Recommendations for PC build

[oAkEn86]

Aiming to buy a new PC to replace my PC since 2014. Aim is to play games (eg. newer FPS games) and also to use for another 10 years? haa.

Saw this build on InvaderPC and have some qns

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED

1) Is the MB good? Can pay $10 more to upgrade to MSI B850M GAMING PLUS WIFI 1which has 5GB lan instead of 2.5gb lan but it appears that the power phases is only 8+2+1 (instead of 14+2+1) and 1 less PCIe 16x slots.
2) Is the NVME ok? Have not heard of it before.
3) I have not used AIO heatsink before. Is it ok? Thinking if should change to fan.
4) Will 1000W be sufficient to power this? I probably putting in my old 1xHDD 4tb and 1xssd 500gb
5) Is the case ok? Downside is cant upgrade it. Previously appear to have option to upgrade case but not nowadays.

TIA!

 

[jinsatkilife]

1) 14 > 8
2) no idea, can ask to switch
3) fan can last 10 years
4) yes
5) personal preference

 

[86technie]

The question here will be how much for this?
They use Crucial which are ex-stocks so I think they can give
a good price since this RAM they can't sell expensive.
FYI Crucial have stop making consumer RAM and SSD products since last year.
KIOXIA is a brand previously under Toshiba, is OK SSD.
Given the fact RAM and SSD are very expensive.
Dynacore/Invader PC use whatever is affordable for this PC.
I can't comment further especially RAM and SSD prices are very high.
This build roughly I think about $5k?

 

[NightRaven49]

1) Is the MB good? Can pay $10 more to upgrade to MSI B850M GAMING PLUS WIFI 1which has 5GB lan instead of 2.5gb lan but it appears that the power phases is only 8+2+1 (instead of 14+2+1) and 1 less PCIe 16x slots.

asus tuf is generally a tier or two above msi gaming/plus, not sure why invader offers the latter as an "upgrade" vrm is good on either. lan kinda depends on how ur home network is set up, if ur broadband plan not faster than 2.5g and u dont homelab then the 5g port on the msi may not prove to be better. the usb situation seems to favour the asus board as it packs usb2 ports so u dont have to waste fast usb on mouse + kb and also a faster 20gbps type c, while the msi board has maxes out at 10gbps though it has 2 type c ports. the msi has a white aesthetic, but given the rest of the pc is black i wouldnt see any reason to pay more for it to look out of place. the asus board packs an extra nvme slot, though imo the msi board is more versatile as it uses those 4 lanes in a regular x16 slot so u can plug in a lot more things than just a ssd.

3) I have not used AIO heatsink before. Is it ok? Thinking if should change to fan.

if regular air cooling is cheaper, i would go for that. the 98x3d is unlikely to see much benefit under water, plus need to worry about more points of failure with not just more fans but also the pump and tubing.

4) Will 1000W be sufficient to power this? I probably putting in my old 1xHDD 4tb and 1xssd 500gb

yes, though i would top up for a good quality unit especially given the price of the whole pc. that said, silverstone units are generally just ok.

The question here will be how much for this?
This build roughly I think about $5k?

quick search looks to be 3.6k, which is about par for the course given the price increases of ssd + ram, since a similar setup before the shortage was around 3k. the ssd in particular seems comparatively entry-level too compared to last time.

 

[abstrax]

Aiming to buy a new PC to replace my PC since 2014. Aim is to play games (eg. newer FPS games) and also to use for another 10 years? haa.

Saw this build on InvaderPC and have some qns

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED

1) Is the MB good? Can pay $10 more to upgrade to MSI B850M GAMING PLUS WIFI 1which has 5GB lan instead of 2.5gb lan but it appears that the power phases is only 8+2+1 (instead of 14+2+1) and 1 less PCIe 16x slots.
2) Is the NVME ok? Have not heard of it before.
3) I have not used AIO heatsink before. Is it ok? Thinking if should change to fan.
4) Will 1000W be sufficient to power this? I probably putting in my old 1xHDD 4tb and 1xssd 500gb
5) Is the case ok? Downside is cant upgrade it. Previously appear to have option to upgrade case but not nowadays.

