting him.
I doubt the 'reporters' were doing it with a view for him to take it seriously. They could have simply PM him and put their case.
Hopefully his appeal to Dragon is successful, and this infarction is replaced with a warning instead.

 

[psytxtbk4exam]

Since you tagged me, I'm a bit confused here.
Why are you bringing up another user's thread?
Those remarks were not directed at either TS or JD23, it was to their friend whom I call raisin boy.
(Reason I do so, is because I dunno who to tag, there's like a few raison.de entre, i dunno which is his)
He created that thread. Not these 2.

Unless you tying all 3 together based on the similarity of their threads/posts.
And jd23 did talk of being a gigolo (or rent boy) - maybe CSB, maybe not.
Then raisin boy comes out with a thread wanting be one.
I was concerned that if he was below 18, he would be putting a lot of people into trouble.
But also, this is not the kind of things a 18 year old should be thinking of doing.
No need for me to list all the reasons, that would take maybe another tldr post.
But I'm sure you would agree as would many others, that it's morally a wrong thing to do and can have repercussions later on life. Moreover I have a son around their ages, I certainly don't want him to be doing this for money. Or even my daughter, who's slightly older but stuck in Aussie (for studies). She won't resort to such activity, she'd be doing a PT job to have extra pocket money.

From my understanding of your post, u are also concerned JD's post have some influence on raison too that y u mentioned JD in that post too.
Even without u telling me "Moreover I have a son around their ages, I certainly don't want him to be doing this for money. " i already thought that was at least partly why you are concerned to make that post. I believe u dont want your children to have bad influences for such issues too.

For other people, there must also be other issues in the other posts that struck them like the way this struck you to prompt them to report.

 

[psytxtbk4exam]

@Kumar22
If you dont mind, can i ask you how you think a shorter person would feel about reading his latest infracted thread?

P.S. i must empahsised again i have never reported on him before and all his reporting totally have nothing to do with me.

 

[newbie3214]

@Kumar22
If you dont mind, can i ask you how you think a shorter person would feel about reading his latest infracted thread?

P.S. i must empahsised again i have never reported on him before and all his reporting totally have nothing to do with me.

On behalf of @jdrevolutionary23:

"I am a short person myself too. How in the world could anyone interpret it as an insult against short people when I was merely detailing what I saw?"

 

[psytxtbk4exam]

If in reality, really a lot of different diverse unrelated people are reporting across the different posts finding them insulting or putting down certain group of people, and poster honestly cant see y, i would think at least need to work on the ability to emphatise before posting.

 

[newbie3214]

If in reality, really a lot of different diverse unrelated people are reporting across the different posts finding them insulting or putting down certain group of people, and poster honestly cant see y, i would think at least need to work on the ability to emphatise before posting.

On behalf of @jdrevolutionary23:

"Do you even know what you're talking about? The current accusation levied at me by the moderators is about my threads in which I post about interesting experiences and things that I've had and witnessed - content which does not even violate the forum T&Cs anyway. Not about threads putting down people, something which I don't do anyway."

 

[psytxtbk4exam]

Insult is a violation of the rules. From the experiences of my course mates who were active in the forum, even subtle insults of mocking a popular group results in infractions for them partly because many people were reporting on them. And they knew it was really random unrelated users reporting them because the more popular the group in real life the more reports they got.

 

[newbie3214]

Insult is a violation of the rules. From the experiences of my course mates who were active in the forum, even subtle insults of mocking a popular group results in infractions for them partly because many people were reporting on them. And they knew it was really random unrelated users reporting them because the more popular the group in real life the more reports they got.

On behalf of @jdrevolutionary23:

"You really don't seem to have a clue what the entire thread is about. And it's interesting you would talk about insults when you were the one who started a thread asking people to guess when I'm going to get a job, indirectly insulting my jobless status, as well as calling me names such as 败家子 and comparing me to a convicted paedophile in Amos yee when I was ignoring you all the while"

 

[psytxtbk4exam]

This is only your perception of what i posted, but you are free to report me if u take offended if i get banned, i get banned. It's ok.

 

[Kumar22]

@Kumar22
If you dont mind, can i ask you how you think a shorter person would feel about reading his latest infracted thread?

P.S. i must empahsised again i have never reported on him before and all his reporting totally have nothing to do with me.

