Risk in unit trust

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Hi.
Can anyone share with me what the risk in unit trust?
What term we must look into before buying the unit trust?
Thanks.
 

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Hi.
Can anyone share with me what the risk in unit trust?
What term we must look into before buying the unit trust?
Thanks.
Ur question super super general. Unit trust is investment. U need to be able to take the up and down. Risk of losing money. What term do u mean?
 

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First you need to look into what the unit trust is invested in before you can even assess the risk.
 

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Hi.
Can anyone share with me what the risk in unit trust?
What term we must look into before buying the unit trust?
Thanks.
I'm making a guess is ur qn why ppl buy unit trust than to maybe say, versus buy stocks or ETFs instead? Not sure if this is your qn. And is it that you're asking whether the fund manager/house will collapse or run away with your money? Is that the risk u were referring to?
 

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Hi.
Can anyone share with me what the risk in unit trust?
What term we must look into before buying the unit trust?
Thanks.

What is the name of the unit trust you are considering?

Why are you considering it?

Generally speaking, unit trusts sold here are expensive in terms of sales charges, platform fees and annual management fees. Although there are worse things to buy (investment linked insurance products). Exchange Traded Funds are typically far more efficient. Local ETFs are limited so most on this forum buy on the London exchange where annual expenses are around 0.2% for the best ones. Even the absolute lowest fee unit trust here is at least 3x that cost!

What are your investment objectives?
What is your risk tolerance?
What is your time horizon?
 

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I'm making a guess is ur qn why ppl buy unit trust than to maybe say, versus buy stocks or ETFs instead? Not sure if this is your qn. And is it that you're asking whether the fund manager/house will collapse or run away with your money? Is that the risk u were referring to?

I mean will the fund manager/house will collapse ?

Any fund manager/house collapse before?

If we buy different Allianz funds , and Allianz collapse , is it mean that all our Allianz unit trust will gone?
(Ex: Allianz Europe Equity Growth , Allianz China A-Shares , ALLIANZ THEMATICA AMG H2-SGD DIS .... )

Why people buying unit trust vs ETFS?

Will unit trust like bonds that had different term like Callable date, reset the coupon rate..?
Will unit trust like stock that will issue right, Stock split , stock privatize or delisted?

Thank you all senior here for the help.
 

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I mean will the fund manager/house will collapse ?

Any fund manager/house collapse before?

If we buy different Allianz funds , and Allianz collapse , is it mean that all our Allianz unit trust will gone?
(Ex: Allianz Europe Equity Growth , Allianz China A-Shares , ALLIANZ THEMATICA AMG H2-SGD DIS .... )

Why people buying unit trust vs ETFS?

Will unit trust like bonds that had different term like Callable date, reset the coupon rate..?
Will unit trust like stock that will issue right, Stock split , stock privatize or delisted?

Thank you all senior here for the help.
Etf can also collapse. Anything can collapse
 

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I mean will the fund manager/house will collapse ?

Any fund manager/house collapse before?

If we buy different Allianz funds , and Allianz collapse , is it mean that all our Allianz unit trust will gone?
(Ex: Allianz Europe Equity Growth , Allianz China A-Shares , ALLIANZ THEMATICA AMG H2-SGD DIS .... )

Why people buying unit trust vs ETFS?

Will unit trust like bonds that had different term like Callable date, reset the coupon rate..?
Will unit trust like stock that will issue right, Stock split , stock privatize or delisted?

Thank you all senior here for the help.
Actually google is your best friend. Btw I also own the stock...... LOL
 

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I mean will the fund manager/house will collapse ?

Any fund manager/house collapse before?

If we buy different Allianz funds , and Allianz collapse , is it mean that all our Allianz unit trust will gone?
(Ex: Allianz Europe Equity Growth , Allianz China A-Shares , ALLIANZ THEMATICA AMG H2-SGD DIS .... )

Why people buying unit trust vs ETFS?

Will unit trust like bonds that had different term like Callable date, reset the coupon rate..?
Will unit trust like stock that will issue right, Stock split , stock privatize or delisted?

Thank you all senior here for the help.
I not guru, just try to give sone inputs based on my own logical thinking... No read books, no teacher.

