Red Wing shoe Thread

[noobzpro]

Are you going to share with us how to get RW at $100? I'm sure many people will thank you for that! Including me!

sierra trading post have extra 40% for people who subscribed to their coupons...it works on red wings too...so after discount is 100usd

 

[Scribblemyname]

I feel we should support our retailers for bringing them in if we are financially able to do so because only like this more company would take in more fashion brands which I believe many of us hope certain brands are available in Singapore. Though they are generally more expensive, but those shoes are worth it and their service are actually really awesome if you have tried them you will know .

 

[llx384]

sierra trading post have extra 40% for people who subscribed to their coupons...it works on red wings too...so after discount is 100usd

I thought the discounts cannot be applied to Red Wing? So it works now?

 

[noobzpro]

I thought the discounts cannot be applied to Red Wing? So it works now?

Only today special code works.

 

[llx384]

I feel we should support our retailers for bringing them in if we are financially able to do so because only like this more company would take in more fashion brands which I believe many of us hope certain brands are available in Singapore. Though they are generally more expensive, but those shoes are worth it and their service are actually really awesome if you have tried them you will know .

I know someone will post something like this, just waiting for it.

Personally, I think that as consumers, we should not be held ransom to local prices. We shouldn't be trying to cater to their prices. Instead, retailers should be trying to win us by pricing themselves attractively. It will not be possible though because of the soaring prices of rent and labour in Singapore. Singaporean payrolls are not matching that increase to be able to pay more for items. I think good service alone don't justify a huge mark up. What I think they could have done is, at least give some discount during GSS. But even so, I as a consumer cannot justify paying $180 more (in Mavieboy's case) for the same item. It just does not make any sense on any level.

 

[Scribblemyname]

I know someone will post something like this, just waiting for it.

Personally, I think that as consumers, we should not be held ransom to local prices. We shouldn't be trying to cater to their prices. Instead, retailers should be trying to win us by pricing themselves attractively. It will not be possible though because of the soaring prices of rent and labour in Singapore. Singaporean payrolls are not matching that increase to be able to pay more for items. I think good service alone don't justify a huge mark up. What I think they could have done is, at least give some discount during GSS. But even so, I as a consumer cannot justify paying $180 more (in Mavieboy's case) for the same item. It just does not make any sense on any level.

This mentality in the long run will prevent potential brands to be brought in by company to sell in Singapore, like how many people complain why A&W not re-opening here despite there is "potential crowd".

I doubt Singaporean payroll are not able to match it honestly eg: More and more Singaporeans are able to purchase car even COE are so high now.

You also mention it will be almost impossible for retailers to price lower due to insane rent and rising labour cost. There are discount as mention by some forumer which is through the purchase of vouchers from orchard gateway.

Like I mention, if you are financially able then why not support local business? Not saying you have to and I'm definitely not saying it is wrong to go for cheaper option if there is one.

Good Service and having a brick and mortar shop to go back to if there is any issue arise is worth the premium to me at least. So far they don't give bad attitude to people who go there and try (for their great service) and buy online later on.

Not looking to debate if it make sense or not to spend that extra, just my humble opinion and how it will affect the market in the long run.

 

[foxracingINC82]

Just hoot one also ...si bei song.... if wack from tao bao also more expensive

 

[Mavieboy]

Get ready Mavieboy, your boots are about to arrive!

The update at ups for mine was still stuck at what I posted previously.

Guess what, my clothes came today! 10 days from purchase date.

I'm guessing yours should arrive soon.

damn, my ups tracking got nothing, only Order Processed: Ready for UPS, amazon tracking still the same, i don't think it will arrive that soon tho, estimated time of arrival is on the 17th of july i guess free shipping u just gotta wait more, Just hope it don't arrive in shitty condition and make me have to return it

 

[Mavieboy]

This mentality in the long run will prevent potential brands to be brought in by company to sell in Singapore, like how many people complain why A&W not re-opening here despite there is "potential crowd".

I doubt Singaporean payroll are not able to match it honestly eg: More and more Singaporeans are able to purchase car even COE are so high now.

You also mention it will be almost impossible for retailers to price lower due to insane rent and rising labour cost. There are discount as mention by some forumer which is through the purchase of vouchers from orchard gateway.

Like I mention, if you are financially able then why not support local business? Not saying you have to and I'm definitely not saying it is wrong to go for cheaper option if there is one.

