RTX 3000 AIB Cards

[zephxion]

Sad for those early adopters.

Hilarious for those scalpers.

 

[hg2]

Those who cut corners without using even one MLCC are definitely at fault, since the reference design did specify one MLCC.

with all the cost-down practise across the industry, it's a grey area... b'cos they are still functionally within the clockspeed stipulated, only Nvidia can come out to make them correct it.

Consumers just have to boycott those who build underspec, and force them to sell it cheaper than those better engineered cards...

 

[Rashkae]

Wonder how many of the cheaper aib cards are using at least 1 or none of the “expensive” components and if the more expensive brands like Asus are using more of them.

Just look at the Techpowerup board pictures and you'll be able to stop wondering and start learning

 

[m0n0n0ke]

I am surprise gigabyte use 0 mlccs too

 

[hg2]

I am surprise gigabyte use 0 mlccs too

It's common practise not to "over-engineer" the solution, and "cost-down" to beat your competitors... like army saying, do anything u wanted and don't ever get caught....

Another reason, could be this...
http://www.semimedia.cc/?p=6710&
MLCC price has surge 70-80% since feb2020.

 

[Nitrile]

I am surprise gigabyte use 0 mlccs too

The Gigabyte 3090 has 0 MLCCs. In a top tier card. That’s bad.

 

[m0n0n0ke]

The Gigabyte 3090 has 0 MLCCs. In a top tier card. That’s bad.

Ya lor. At lease msi give 1

 

[Koenig168]

It's common practise not to "over-engineer" the solution, and "cost-down" to beat your competitors... like army saying, do anything u wanted and don't ever get caught....

Another reason, could be this...
http://www.semimedia.cc/?p=6710&
MLCC price has surge 70-80% since feb2020.

If Asus can use 6 MLCCs for the TUF card, which is their budget card, I don't see why other manufacturers can't use one or two.

 

[Hailgod]

they are all built to nvidia's provided specs. it should work. the boosting behaviour is abnormal if it can load and cause crashes, im expecting a driver fix.
then again, if this is actually as widespread as the posts show, compilations of tens of 3080 crashing in games would have been made. there is none i can find.
aibs literally cant sell a gpu that nvidia doesnt approve.

 

[Lil_d3viLz]

MLCC vs POSCAPS is what?
Never heard of these 2 in comparison in previous gpu or Motherboard before.

Higher quality capacitors like Asus means longer warranty/less issues/or faster?

I don't see this as a huge issue, to be honest. I am more concerned with the following.

1. Price, definitely this is most impt.
2. Speed
3. Warranty duration
4. Issues e.g. Crashes.
5. RMA location

 

[VoodooKing]

Peeps like to jump to conclusions even without them knowing what the real issue is.
It is still not concrete if using all postcap or 2 mlcc + 4 postcap or going all mlcc is the
cure or even an issue. If all postcap was an issue gamer nexus would'nt be able to o.c. his prepoduction unit
of the evga ftw3 which is using all postcap to 2.3ghz, although that is with a bios mod with
power uncapped and with ln2.

There are also reports of the asus and fe cards with crashes( don't quote me on this though)

Another point is mlcc and postcap have their pros and cons depending on what class or type is used.
Let it get sorted out frist and wait, let the dust settle I would say.

P.S. the evga ftw3 production units is with a 2 mlcc + 4 postcap config

From EVGA themselves.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-nvidia-rtx-3080-capacitor-caused-crashes

 

[andylee1986]

something to share since i am in the component business.. those are not poscap
those are sp caps definitely not tantalum.. mlcc was in a shortage for the longest time
and people are saying if it is not mlcc, it is no good.

it will have to depend on the spec of the caps too. if they are using lower spec caps 330 maybe instead of the 470 550 there might be an issue. i saw some boards teardown that are showing the mlcc yet 5 other sp caps are 200+ which overall lowers the cap total range.

i have a 3080 custom coming so i looked at all the teardown so far and this is my 2cents

have mlcc not = good
all sp caps not = no good

 

[andylee1986]

From EVGA themselves.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-nvidia-rtx-3080-capacitor-caused-crashes

seems like they like to lump everything together and call them POSCAP

 

[hg2]

MLCC vs POSCAPS is what?
Never heard of these 2 in comparison in previous gpu or Motherboard before.

Higher quality capacitors like Asus means longer warranty/less issues/or faster?

I don't see this as a huge issue, to be honest. I am more concerned with the following.

1. Price, definitely this is most impt.
2. Speed
3. Warranty duration
4. Issues e.g. Crashes.
5. RMA location

 

[ondooy]

 

[hg2]

UH OH

Someone already posted the video in this thread last week two page back... i think

Subsequently there are more videos to debunk "UH OH" and igors's claims....

 

[m0n0n0ke]

Someone already posted the video in this thread last week two page back... i think



Subsequently there are more videos to debunk "UH OH" and igors's claims....

Damage control by nvidia?

 

[hg2]

very small difference according to his tests

 

[Richliao]

Why none of the youtube reviewers reported crashes when they tested the card?

 

[hg2]

Damage control by nvidia?

Just buy TUF lah!...the final message in this video...