I do buy UTs as you and have same questions like you. But everything has risk. Fund house can collapse, bonds can default... Same for ETFs. All that u mentioned can happen, since UTs hold a basket of stocks, bonds, etc. But I assume (this is not right) the fund house will take the necessary action to replace them or whatever, since this is what they are paid for.

There are some UTs with same components like ETF, eg. Nikko ARK (SGD) vs ARKK (USD). Just need to see the pros and cons and decide what suits you for this type. Eg, UTs have higher expense ratio over ETFs.

For Bonds UT or income funds, u need to note the underlying funds. Those with higher returns hold quite a bit of junk bonds. But it is also these junk bonds that can give u higher returns.

In general, i read the fact sheet and see the underlying funds, the region, dividend yield, growth, top holdings, risk ratings of the broker and check morning star rating. I do see the AUM but I dunno what is considered as big. 😅 Just spread out the risk level and region will do. This is my take.

Being kiasi and mentally thinking I spread the risk, sometimes I'll buy similar funds with different fund house. I'll keep track and do comparison of the yields. Being kiasu, I also buy same funds with monthly div vs quarterly div to compare. 😅

It is time consuming to track if you buy too many funds. But in a way, it force me to be alert if anything goes red. What is my next step etc. I love UTs cos it's easier to compute the monthly income if I buy income funds. But of course, past performance does not guarantee future performance.

Just start small, since some brokers offering 0% sales charge. Do dca in small amount. Have a feel first, don't rush. Hear different views and assess. I feel investments dun have right or wrong answer, as long as u are happy with the returns.
 
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unit trust , etf are all diversified either by sector or by companies.
Mainly created by fund houses to pay salaries of fund managers.

You're better off cutting away the middleman and learn how to invest in stocks.
 

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unit trust , etf are all diversified either by sector or by companies.
Mainly created by fund houses to pay salaries of fund managers.

You're better off cutting away the middleman and learn how to invest in stocks.
Does it matter if your make money off it?
 

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UT similar to ETF but not the same.
UT risk depend on which type of UT you choose.
Example Bond UT lower risk, Income UT lower risk
Example sectors or countries UT range from med risk to high risk.
Tech UT is high risk or narrowly high risk, all depend on your risk appetite.

For UT, low risk low return, high risk high return.
You can use FSM1 or Poems PC app to screen, then read those information there.
Can screen e.g. high risk, then check which UT has the best performance, then study it.
 

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UT similar to ETF but not the same.
UT risk depend on which type of UT you choose.
Example Bond UT lower risk, Income UT lower risk
Example sectors or countries UT range from med risk to high risk.
Tech UT is high risk or narrowly high risk, all depend on your risk appetite.

For UT, low risk low return, high risk high return.
You can use FSM1 or Poems PC app to screen, then read those information there.
Can screen e.g. high risk, then check which UT has the best performance, then study it.
Not really a direct comparison like that.
If both the ut etf hold exactly the same underlying, their risk is the same. If you ignore how it is structured etc
 

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Not really a direct comparison like that.
If both the ut etf hold exactly the same underlying, their risk is the same. If you ignore how it is structured etc
But i think u maybe missing out a point... Same underlying funds also dun mean same % for each component. 🤔

👇 Info for TS...
I didn't study ETF well enough, but I realise that UT normally will have a small % of cash component. Also, under one UT, they can have hedged and unhedged version. Acc and Dis performance also slightly different too at different timing.
 

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But i think u maybe missing out a point... Same underlying funds also dun mean same % for each component. 🤔

👇 Info for TS...
I didn't study ETF well enough, but I realise that UT normally will have a small % of cash component. Also, under one UT, they can have hedged and unhedged version. Acc and Dis performance also slightly different too at different timing.
If your want to be more precise. A UT and ETF with the same underlying and % should have the same market risk.

without commenting about structure of how they are set up or other types of risk
 

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What is the name of the unit trust you are considering?

Why are you considering it?

Generally speaking, unit trusts sold here are expensive in terms of sales charges, platform fees and annual management fees. Although there are worse things to buy (investment linked insurance products). Exchange Traded Funds are typically far more efficient. Local ETFs are limited so most on this forum buy on the London exchange where annual expenses are around 0.2% for the best ones. Even the absolute lowest fee unit trust here is at least 3x that cost!

What are your investment objectives?
What is your risk tolerance?
What is your time horizon?
Can you explain more why investment linked insurance product are worse?
 
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