Good Service and having a brick and mortar shop to go back to if there is any issue arise is worth the premium to me at least. So far they don't give bad attitude to people who go there and try (for their great service) and buy online later on.

Not looking to debate if it make sense or not to spend that extra, just my humble opinion and how it will affect the market in the long run.

To each his own, yes i rather support our singaporean retailers but paying for smth that i can get about 40% cheaper, i'd rather go for the less expensive alternative It's all bout the pricing.

 

[Mavieboy]

I know someone will post something like this, just waiting for it.

Personally, I think that as consumers, we should not be held ransom to local prices. We shouldn't be trying to cater to their prices. Instead, retailers should be trying to win us by pricing themselves attractively. It will not be possible though because of the soaring prices of rent and labour in Singapore. Singaporean payrolls are not matching that increase to be able to pay more for items. I think good service alone don't justify a huge mark up. What I think they could have done is, at least give some discount during GSS. But even so, I as a consumer cannot justify paying $180 more (in Mavieboy's case) for the same item. It just does not make any sense on any level.

totally agree with you, but not trying to say that Scribblemyname didn't make a point. Lets not talk about red wing, take a look at denim store, most people i know also go there to try the size and order online. A nudie jeans cost about 229sgd at the denim store, but when i was in italy, nudie jeans only cost 90-100 euro retail and that's even before tax rebate!!! I paid about 150-160sgd for the jeans.

 

[llx384]

This mentality in the long run will prevent potential brands to be brought in by company to sell in Singapore, like how many people complain why A&W not re-opening here despite there is "potential crowd".

I doubt Singaporean payroll are not able to match it honestly eg: More and more Singaporeans are able to purchase car even COE are so high now.

You also mention it will be almost impossible for retailers to price lower due to insane rent and rising labour cost. There are discount as mention by some forumer which is through the purchase of vouchers from orchard gateway.

Like I mention, if you are financially able then why not support local business? Not saying you have to and I'm definitely not saying it is wrong to go for cheaper option if there is one.

Good Service and having a brick and mortar shop to go back to if there is any issue arise is worth the premium to me at least. So far they don't give bad attitude to people who go there and try (for their great service) and buy online later on.

Not looking to debate if it make sense or not to spend that extra, just my humble opinion and how it will affect the market in the long run.

Respectfully, I don't think that my mentality will prevent brands from being brought here. Rather it is the mentality of the retailers that bring stuff in. How much profit do they want to make? I brought brands (instruments) to Singapore in the past, and trust me, you'll be shocked at how little retailers pay for products. Retailers earn a hell lot by a huge mark up. If they are willing to cut back, things will be a lot more affordable and in return, get more customers. It's simple economics. You either make money by bulk or by price. What RW in this case is doing is sell expensive instead of bulk.

I have not heard anyone in my circles clamouring for A&W to return. Again, lets be factual here and not base an argument on an impression. What makes you say that more Singaporeans are able to buy cars? Because sir, the opposite is true. Economic data shows that car registrations in Singapore is at an all time low over the past 10 years. In fact the it is +/- 2000 cars below average. So that assumption that more people can afford cars is false. And to compare a car (which is troublesome to buy internationally and restrictive) to an apparel which can be bought internationally, easily, is not logical. Don't you think that if people can save thousands by purchasing cars themselves overseas wouldn't do it?

Match does not mean affordability. It's 2 different things. E.g If the price of a plate of chicken rice increases from $2 to $3 (not even talking about food court prices), that's an increase of 50%. Did Singaporean payrolls increase by 50%? If yes, I got nothing to say. But again, lets based an argument on economic data. Singapore's monthly wage increased from $4000+ to $5000 over the past 5 years. That's only a 25% increase. So nope, it does not match the increase in prices of stuff here in Singapore. As of right now, CPI is at it's highest point EVER. So yes, with $5000 I can AFFORD a RW easily in SG, but in actual fact, my purchasing power has fallen dramatically over the years. It did not MATCH the growth in prices.

Yes, I also said that you guys can consider the vouchers for discount. But they are NOT by retailers. They are given by the mall. What happens after GSS? What happens after the mall end their 'HEY I'm HERE' promo? I also explained why I chose not to use the vouchers and still purchase online. The savings paid for 1/2 a pair of quality running shoes.