TIA!

1. b850 mATX are almost the same power phase. If u want better quality, go for the flagship model X870 ATX board since ur casing can support.
2. KIOXIA has been quite long. I been using the SATA SSD. no complaint.
3. AIO is good to suppress the heat generated from ur 9800X3D for long hrs of gaming. Imagine u r using 5080 and with a cpu heatsink together inside ur casing. Unless u r inside a/c room.
4. get a 1000W platinum version. better efficiency.
5. the case quite similar to my deepcool case. airflow is good so far with my AIO radiator on top the case. If u want fully ARGB, this case will look solid.

 

[KleoZy]

Aiming to buy a new PC to replace my PC since 2014. Aim is to play games (eg. newer FPS games) and also to use for another 10 years? haa.

Saw this build on InvaderPC and have some qns

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED

1) Is the MB good? Can pay $10 more to upgrade to MSI B850M GAMING PLUS WIFI 1which has 5GB lan instead of 2.5gb lan but it appears that the power phases is only 8+2+1 (instead of 14+2+1) and 1 less PCIe 16x slots.
2) Is the NVME ok? Have not heard of it before.
3) I have not used AIO heatsink before. Is it ok? Thinking if should change to fan.
4) Will 1000W be sufficient to power this? I probably putting in my old 1xHDD 4tb and 1xssd 500gb
5) Is the case ok? Downside is cant upgrade it. Previously appear to have option to upgrade case but not nowadays.

TIA!

IMO,

1a) Power stage from 14+2+1 80A (Asus) to 8+2+1 with 60A (MSI). Your system VRM will run hotter using the MSI board, also the longevity. example, your butt will be more of a less sore if you travel 8 hours on a bus where you can relax or even lay down at the rear sit compared to ridding 8 hours on a bike.
1b) Longevity - though 8+2+1 60A (MSI) can run 9800X3D but it will carry more weight (current) compared to 14+2+1 80A (Asus). exmaple battery of 2100mah vs 4800mah, both charge at the same rate but usage. 2100mah will wear off faster.
1c) If you do not use LAN connection. the 2.5G to 5G is redundant as both Wifi 7 adaptor are of the same Mediatek MT7927.

Overall pay 10 bucks more is not an upgrade.. it's more of a downgrade.

2) KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2
If you are using it for gaming or leisure.. it's ok as this is using QLC Nand. If you worry about longevity and durability, then ask if there are options for TLC Nand.

TLC (Triple‑Level Cell)
Stores 3 bits per cell, so it has higher endurance and more write cycles (often several hundred to a few thousand P/E cycles) than QLC.
More suitable for daily use, gaming, OS drives, and heavier workloads like video editing or frequent large file writes.

QLC (Quad‑Level Cell)
Stores 4 bits per cell, so it’s cheaper and higher‑capacity per chip, but with lower endurance and slower sustained write speeds.
Best for light‑to‑moderate use: web browsing, office work, media storage, and “read‑heavy + occasional writes” scenarios.

3) I totally agree with @NightRaven49 as 9800X3D is not as hot as you think. AirCooler have longer liftspan. The only troubleshooting are the fans if it breaks down. for Liquid Cooler, max lifespan is up to 6 years. The hassle to change the whole unit.

4) Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU
In General, 1000w is more than sufficient and it's a ok PSU, but be prepared that during load time, it can be noisy. Addition to this, its warranty is abit too short (3 years) for my liking. This I also agree with @NightRaven49 Get a better PSU at least with a 5 to 10 years warranty.

