Report on name calling

[Intrinion]

I got infracted for a single word ("dumb") AND my post was removed: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...insulted-other-s.8143279/#convMessage-8355530

And it was 6 points. Points aside, the infraction was deserved as I shouldn't have stooped so low.

The worrying thing is that mods and admins so far are indicating that it's ok to call worse names AND it's ok to adopt the attitude of calling names as long as the argument is well-reasoned and substantiated.
However, if an argument is well-reasoned and superior, why is there even the need to call names and be proud of it?

If my post was removed because it had nothing of substance and was pure name-calling, I'm sure mods or admins have the ability to edit a well-reasoned post to remove the unnecessary lines so as to increase the signal to noise ratio. A concerning message is being sent to us readers when even the name-calling is not edited out at the very least.


Disclaimer: I have an opinion of food delivery jobs that is opposite of what noobmaster89 is saying - i.e. I don't agree with him.

I have reviewed your post and removed the warning.

 

[spinning_quirK]

I have reviewed your post and removed the warning.

Thank you boss. I wasn't expecting this outcome... and honestly this sounds like calling each other "dumb" in the heat of the moment is fair game for 2 squabbling uncles.
And I fully thought my argument was superior and he was being quarrelsome, so, my name-calling on him was really not needed.

The other party I was verbally dancing with, his warning should also be removed? Cos we used the same word on each other.
But is your call.

 

[Intrinion]

Thank you boss. I wasn't expecting this outcome... and honestly this sounds like calling each other "dumb" in the heat of the moment is fair game for 2 squabbling uncles.

The other party I was verbally dancing with, his warning should also be removed? Cos we used the same word on each other.
But is your call.

Yes that’s precisely my point I am trying to bring across. I doubt users here are such snowflakes that couldn’t take such small remarks without overreacting about it.

I have also indeed looked at the other user and will take similar reversal action.

 

[noobmaster89]

Yes that’s precisely my point I am trying to bring across. I doubt users here are such snowflakes that couldn’t take such small remarks without overreacting about it.

I have also indeed looked at the other user and will take similar reversals.

So what are you implying? Anyone who reports is a snowflake?

Mind you, in the first place you guys are the ones that tell us to report anything we deem offensive and not engage with offenders further

I am merely doing so as I know I will get infracted easily if I retaliate with name calling

Lastly, I am not overreacting, I already said I will accept your explanation if I have your assurance that those words that I reported are allowed going forward.

 

[Intrinion]

So what are you implying? Anyone who reports is a snowflake?

Mind you, in the first place you guys are the ones that tell us to report anything we deem offensive and not engage with offenders further

I am merely doing so as I know I will get infracted easily if I retaliate with name calling

Lastly, I am not overreacting, I already said I will accept your explanation if I have your assurance that those words that I reported are allowed going forward.

Ah but you have chosen to further engage with the user have you not? (across many posts I may add).

I reviewed your reported posts and interactions and felt that the remarks made were relatively mild and typical of forum discourse. If it was a post was a simply myriad of insults then it would be certainly removed. The mentioned user has also made points that value adds to the thread discussion.

However, if you would like, I will remove them from public view.

 

[noobmaster89]

Ah but you have chosen to further engage with the user have you not? (across many posts I may add).

I have engaged him by sharing differing opinions

All good until he resorted to personal insults and name calling, and I did as what you guys always say - to report and not engage further with name calling. In fact I even told him to stop if we are to continue the debate, yet he doubled down and tried to provoke me further

So does this mean if I had called him back a dumb person while adding my discussion points, it would have been deemed as something typical of forum discourse and no action would have been taken against me?

And why is tagging another user is being deemed as a "harassment" offence worthy of 3 points? It is not as if I am threatening the user, I still don't understand the rationale and logic behind this

harassment
/ˈharəsm(ə)nt,həˈrasm(ə)nt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
aggressive pressure or intimidation.


Am I intimidating Hiling Care in any sense? Just tell me so I know what to avoid in future, otherwise please relook into this infraction

 

[Intrinion]

By all accounts then such posts and remarks should warrant warnings or post removals too.

Some losers just have no jobs nor are they gainfully employed.

Sole reason of existence is just to be professional shiet stirrers and feel powerful behind a keyboard.

Pity these lowly beings sometimes.

 

[noobmaster89]

By all accounts then such posts and remarks should warrant warnings or post removals too.

and these are not directed to any user in particular, isnt it? didn't we have a precedent for this?

anyway, on my second issue (if you missed my previous edited post):

Why is tagging another user is being deemed as a "harassment" offence worthy of 3 points? It is not as if I am threatening the user, I still don't understand the rationale and logic behind this

harassment
/ˈharəsm(ə)nt,həˈrasm(ə)nt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
aggressive pressure or intimidation.


