Recommendations for a 75-85" TV

[galapogos]

Hi guys,
Looking to get a 75-85" TV for new house living room. Currently have a 65" Prism so will be quite an upgrade. New living room is bigger so looking at a larger screen. It's not light controlled, but likely will have curtains, so needs to be bright enough and handle moderate glare. I usually watch streaming videos (Prime Video, YouTube, etc), or stream locally from my NAS (currently using Nova Player on my Prism Android TV). I understand Tizen/WebOS don't have native apps that do this so will have to depend on DLNA or an external Android TV Box. Audio is not a concern as I already have a separate 5.1 sound system so as long as it support eARC it's fine. TV will likely be wall mounted.

Budget is about $5000, but flexible to a certain degree. Looking at the following options (with indicative prices)
- TCL C8L 85" ($4999)
- Samsung QN90F Neo QLED 75" ($4899)
- Sony Bravia 7 II 75" ($6099)
- LG C6 75" ($5985)
- Sony Bravia 9 (not Bravia 9 II) 75" ($7045)

From what I've researched, TCL is the most bang for the buck, Samsung has the best matte coating, Bravia 9 has the best panel and processing (but $2K above budget), Bravia 7 II is somewhere in the middle, and LG is OLED so will have the deepest blacks.

Any recommendations, obvious ones from the list I should avoid, or others I should consider?

Thanks!

 

[GotBetrayed]

LG C6H 77 inch should be 5k or so, street price. Dont check online pricing thats not accurate. During clearance they will sell 3.7k ish

 

[galapogos]

LG C6H 77 inch should be 5k or so, street price. Dont check online pricing thats not accurate. During clearance they will sell 3.7k ish

Thanks. Is this the C6 OLED77C6PSA? Where do you get street prices, and when are the clearances? Do these also apply to other brands and models? Lastly, is this bright enough for a non-light controlled living room?

 

[GotBetrayed]

Thanks. Is this the C6 OLED77C6PSA? Where do you get street prices, and when are the clearances? Do these also apply to other brands and models? Lastly, is this bright enough for a non-light controlled living room?

Just go carousell check, or best is to have a good salesman contact. Usually prices listed on carousell can still nego 500+ off one for 77/83 variants. Clearance usually starts May 2027. Ya I think it does apply to other brands but I’m a LG Oled tv lover.

Erm if your room is bright, I would strongly recommend 77G6. I have 77G5 and 77C2, the C series is like a mirror and only shines in a dark room. If watch at night, 77C6H wins 77G6, but in most conditions, 77G6 wins due to its superior glossy screen but has some special anti reflective coating.

 

[galapogos]

Just go carousell check, or best is to have a good salesman contact. Usually prices listed on carousell can still nego 500+ off one for 77/83 variants. Clearance usually starts May 2027. Ya I think it does apply to other brands but I’m a LG Oled tv lover.

Erm if your room is bright, I would strongly recommend 77G6. I have 77G5 and 77C2, the C series is like a mirror and only shines in a dark room. If watch at night, 77C6H wins 77G6, but in most conditions, 77G6 wins due to its superior glossy screen but has some special anti reflective coating.

My understanding is that if my room is bright, I should go for mini LEDs rather than OLED, as they are much brighter. A G6 at that size is way above my budget sadly haha.

 

[GotBetrayed]

My understanding is that if my room is bright, I should go for mini LEDs rather than OLED, as they are much brighter. A G6 at that size is way above my budget sadly haha.

77G6 should be 6k or something. Trust me the 77G6 no horse run go shop see. Miniled full of blooming and no true blacks, no fight with Tandem Oled second gen.

 

[galapogos]

I would like to stick with major merchants rather than Carousell if possible haha. If I can get it from a legit store for $6K then it'd be an option. Anyway, another question - how does one compare TVs in stores? I understand they set to showroom mode which tunes everything up to 11.

 

[GotBetrayed]

I would like to stick with major merchants rather than Carousell if possible haha. If I can get it from a legit store for $6K then it'd be an option. Anyway, another question - how does one compare TVs in stores? I understand they set to showroom mode which tunes everything up to 11.

Those guys are legit merchants (usually salesman from Harvey Norman, courts, best Denki, confirm legit.

Well just go there and see with your eyes.