So my question to you is this. Why should consumers be bullied into paying high prices? You pay high just to show support? That in itself does not make any sense. To say this, will mean that you are either one of the retailers or you are related to one of them. Other than that, I can't fathom why anyone will willingly pay more for something. Being financially able does not mean one should not be financially prudent. Let's be real here, if you see a pair of running shoes at $100 at Royal Sporting House and right beside it is Sportslink selling it for $90. Will you pay $100 to Royal Sporting House or $90 to Sportslink? I'm assuming we are all logical people here... Of course we will buy it at $90. So the onus is now on Royal Sporting House to adjust their price so that they can match what Sportslink is selling at. Applying it to RW, the onus is on them to adjust their prices to match what consumers are willing to pay.

This is how I think the market will be in the long run. I highly doubt retailers will stop bringing different brands in. They will, once they see a demand for something. The question then will be, are they able to capture that demand, or will they price the demand out. If they price the demand out, people will go back to buying online.

Actually, I have friends who think like that. Best to go to a shop, so anything wrong, can be resolved easily. I think this is true 5-10 years ago. But the world is so connected now. Information is so readily available in terms of prices around the world. Shipping prices are falling. Communication to overseas retailers is easy with the internet. Online shops behave like brick and mortar shops in terms of customer service. So a brick and mortar shop is not necessarily any different to an online shop, i.e Amazon.

To end, I cannot dictate how any one spends money. It's your own prerogative. On my part, in a time when our purchasing powers are diminishing, and prices of things are at all time highs, I will try to help people save money and find bargains. This, my friend, helps Singaporeans more than making them spend extra money to line the pockets of retailers.

Lol, got a lot of time to type while waiting for match to start

 

[Mavieboy]

sierra trading post have extra 40% for people who subscribed to their coupons...it works on red wings too...so after discount is 100usd

congrats what a steal for that price, still can't figure out why ppl pay so much for sneakers hehe just kidding

 

[noobzpro]

congrats what a steal for that price, still can't figure out why ppl pay so much for sneakers hehe just kidding

haha thanks i still do have sneakers for ease sometimes...when ure in a rush no time lace up haha...this pair buy probably to keep nia currently still wacking my other pair of boots

 

[llx384]

haha thanks i still do have sneakers for ease sometimes...when ure in a rush no time lace up haha...this pair buy probably to keep nia currently still wacking my other pair of boots

Yea the lacing up.... Now I have to add another 5 mins of prep before I go out.

 

[noobzpro]

Yea the lacing up.... Now I have to add another 5 mins of prep before I go out.

haha ok la u get used to it...but still not as fast as just putting on the sneakers...both sides takes less than 20 sec lolz

 

[Mavieboy]

Yea the lacing up.... Now I have to add another 5 mins of prep before I go out.

haha ok la u get used to it...but still not as fast as just putting on the sneakers...both sides takes less than 20 sec lolz

Guys you know in america red wing stores, they can add speed hooks to your red wing boots for free. hehe my lineman lace up pretty fast cos of the speed hooks tho

 

[noobzpro]

Guys you know in america red wing stores, they can add speed hooks to your red wing boots for free. hehe my lineman lace up pretty fast cos of the speed hooks tho

My Wabasha speed hook. But I don't like it le I tie my other boots faster lol

 

[Beta_Tester]

Only today special code works.

Today as in now? Or over liao? Damn it I'm in camp

 

[patryn33]

sierra trading post have extra 40% for people who subscribed to their coupons...it works on red wings too...so after discount is 100usd

Limited sizing is always the issue for me at Sierra trading. Prices great

 

[Scribblemyname]

Spoiler

Respectfully, I don't think that my mentality will prevent brands from being brought here. Rather it is the mentality of the retailers that bring stuff in. How much profit do they want to make? I brought brands (instruments) to Singapore in the past, and trust me, you'll be shocked at how little retailers pay for products. Retailers earn a hell lot by a huge mark up. If they are willing to cut back, things will be a lot more affordable and in return, get more customers. It's simple economics. You either make money by bulk or by price. What RW in this case is doing is sell expensive instead of bulk.

I have not heard anyone in my circles clamouring for A&W to return. Again, lets be factual here and not base an argument on an impression. What makes you say that more Singaporeans are able to buy cars? Because sir, the opposite is true. Economic data shows that car registrations in Singapore is at an all time low over the past 10 years. In fact the it is +/- 2000 cars below average. So that assumption that more people can afford cars is false. And to compare a car (which is troublesome to buy internationally and restrictive) to an apparel which can be bought internationally, easily, is not logical. Don't you think that if people can save thousands by purchasing cars themselves overseas wouldn't do it?