Am I intimidating Hiling Care in any sense? Just tell me so I know what to avoid in future, otherwise please relook into this infraction

 

[Intrinion]

And why is tagging another user is being deemed as a "harassment" offence worthy of 3 points? It is not as if I am threatening the user, I still don't understand the rationale and logic behind this

You know what you have been doing and it was evident in your incessant tagging of the user and making fun of him / her. This has been reported to us by multiple users over a multi month period. Just because @Hiling care did not report to us about it, doesn’t mean that 1. The remarks are acceptable and 2. It doesn’t count as harassment

 

[Intrinion]

Your consistently demeaning remarks towards the user was noted and taken into consideration before points were issued.

 

[noobmaster89]

You know what you have been doing and it was evident in your incessant tagging of the user and making fun of him / her. This has been reported to us by multiple users over a multi month period. Just because @Hiling care did not report to us about it, doesn’t mean that 1. The remarks are acceptable and 2. It doesn’t count as harassmen

Why don't we see what the user has to say about this? If he thinks he is being harassed and made fun of then I will accept my points and you can close thread

So I can't tag anyone going forward? Because I don't want to risk another infraction for tagging

@Hiling care is a user that I have been interacting with very frequently and other members are also aware of that

 

[noobmaster89]

Your consistently demeaning remarks towards the user was noted and placed into consideration before points were issued.

It was a case of classic friendly trolling and I was playing along with him, and it was a to and fro affair (like a running gag between us)

There was nothing demeaning

What is demeaning is you implying that people who report are snowflakes

 

[Orionz]

Just use the ignore function lah.

 

[noobmaster89]

And @Intrinion , in the context of that infraction, I was not "demeaning" hiling care, contrary to what you claimed

We were tagging each other to make fun of WP.

If you want to know the context of that comment

So why is it harassment?

 

[Intrinion]

It was a case of classic friendly trolling and I was playing along with him, and it was a to and fro affair (like a running gag between us)

There was nothing demeaning

What is demeaning is you implying that people who report are snowflakes

Making a joke about people’s job isn’t demeaning?

Are you the snowflake then? My remarks made wasn’t directed at you but you seemed to be overly affected by it.

 

[noobmaster89]

Making a joke about people’s job isn’t demeaning?

Are you the snowflake then? My remarks made wasn’t directed at you but you seemed to be overly affected by it.

for context, in my infracted comment we were both trying to poke fun at WP which we have always done so together

as to his "job", it was a private joke and running gag between us

i know clearly well what his real "job" is - we are both in the same industry and it is clear we are just fooling around with each other

i have other members that can attest to this

@mrclubbie @sexeyXR

 

[Intrinion]

We will wait for @Hiling care to respond. I will reverse the warning if the user feels that it is not.

I have addressed above on my views on those posts. The remarks made by the user were mild and warrants at most, a post removal. If it’s a post which are simply insult filled then I agree that calls for removals or warnings should be issued.

I have my reservations for doing in this case as the content is ok with 1-2 mild remarks. To me I felt that removal infringes upon freedom of expression and amounts to post censorship due to differences in opinion.

 

[ClassyNFabulous]

for context, in my infracted comment we were both trying to poke fun at WP which we have always done so together

as to his "job", it was a private joke and running gag between us

i know clearly well what his real "job" is - we are both in the same industry and it is clear we are just fooling around with each other

i have other members that can attest to this

@mrclubbie @sexeyXR

haha yup we are all in the same industry

 

[Hiling care]

for context, in my infracted comment we were both trying to poke fun at WP which we have always done so together

as to his "job", it was a private joke and running gag between us

i know clearly well what his real "job" is - we are both in the same industry and it is clear we are just fooling around with each other

i have other members that can attest to this

@mrclubbie @sexeyXR

haha yup we are all in the same industry

You all also in food delivery?

We will wait for @Hiling care to respond. I will reverse the warning if the user feels that it is not.

I have addressed above on my views on those posts. The remarks made by the user were mild and warrants at most, a post removal. If it’s a post which are simply insult filled then I agree that calls for removals or warnings should be issued.

I have my reservations for doing in this case as the content is ok with 1-2 mild remarks. To me I felt that removal infringes upon freedom of expression and amounts to post censorship due to differences in opinion.

I didn't report noobmaster89 as I'm not offended. Not sure who reported on my behalf so its quite strange.

but ya feel free to reverse the warning.

thanks mod.

 

[noobmaster89]

You all also in food delivery?


I didn't report noobmaster89 as I'm not offended. Not sure who reported on my behalf so its quite strange.

but ya feel free to reverse the warning.

thanks mod.

@Intrinion if you are still having reservations

To add context to my infracted comment when I tagged him regarding what the WP MP said, we both tag each other frequently whenever it comes to WP matters (among other things). Examples:

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...understand-wp-strategy.6830095/post-144576792
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...lly-debate-bto-pricing.6850948/post-145391893
So my comment in question is in line with our post history with each other

I hope this clarifies

As for my other issue (my report against another user), since you deem it as a minor name calling, you may feel free to do whatever you want to do with the reported posts. Either remove or keep