I didn't read that particular thread, so I don't know what it's all about.
I usually only trawl the first 2 pages of EDMW, if a thread is not there by the time I browse, and unless it's revived, I won't know what's it about.

 

[zensushi]

A lot of spamming of threads with little-to-no-value content, causing irritation to the wider userbase. Get a personal blog if you must chronicle all the happenings in your life.

Take the time out to be more productive away from EDMW instead of creating 1001 threads a day on the forum.

 

[Mecisteus]

Yah I agree its irritating to see too many of such low value threads. No pictures, no links, no sources, etc. All imaginary stories.

 

[newbie3214]

A lot of spamming of threads with little-to-no-value content, causing irritation to the wider userbase. Get a personal blog if you must chronicle all the happenings in your life.

Take the time out to be more productive away from EDMW instead of creating 1001 threads a day on the forum.

On behalf of @jdrevolutionary23:

"Hey mod, I can understand where you're coming from. However, as I've mentioned, I do not recall there being any rule in the T&Cs that threads created in EDMW must be "of value". If an individual wants to find threads which are "of value", they would be browsing other sub-forums, wouldn't they? Additionally, the definition of the word "spamming" is also very subjective. From my point of view, if I've created 3 to 5 threads within an hour, and these threads have roughly the same content, that would be spamming. However, creating 5 threads in one day, each with different content, certainly does not constitute spamming to me. The unclear and vague definition of the term "spamming" in the T&Cs certainly lends itself to a multitude of interpretations, and I would appreciate if @Dragon could provide rough or exact figures as to what constitutes spamming? How many threads within how many hours? Or how many days? Additionally, I take issue with the assertion that my threads "caus[ed] irritation to a wider userbase". Let's say there are 20 users who are irritated, and there are 5000 unique visitors to the EDMW subforum everyday. Does a mere 0.4% of the subforum visitors really constitute a "wider userbase"? If anything, I can also claim that there are many users who are entertained by my threads.

Additionally, @Dragon, I am also waiting on your input and opinion regarding mod Ottoke's ludicrous and preposterous accusation that I was "making fun of suicidal people", simply because I created the specific thread detailing my witnessing of an incident back in secondary school in broken English. This line of reasoning is utterly absurd, and such an accusation is one which does not sit well with me. I am not going to let this go easily, especially considering I was myself an ex self-harmer (I can prove this by taking a picture of a piece of paper with my username written on it next to my scars) and used to struggle with suicidal thoughts myself years ago. Because of my own experiences, I am also a huge mental health advocate in my own personal capacity and have volunteered actively for suicide prevention campaigns where I co-authored alternative policy papers and participated in roundtable discussions with relevant ministries and agencies. Additionally, I have also posted encouraging comments to a few users on EDMW who admitted that they were struggling with suicidal thoughts, and have engaged with them via PM to ascertain how they are doing and reassuring them that they have a listening ear in me should they need one. Therefore, I find it frankly disparaging, insulting and offensive that such an allegation can be made against me by said moderator using the most flimsy piece of "evidence" which would be laughed out of a Year 1 JC GP classroom, never mind a court of law. I am therefore requesting that at the very least, the two 0-point warnings the said moderator issued based on his own fanciful interpretation that I was "making fun of suicidal people" be rescinded, and I would also expect an apology for the hurt and distress that I have experienced as a result of this wild accusation."

 

[Dragon]

There is no fixed number to define what is considered as spamming. Because it makes no sense to set a fixed number that then members can use as a rule to toe the line, ie if 10 is defined as spamming then 9 is ok. It is a case by case basis, if a post or thread is deem to be repeated excessively then it will be considered as spam and dealt with accordingly. Yes, Moderators have the privilege to make a judgement call, and it is their duty to keep forum members' behaviors in check.

If you have doubts about our Terms of Service, please refer to https://corporate.sph.com.sg/legal/website_tnc.html

We have also removed the two 0 point Warnings as per appeal. Afterall, they serve as warnings to member jdrevolutionary23 and have already served their purposes. We hope that you can post more responsibly on our forums in the future.

Closing this thread as the Moderators have responded on the matter and this thread is also being side tracked by other forum members. We consider this matter settled and do not intend to dwell on it further.