 

[galapogos]

So the sales will be from the shops rather than them personally, just that they will give some special price? If so, then still OK. I searched for LG G6 on Carousell and didn't come up with anything though.

Yes I'm planning to view in the stores to see, but as they're always playing demo videos that are super bright and vibrant, not sure how accurate they are. Thinking that I can perhaps test a few things such as reflection (take torchlight to shine at various angles), look at dark areas to see how black the black goes, look for motion stutter in fast action scenes, and pixelation/artefacts in gradients/skin tones maybe.

 

[GotBetrayed]

So the sales will be from the shops rather than them personally, just that they will give some special price? If so, then still OK. I searched for LG G6 on Carousell and didn't come up with anything though.

Yes I'm planning to view in the stores to see, but as they're always playing demo videos that are super bright and vibrant, not sure how accurate they are. Thinking that I can perhaps test a few things such as reflection (take torchlight to shine at various angles), look at dark areas to see how black the black goes, look for motion stutter in fast action scenes, and pixelation/artefacts in gradients/skin tones maybe.

Prices can nego one, 77G6 should be around 5.5 - 5.8k or so during 11/11.
Ya best is go shop see yourself. Are you buying for your whole family to watch? Or watch yourself?
If solo watch, nothing beats Vision Pro by Apple. The size of the screen is 6-8 times the size of my 77 inch Oled, super immersive.

 

[galapogos]

Wow, can nego in store until so low? MSRP seems to be $8999.

Sadly I won't be getting on 11.11, probably a few months later. New house not ready yet. Anyway, getting for family, not self.

 

[petetherock]

C6 is a good place to start
Ok for bright rooms but best in light controlled environments
Very high quality

 

[Kepller]

So the sales will be from the shops rather than them personally, just that they will give some special price? If so, then still OK. I searched for LG G6 on Carousell and didn't come up with anything though.

Yes I'm planning to view in the stores to see, but as they're always playing demo videos that are super bright and vibrant, not sure how accurate they are. Thinking that I can perhaps test a few things such as reflection (take torchlight to shine at various angles), look at dark areas to see how black the black goes, look for motion stutter in fast action scenes, and pixelation/artefacts in gradients/skin tones maybe.

Agreed with GotBetrayed on the G6 being one of the top choice for OLED. There's also the Samsung Samsung S95H options with their Matte coating if you're worried about reflections though that comes with other types of "poison" such as raised blacks caused by ambient light since matte surface will diffuse light across the surface more than glossy coatings, hence you'll be trading some contrast with reflections during daytime or room with lights turned on. If I've read correctly, the C6"H" comes with the new Tandem OLED panels like the G6, while the C6 without the "H" are normal WOLED.

For MiniLEDs, there's the Hisense (U7S, UR8 and UR9 *NOTE they do not list these higher end models directly online on shopee and are only available via physical stores Best Denki, Courts, Harvey Norman etc) and Sony (Bravia 7II, Bravia 9II).

Since you've listed the Bravia 9 75", then that is definitely the best MiniLED option in your current list as it has the better color accuracy and EOTF tracking amongst the other brands.

The best current MiniLED would be the Bravia 9 II (awarded by HDTVTest and his team of experts) if you're not going to use it for gaming. But it is also the most expensive. If there's going to be gaming involved or if you want the most bang for buck mini led, then the UR8 or U7S may be a better choice since the Bravia 9 II's local dimming algorithm is nerfed in Game Mode. The Hisense UR8 does not seem to suffer from this phenomenon based off the RTINGs reviews, it comes with a 180hz refresh rate panel and with 4x HDMI 2.1 ports instead of 120hz Refresh Rate and 2x HDMI 2.1 ports on the Bravia 9 II.

Just be sure to check the panel type and local dimming zones count of the Hisense TV to see if it is the same as the ones offered in the US since most reviewers are reviewing the US variant. Sony and LG wins in consistency as they offer the exact same hardware in all TVs with the same model name globally, so the Bravia 7 II or LG G6/C6 reviewed in the US by RTINGs and HDTVTest is likely to be the same one you'll get here in SG (based on several years worth of history).