5) The case provided have sufficient space in Airflow.
- For AirCooler, it will be best to use good AirFlow case like Lian Li Lancool 207. Fish tank case will be
Side Intake, bottom intake, rear exhaust.. for the top I will just leave it empty. If you want to fill up fans for the looks, I will do this to the top.. first fan which is near the front glass, it will be intake not exhuast, as it make no sense when your side are intake and to directly exhuast air out to the top, follow by the rear top 2 fans, they will be exhaust.. where warm air are exhuast out from the case and from the AirCooler heatsink.

- For Liquid AIO in fish tank style, I prefer to have the radiator mounting at the side and not top, the tubes will be at the bottom. Reason for this.. it benefits both GPU cooling (supported by bottom fans air intake) and CPU cooling (intake at the side), leaving open area for the top and rear fans to exhuast more hot air out of the case.

Last but not least.. If your monitor can cater for 4K gaming, RTX 5080 make sense. If only for 1440p, 5070Ti or 9700XT is of better value.

 

[yukita]

just to add Kioxia basic endurance is half of those mainstream ssd. it should be okay i guess, because i watch youtube mention some SSD even before TBW hit already died. some even TBW reach 0 still alive. but if you worry, find other brand using TLC like what KleoZy mention above.

https://apac.kioxia.com/en-apac/personal/ssd/exceria-basic.html

• Endurance: TBW (Total Bytes Written)*3
  1TB: 300 TB
  2TB: 600 TB

 

[86technie]

just to add Kioxia basic endurance is half of those mainstream ssd. it should be okay i guess, because i watch youtube mention some SSD even before TBW hit already died. some even TBW reach 0 still alive. but if you worry, find other brand using TLC like what KleoZy mention above.

https://apac.kioxia.com/en-apac/personal/ssd/exceria-basic.html

• Endurance: TBW (Total Bytes Written)*3
  1TB: 300 TB
  2TB: 600 TB

Given the current market situation.
They include this Kioxia Basic SSD as it only cost $309.
Other SSD like Samsung now cost around $500.
Invader/Dynacore is not trying to undercut but given the current market situation.

Whatever SSD or RAM is cheap they include in the build.
Alternate choice will be Samsung 990 EVO Plus but that is if they have.
Many shops don't carry Samsung 990 EVO Plus.

 

[oAkEn86]

The question here will be how much for this?
They use Crucial which are ex-stocks so I think they can give
a good price since this RAM they can't sell expensive.
FYI Crucial have stop making consumer RAM and SSD products since last year.
KIOXIA is a brand previously under Toshiba, is OK SSD.
Given the fact RAM and SSD are very expensive.
Dynacore/Invader PC use whatever is affordable for this PC.
I can't comment further especially RAM and SSD prices are very high.
This build roughly I think about $5k?

Now selling 3599. If DIY, appears to be about 4K. So if crucial have issues, still can change in future? Haa

 

[abstrax]

Now selling 3599. If DIY, appears to be about 4K. So if crucial have issues, still can change in future? Haa

If u have the budget n u r into FPS games, this is the current market price. As long the RAM u buying are from local distributor, sure will have warranty. DIY is mostly for the pros who knows about IT stuff n troubleshooting. The only advantage of DIY is u can choose the parts at own freedom.

 

[86technie]

Now selling 3599. If DIY, appears to be about 4K. So if crucial have issues, still can change in future? Haa

Local distro policy for Crucial are refund only.
I know someone here in the past ask for them for replacement.
No one knows whether in the future can or not.

Regardless Crucial is the only cheap ram they can bundle with.
Alternative you can ask them if can change to ADATA LANCER DDR5-6000.
Sadly this RAM kit last year was the cheapest DDR5 under $200 but now skyrocket above $500.

Or another will be TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MHz.
Issue here is whether Dynacore willing to sell them at cheaper price or not cuz
distro are not able to bring in more RAM due to high price.

 

[yukita]

Now selling 3599. If DIY, appears to be about 4K. So if crucial have issues, still can change in future? Haa

In my opinion, for ram, generally it is safe to get Crucial as they are quite a good brand and ram is not so easy to spoil. The only concern that rma will be refund only as mention, and over years later, might not be able to refund as we do not know the policy changes later on).