Match does not mean affordability. It's 2 different things. E.g If the price of a plate of chicken rice increases from $2 to $3 (not even talking about food court prices), that's an increase of 50%. Did Singaporean payrolls increase by 50%? If yes, I got nothing to say. But again, lets based an argument on economic data. Singapore's monthly wage increased from $4000+ to $5000 over the past 5 years. That's only a 25% increase. So nope, it does not match the increase in prices of stuff here in Singapore. As of right now, CPI is at it's highest point EVER. So yes, with $5000 I can AFFORD a RW easily in SG, but in actual fact, my purchasing power has fallen dramatically over the years. It did not MATCH the growth in prices.

Yes, I also said that you guys can consider the vouchers for discount. But they are NOT by retailers. They are given by the mall. What happens after GSS? What happens after the mall end their 'HEY I'm HERE' promo? I also explained why I chose not to use the vouchers and still purchase online. The savings paid for 1/2 a pair of quality running shoes.

So my question to you is this. Why should consumers be bullied into paying high prices? You pay high just to show support? That in itself does not make any sense. To say this, will mean that you are either one of the retailers or you are related to one of them. Other than that, I can't fathom why anyone will willingly pay more for something. Being financially able does not mean one should not be financially prudent. Let's be real here, if you see a pair of running shoes at $100 at Royal Sporting House and right beside it is Sportslink selling it for $90. Will you pay $100 to Royal Sporting House or $90 to Sportslink? I'm assuming we are all logical people here... Of course we will buy it at $90. So the onus is now on Royal Sporting House to adjust their price so that they can match what Sportslink is selling at. Applying it to RW, the onus is on them to adjust their prices to match what consumers are willing to pay.

This is how I think the market will be in the long run. I highly doubt retailers will stop bringing different brands in. They will, once they see a demand for something. The question then will be, are they able to capture that demand, or will they price the demand out. If they price the demand out, people will go back to buying online.

Actually, I have friends who think like that. Best to go to a shop, so anything wrong, can be resolved easily. I think this is true 5-10 years ago. But the world is so connected now. Information is so readily available in terms of prices around the world. Shipping prices are falling. Communication to overseas retailers is easy with the internet. Online shops behave like brick and mortar shops in terms of customer service. So a brick and mortar shop is not necessarily any different to an online shop, i.e Amazon.

To end, I cannot dictate how any one spends money. It's your own prerogative. On my part, in a time when our purchasing powers are diminishing, and prices of things are at all time highs, I will try to help people save money and find bargains. This, my friend, helps Singaporeans more than making them spend extra money to line the pockets of retailers.

Lol, got a lot of time to type while waiting for match to start

The Car example is base on newspaper I've read on SG being too packed with cars. Probably you are right if you have researched on it.

Well, you could always google that there are petitions flying around and even FB sharings asking for A&W to return and people who always go other country enjoy A&W complained why SG don't have it and it's just a small example which I'm trying to bring across my point.


What I'm emphasizing is affordability with higher pay and not comparing the increment of pay to match the increase in other stuff. And you have point out 2 brick and mortar shop having different price point and side by side which makes out the convenient to walk over literally.Take a look at queensway which sell slightly cheaper RW but people didn't actually recommend them as often but always refer forumers to old Suntec RW store to try or buy because of the better service provided even though they have no promotion most of the time.

How could you compare oversea retailers compare to local brick and mortar? Can you feel the shoes via online? Can you physically check for any defects before buying it? Can you be so sure about your sizing? Yes you can argue you can ship back if there is any of the following but time and frustrations to deal with people behind a email address is always there.

If you kept insist service + assurance does not equate to premium, then why is there so many place charging people exorbitantly high price for better services ? Eg: Budget airline and SIA, both let you reach the same destination but some people are more willing to fork out the extra to have better comfort/service from SIA.

Online makes everything affordable because they don't have a shop front to maintain. But if everyone decides to purchase from online, eventually retailers will find it no point to bring in. There is a reason why luxury shops also impose so strict restriction for online purchase and some luxury brand don't sell online and only through brick and mortar shops.

You can't calculate services to price/unit. If you feel that it's better off to save the $100+ for the service and assurance given by the shop then go ahead.

And lastly, I'm not related to any retail shops or own one and I've worked in retails and I know their mark up margins but I also know most of that go to their rentals and expenses. The profit is not as much as what you think if you actually split the pie up.