Can't recommend Samsung as they've a history of switching panel types based on region and screen sizes despite having their models carry a similar name, so it is difficult to know if the TV reviewed by the reviewers online (RTINGs, HDTVTest etc) is going to be the exact same ones you receive locally. Source: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...d-tv-discussion-thread.6297349/post-135356580

TCL's Singapore local distributor unfortunately does not seem too reputable when it comes to aftersales service e.g warranty claims based on the TCL thread here in this forum and on shopee reviews. Read the TCL thread in this forum to see the multiple complains throughout the pages. Hence if you wish to go the safe route it is better to go for the other manufacturers instead. (For the peace of mind since there isn't as many complains in their respective threads from what we've seen in the multiple years when it comes to after sales servicing)

 

[galapogos]

C6 is a good place to start
Ok for bright rooms but best in light controlled environments
Very high quality

Haha seems like everyone's an OLED fan here? Are the other options really that much worse?

Agreed with GotBetrayed on the G6 being one of the top choice for OLED. There's also the Samsung Samsung S95H options with their Matte coating if you're worried about reflections though that comes with other types of "poison" such as raised blacks caused by ambient light since matte surface will diffuse light across the surface more than glossy coatings, hence you'll be trading some contrast with reflections during daytime or room with lights turned on. If I've read correctly, the C6"H" comes with the new Tandem OLED panels like the G6, while the C6 without the "H" are normal WOLED.

For MiniLEDs, there's the Hisense (U7S, UR8 and UR9 *NOTE they do not list these higher end models directly online on shopee and are only available via physical stores Best Denki, Courts, Harvey Norman etc) and Sony (Bravia 7II, Bravia 9II).

Since you've listed the Bravia 9 75", then that is definitely the best MiniLED option in your current list as it has the better color accuracy and EOTF tracking amongst the other brands.

The best current MiniLED would be the Bravia 9 II (awarded by HDTVTest and his team of experts) if you're not going to use it for gaming. But it is also the most expensive. If there's going to be gaming involved or if you want the most bang for buck mini led, then the UR8 or U7S may be a better choice since the Bravia 9 II's local dimming algorithm is nerfed in Game Mode. The Hisense UR8 does not seem to suffer from this phenomenon based off the RTINGs reviews, it comes with a 180hz refresh rate panel and with 4x HDMI 2.1 ports instead of 120hz Refresh Rate and 2x HDMI 2.1 ports on the Bravia 9 II.

Just be sure to check the panel type and local dimming zones count of the Hisense TV to see if it is the same as the ones offered in the US since most reviewers are reviewing the US variant. Sony and LG wins in consistency as they offer the exact same hardware in all TVs with the same model name globally, so the Bravia 7 II or LG G6/C6 reviewed in the US by RTINGs and HDTVTest is likely to be the same one you'll get here in SG (based on several years worth of history).

Can't recommend Samsung as they've a history of switching panel types based on region and screen sizes despite having their models carry a similar name, so it is difficult to know if the TV reviewed by the reviewers online (RTINGs, HDTVTest etc) is going to be the exact same ones you receive locally. Source: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...d-tv-discussion-thread.6297349/post-135356580

TCL's Singapore local distributor unfortunately does not seem too reputable when it comes to aftersales service e.g warranty claims based on the TCL thread here in this forum and on shopee reviews. Read the TCL thread in this forum to see the multiple complains throughout the pages. Hence if you wish to go the safe route it is better to go for the other manufacturers instead. (For the peace of mind since there isn't as many complains in their respective threads from what we've seen in the multiple years when it comes to after sales servicing)

Thanks for the heads up on TCL's after sales support. I was also considering Hisense U8Q, but that already costs $7000 for the 85" compared to $5000 for the TCL C8L 85". I see the 85" UR8S listed for around $7000 too (promo price), so the UR9 is probably out of my budget. There's also the issue of local Hisense TVs running VIDAA instead of Google TV.

The Samsung S95H looks like it might be way above budget too.

Perhaps rather than talk about individual units pros and cons, given my operating environment (non-light controlled living room), usage (streaming video and local media from NAS, preferably with Google TV) and considerations (best video quality given the environment, audio not a consideration), and budget (~$5K, but willing to stretch a bit if it brings a meaningful improvement), what are the best few TVs I should shortlist?

 

[GotBetrayed]

Wow, can nego in store until so low? MSRP seems to be $8999.

Sadly I won't be getting on 11.11, probably a few months later. New house not ready yet. Anyway, getting for family, not self.