 

[86technie]

In my opinion, for ram, generally it is safe to get Crucial as they are quite a good brand and ram is not so easy to spoil. The only concern that rma will be refund only as mention, and over years later, might not be able to refund as we do not know the policy changes later on).

True Crucial will be more reliable.
I only mention ADATA XPG which is another reliable RAM brand.
ADATA XPG for sure you get replacement.

But than with high price you can only afford whichever is cheapest.

 

[oAkEn86]

Thanks everyone for the advice. Thinking of the changes below (ie.upgrade PSU and and 3 more fans to make it less hot). Any other advice? Thanks thanks.

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU (Upgrade to Seasonic Vertex GX1000 ATX3.1 Pcie5 80+ for $131)
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS (Add 3x ASUS AR120 ARGB BLACK SINGLE CASE FAN BULK for $36)
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED (Buy on Lazada Win Pro 11 for $12)

 

[86technie]

Thanks everyone for the advice. Thinking of the changes below (ie.upgrade PSU and and 3 more fans to make it less hot). Any other advice? Thanks thanks.

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU (Upgrade to Seasonic Vertex GX1000 ATX3.1 Pcie5 80+ for $131)
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS (Add 3x ASUS AR120 ARGB BLACK SINGLE CASE FAN BULK for $36)
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED (Buy on Lazada Win Pro 11 for $12)

If it works for you than go for it.
As I suspect the RAM, SSD are the one they can sell cheap.
Any others they not able to.
However the PSU wise can consider Corsair RM1000E not too ex like Seasonic.

Silverstone Triton 1000W - $179
Corsair RM1000e - $249
Seasonic Vertex GX1000 - $299

 

[ragnarok95]

Seasonic Vertex need PX level then it's good. GX not as good.

 

[abstrax]

Thanks everyone for the advice. Thinking of the changes below (ie.upgrade PSU and and 3 more fans to make it less hot). Any other advice? Thanks thanks.

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU (Upgrade to Seasonic Vertex GX1000 ATX3.1 Pcie5 80+ for $131)
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS (Add 3x ASUS AR120 ARGB BLACK SINGLE CASE FAN BULK for $36)
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED (Buy on Lazada Win Pro 11 for $12)

I feel no diff in PSU as both are 80+ gold. Just stick to the old one will do.

 

[jinsatkilife]

Seasonic Vertex need PX level then it's good. GX not as good.

what are you getting with PX that GX don't offer?

 

[86technie]

what are you getting with PX that GX don't offer?

Better build, 80+ Plantium.
I usually don't recommend Seasonic due to high price.

 

[KleoZy]

Thanks everyone for the advice. Thinking of the changes below (ie.upgrade PSU and and 3 more fans to make it less hot). Any other advice? Thanks thanks.

GeForce RTX™ 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz 8C/16T 104MB
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI7
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 BLACK V3 ARGB
CRUCIAL DDR5 PRO BLACK 6400MT/s 32GB(16GBx2) CL32 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7
KIOXIA EXCERIA BASIC 2TB 7300MB/s GEN4 NVMe M.2 (no change as ~$200 to upgrade to another brand)
Silverstone Triton 1000W 80+ Gold PSU (Upgrade to Seasonic Vertex GX1000 ATX3.1 Pcie5 80+ for $131)
ASUS A32 TG BLACK ATX CASE
4 X 120MM ARGB FANS (Add 3x ASUS AR120 ARGB BLACK SINGLE CASE FAN BULK for $36)
HIGH-SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 7* + BT 5.4*
WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED (Buy on Lazada Win Pro 11 for $12)

Honestly, I will opt for the seasonic. giving me a peace of mind that it's 10 years warranty.
But if you don't really care about the warranty, stay put as both PSU will do it's job on your setup.