Renouncing Islam

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percival582

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I am very sorry if this may seem inappropriate to post, however I am really in need of help.
I have been actively researching on how to renounce Islam legally in Singapore for the past 2 months. I even found a facebook page for Ex-Muslims saying that I should get a deedpoll and change my name.

I do not wish to change my name, I only want to renounce it officially so I may no longer be bound under their syariah laws.
I am calling out to anyone who has done this before to please help me.
Every organisations I have contacted are avoiding this matter like the plague be it government or private.
Muis is not even answering my concerns its aggravating.

I am an athiest and I only wish to free myself from the syariah law.
 

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I think what TS want is from a legal standpoint rather than religious standpoint. The outcome he wants is the State says you are atheist; not how the community sees him.

From religion standpoint, Islam does not allow someone to "renounce" it once you are in. However, unlike the major religions like Christianity/Buddhism, there is no legal attachments to the non-practice of faith. I am catholic myself, and there is no "renunciation" of faith (anyway, what's the point?, just no need to practice)

Again, my guess, if you are coming a legal standpoint, it might require you to execute a Statutory Declaration witness by a public notary, then go ICA to update your particulars with the SD. Can discuss with lawyer whether something like this workable.
 
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I think what TS want is from a legal standpoint rather than religious standpoint. The outcome he wants is the State says you are atheist; not how the community sees him.

From religion standpoint, Islam does not allow someone to "renounce" it once you are in. However, unlike the major religions like Christianity/Buddhism, there is no legal attachments to the non-practice of faith. I am catholic myself, and there is no "renunciation" of faith (anyway, what's the point?, just no need to practice)

Again, my guess, if you are coming a legal standpoint, it might require you to execute a Statutory Declaration witness by a public notary, then go ICA to update your particulars with the SD. Can discuss with lawyer whether something like this workable.

If I'm not wrong, the legal standpoint is very important too, cos it includes the ritual for the deceased (touch wood!). For example, if a person is legally Muslim then his funeral has to follow Islamic principles.
 

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Every organisations I have contacted are avoiding this matter like the plague be it government or private.
Muis is not even answering my concerns its aggravating.
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email Yaacob Ibrahim to ask..
Sounds like a VERY good idea...
If MUIS cannot answer, then Minister must answer... ("He enjoys reading, listening to music, and meeting people.")


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Dr YAACOB Ibrahim
Minister for Communications and Information
Dr YAACOB Ibrahim
Dr Yaacob Ibrahim was a structural engineer at Bylander Meinhardt Partnership before receiving a scholarship to pursue a PhD at Stanford University (US). He then worked as a post-doctoral fellow at Cornell University (US) before returning to Singapore to join the National University of Singapore. He is currently on leave of absence from the university as an associate professor.

Dr Yaacob has been active in community service since his schooldays and has been involved with the Association of Muslim Professionals, Jamiyah, Majlis Ugama Islam Singapura and the Nature Society. Dr Yaacob also served as a board member of Civil Service College, the National Heritage Board, STV12 Pte Ltd, and Temasek Polytechnic, and as a trustee of NTUC Income, a union-linked cooperative. He has been associated with Yayasan Mendaki since its formation and has been its Chairman since March 2002.

Dr Yaacob has been Member of Parliament since 1997 - for the Jalan Besar Group Representation Constituency (Kolam Ayer) and then for the Moulmein-Kallang Group Representation Constituency (Kolam Ayer). He was also the first Mayor of Central Singapore District from April to November 2001.

Dr Yaacob served as Parliamentary Secretary and Senior Parliamentary Secretary at the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology before being appointed as the Minister of State for Community Development and Sports in November 2001. In March 2002, he was appointed as the Ministry’s Acting Minister and Minister-In-Charge of Muslim Affairs. In May 2003, he was promoted to Minister for Community Development and Sports.

In Aug 2004, Dr Yaacob was appointed Minister for the Environment and Water Resources in Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s Cabinet. Dr Yaacob was re-appointed in the same capacity following the May 2006 elections. Following the May 2011 elections, he was appointed Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts. In Nov 2012, with the restructuring of ministries, Dr Yaacob became the Minister for Communications and Information. He continues to be in charge of Muslim affairs.

Dr Yaacob serves in the People’s Action Party’s Central Executive Committee as vice-chairman.

Dr Yaacob was born in Singapore on 3 October 1955. He is married and has two children: a son and a daughter. He enjoys reading, listening to music, and meeting people.

http://www.pmo.gov.sg/cabinet/dr-yaacob-ibrahim
 
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There's no such thing as enforced or being carried out. If there are then those Malay Muslims whom are caught & found eating during fasting month would be in trouble. & you would see raids in those cheapo hotels by the Islamic Officers.

The law only covers certain aspects of a Muslims (divorce (but if cannot settle amicably still being point back to family court), deeds & a few more here http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;query=DocId%3A3e90fc65-b364-434b-b2dc-ced1d9608640%20%20Status%3Ainforce%20Depth%3A0;rec=0

Don't try to misaligned others coming to a conclusion that Syariah Laws are the same as Hudud Laws...these 2 are 2 different laws.

I'm assuming TS is a convert & wants to renounce Islam & also might be caught in a divorce situation which in this case have to follow Syariah Law but again if cannot resolve Syariah Court will get both parties to attend Family Court(I'm assuming OK).
 

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Ambit of shariah court in SG seems limited anyway so just go ICA and tell them u want to update your religion status (and then blog/ share your experience on internet on your Facebook account etc, since MUIS/ ministar= too lazy/ busy to comment).


http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/sear...608640 Status:inforce Depth:0;rec=0#pr35-he-.

Jurisdiction ( of Syariah Court)
35.—(1) The Court shall have jurisdiction throughout Singapore.
[20/99]
(2) The Court shall have jurisdiction to hear and determine all actions and proceedings in which all the parties are Muslims or where the parties were married under the provisions of the Muslim law and which involve disputes relating to —
(a)
marriage;
(b)
divorces known in the Muslim law as fasakh, cerai taklik, khuluk and talak;
(c)
betrothal, nullity of marriage or judicial separation;
(d)
the disposition or division of property on divorce or nullification of marriage; or
(e)
the payment of emas kahwin, marriage expenses (hantaran belanja), maintenance and consolatory gifts or mutaah.
[20/99; 29/2008]
(3) In all questions regarding betrothal, marriage, dissolution of marriage, including talak, cerai taklik, khuluk and fasakh, nullity of marriage or judicial separation, the appointment of hakam, the disposition or division of property on divorce or nullification of marriage, the payment of emas kahwin, marriage expenses (hantaran belanja) and consolatory gifts or mutaah and the payment of maintenance on divorce, the rule of decision where the parties are Muslims or were married under the provisions of the Muslim law shall, subject to the provisions of this Act, be the Muslim law, as varied where applicable by Malay custom.
 
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Usually in the case of fundamentalist communities, the only way to truly leave it without the threats, is to leave the entire community
 

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What constructive opinion you want? Want to leave or not, no one knows and no one cares until you go announce big big.
 
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