If few months later can get during clearance. Should be 5k or so for 77G6. MSRP for TVs are rubbish in SG and never trust that.

if you can control light well, 77C6H to me looks better than 77G6 due to it being full glossy, colours really pop. The anti reflective coating makes the colours on G6 more dull.

 

[Kepller]

Haha seems like everyone's an OLED fan here? Are the other options really that much worse?


Thanks for the heads up on TCL's after sales support. I was also considering Hisense U8Q, but that already costs $7000 for the 85" compared to $5000 for the TCL C8L 85". I see the 85" UR8S listed for around $7000 too (promo price), so the UR9 is probably out of my budget. There's also the issue of local Hisense TVs running VIDAA instead of Google TV.

The Samsung S95H looks like it might be way above budget too.

Perhaps rather than talk about individual units pros and cons, given my operating environment (non-light controlled living room), usage (streaming video and local media from NAS, preferably with Google TV) and considerations (best video quality given the environment, audio not a consideration), and budget (~$5K, but willing to stretch a bit if it brings a meaningful improvement), what are the best few TVs I should shortlist?

If your requirement is strictly Google TV, then the Bravia 7 II and Bravia 9 would be the only 2 decent Google TV options. This is taking into account the bad rep of the local TCL distributor when it comes to after sales service as mentioned previously. While I can't recommend this, some may still be willing to bite on that risk, so it is up to your individual risk appetite.

For the Hisense models running Vida OS, this is a giveaway that it is likely to be the EU variant instead of the US variant which runs on Android OS instead. The difference is likely not limited to just the OS/Software.

Basically for the glowing online US based reviews of TCL and Hisense TVs, it is usually not applicable to the SG variants (as we've seen in the past multiple years) that unfortunately comes with different hardware (usually worse) and software despite carrying the similar model name due to EU energy regulation requirements.

If the OS and region based Hardware consistency is less of a concern (Compromise list):
For your non-light controlled living room and non-gaming usage / movie watching only usage, my list from first to last choice would be: (Not 100% taking to account your $5K budget but some of them may be close. Ignore the ones that exceeds your budget.)

1. LG C6"H" (Tandem OLED Panel variant for the higher peak brightness)
1. Bravia 9 (Non-II / 2024 first version) This TV along with the Bravia 9 II has the more accurate EOTF curve and color accuracy out of the box, though B9 II may suffer from some slight red tint issues. Excellent for movie watching if you want reference quality picture, matching the Sony BVM-HX3110. But since they are non-OLED it has worse micro-contrast than OLEDs though being one of the best MiniLEDs.
2. Hisense UR8S (Bang for buck RGB Mini-LED) <- *IF it comes with the same US variant Glossy Obsidian Screen Coating which is better than Sony's Bravia 7 / 7 II semi-gloss coating to fight glare, if the SG variant is the matte coating then there is likely to be additional differences in hardware compared to the ones being reviewed online, since most reviewers are from the U.S
3. Hisense U7S (Bang for buck Mini-LED) <- Similar conditions as the UR8S, it is recommended to go to the physical store to check (If it is different from the reviews, then the SG variants are likely to be the EU variants which are usually inferior since they have to match EU energy consumption standards). TCL is similar with Hisense locally.
4. LG G6 if you're willing to stretch that budget this becomes no.1 (IMO I would rather take a glossy screen than a Matte screen to avoid the raised black issues with ambient light hitting the matte coating) Best example of this is the Bravia 7 and Bravia 7 II, they are terrible at reflection handling because of the semi-gloss/semi matte coating. Samsung S95H is a full matte instead of semi-gloss so it should be better than the B7 but it is still a matte screen. View either of these TVs in stores and compare it with the C6"H" or LG G6. The G6 should have the better screen coating and slightly higher peak brightness compared to the C6"H".
5. Sony Bravia 7 II (Comes with semi-gloss coating so it is not the best for reflection handling and ambient light handling) but it is an RGB MiniLED likely to be close to your budget). And since it is a Sony, the B7 II reviewed by the US reviewers is the same hardware you'll get here. Can't say the same (when it comes to hardware consistency based on regions) for TCL, Hisense and Samsung (unfortunately).

So a list without the Hisense would be:
1. LG C6"H"
2. Sony Bravia 9
3. LG G6
4. Sony Bravia 7 II

If you're highly sensitive to reflection and ambient light handling than remove the Sony Bravia 7 II from the list as the semi-gloss coating struggles at that.

If you prefer Matte screen and suddenly have a change of mind to increase budget, than the Samsung S95H becomes the no.1 option for your use case (If the SG variant comes with the QDOLED panel). Though than the Sony B9 II will also be worth a consideration since it has the best matte screen coating.

BTW for local stores it is best to visit different outlets to do a price check/nego for the best price. Online store listed price can be significantly higher.

 

[galapogos]

If your requirement is strictly Google TV, then the Bravia 7 II and Bravia 9 would be the only 2 decent Google TV options. This is taking into account the bad rep of the local TCL distributor when it comes to after sales service as mentioned previously. While I can't recommend this, some may still be willing to bite on that risk, so it is up to your individual risk appetite.

For the Hisense models running Vida OS, this is a giveaway that it is likely to be the EU variant instead of the US variant which runs on Android OS instead. The difference is likely not limited to just the OS/Software.

Basically for the glowing online US based reviews of TCL and Hisense TVs, it is usually not applicable to the SG variants (as we've seen in the past multiple years) that unfortunately comes with different hardware (usually worse) and software despite carrying the similar model name due to EU energy regulation requirements.

If the OS and region based Hardware consistency is less of a concern (Compromise list):
For your non-light controlled living room and non-gaming usage / movie watching only usage, my list from first to last choice would be: (Not 100% taking to account your $5K budget but some of them may be close. Ignore the ones that exceeds your budget.)

1. LG C6"H" (Tandem OLED Panel variant for the higher peak brightness)
1. Bravia 9 (Non-II / 2024 first version) This TV along with the Bravia 9 II has the more accurate EOTF curve and color accuracy out of the box, though B9 II may suffer from some slight red tint issues. Excellent for movie watching if you want reference quality picture, matching the Sony BVM-HX3110. But since they are non-OLED it has worse micro-contrast than OLEDs though being one of the best MiniLEDs.
2. Hisense UR8S (Bang for buck RGB Mini-LED) <- *IF it comes with the same US variant Glossy Obsidian Screen Coating which is better than Sony's Bravia 7 / 7 II semi-gloss coating to fight glare, if the SG variant is the matte coating then there is likely to be additional differences in hardware compared to the ones being reviewed online, since most reviewers are from the U.S
3. Hisense U7S (Bang for buck Mini-LED) <- Similar conditions as the UR8S, it is recommended to go to the physical store to check (If it is different from the reviews, then the SG variants are likely to be the EU variants which are usually inferior since they have to match EU energy consumption standards). TCL is similar with Hisense locally.
4. LG G6 if you're willing to stretch that budget this becomes no.1 (IMO I would rather take a glossy screen than a Matte screen to avoid the raised black issues with ambient light hitting the matte coating) Best example of this is the Bravia 7 and Bravia 7 II, they are terrible at reflection handling because of the semi-gloss/semi matte coating. Samsung S95H is a full matte instead of semi-gloss so it should be better than the B7 but it is still a matte screen. View either of these TVs in stores and compare it with the C6"H" or LG G6. The G6 should have the better screen coating and slightly higher peak brightness compared to the C6"H".
5. Sony Bravia 7 II (Comes with semi-gloss coating so it is not the best for reflection handling and ambient light handling) but it is an RGB MiniLED likely to be close to your budget). And since it is a Sony, the B7 II reviewed by the US reviewers is the same hardware you'll get here. Can't say the same (when it comes to hardware consistency based on regions) for TCL, Hisense and Samsung (unfortunately).

So a list without the Hisense would be:
1. LG C6"H"
2. Sony Bravia 9
3. LG G6
4. Sony Bravia 7 II

If you're highly sensitive to reflection and ambient light handling than remove the Sony Bravia 7 II from the list as the semi-gloss coating struggles at that.

If you prefer Matte screen and suddenly have a change of mind to increase budget, than the Samsung S95H becomes the no.1 option for your use case (If the SG variant comes with the QDOLED panel). Though than the Sony B9 II will also be worth a consideration since it has the best matte screen coating.

BTW for local stores it is best to visit different outlets to do a price check/nego for the best price. Online store listed price can be significantly higher.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. This was helpful