Generally, separating insurance and savings/investments is a good tip to follow. Another good rule of thumb is to stay away from tied agents (agents representing single companies), non-independent financial advisers who sometimes misrepresent that they are Independent, and banks.
Tied agents can only provide products and solutions their company offers, which either means a portfolio with missing essential coverage and/or overpriced policies. Non-independent financial advisers and banks have special arrangements with insurance companies to sell certain products over others.
Independent Financial Advisers (IFA) minimise the clash of interests the most. Of course, due diligence and prudence still have to be taken in choosing an IFA for your own benefit.
I dont believe in "independent" FA. Do you get paid commission? If yes, does the different products have varying commission? The question is how "independent" it is when there are still different remunueration?
I dont believe in "independent" FA. Do you get paid commission? If yes, does the different products have varying commission? The question is how "independent" it is when there are still different remunueration?
Hi guys,
I've recently stepped into the working world, and thinking of getting either one of the above-mentioned. Which one do you guys think is the one that a mid-20s guy should get first? Insurance for its lower premium, or savings plan?
With regards to savings plan, anyone here has any? Which company's savings plans are considered the best in your opinion? I've talked to Prudential and HSBC advisers; and the difference that I garner from that is that HSBC offers the full guaranteed amount of your amount saved (100%) but with a lower projected yield at maturity. Prudential, on the other hand, only offers 60% guaranteed returns on your savings, but has a higher 'projected' maturity yield, but subject to economy performance etc...
Any opinions or differences that any of you bros know of?
Cheers!
A guy trying to plan for his financial future
That's an excellent question. In fact, many FA firms are actually not truly independent and do not adhere to MAS guideline for Independence. According to this guideline, an IFA can only be called Independent if the difference in remuneration within product classes within similar levels, i.e. there can be different remuneration but the difference cannot be significant.
Thus, you can have non-independent FA firms who cut deals with product providers to sell a particular product for extra commission. Independent Financial Advisers have decidedly followed a stricter set of regulation by its own choice to provide better advice for clients.
In the end, it boils down to a person's ethics and competency. Someone who is ethical and competent will be able to benefit his clients with true independent advice. So, I fully agree with what Rommie said in his newbie guide - "All good advisers are IFAs, but not all IFAs are good advisers."
There exist two major clashes of interests between a commission-based relationship between adviser and clients. One is the range of products the adviser can transact to earn a commission, and the other is the commissions he receive. An IFA reduces the first clash of interests greatly.
Of course, commissions remain a clash of interest between an adviser and his clients even with IFAs. One must also remember that "clash of interest" can work both ways. I am earning a low remuneration because I decide to sell good products to my clients. A client who wants to reduce this clash of interest can pay fees for advice instead of commissions. I have very decidedly and purposefully joined the team of my mentor who is a fee-based planner to reduce the clash of interests with regards to commissions.
To me, providend is the best cos they don't take commission. All the so-called IFA is bullsh*t as most of the time, they don't show clients 10 or more plans for comparisons. Who knows, maybe the plan they sell you is the one with the highest commission.
Then, they see ghost say ghost word, see human say human words. For eg, if they see client got company P plan, they will badmouth company P plan and say another plan from company G is good. Then for another client with company G plan, they will badmouth it and say company P plan is good. A lot of hypocrites one, maybe only 1 good in 1000 IFA.
I don't understand why you mentioned that some FA are "non-independent" and yours is "independent". You tends to put down others to make yourself superior.
How much fee based advisory service have you provided... So after the fee based advice, you earn another revenue through the product commission?
There isn't any FA firms that cut deals with firms to purposely promote their products. It is offer to all FA firms with the same remuneration.
Clearly you indeed do not understand at all. There are Independent Financial Adviser (IFA) firms and there are non-independent Financial Adviser firms. These are matter of facts and not matter of opinion. Whether a firm is Independent or not is defined by MAS. I do not define it.
There are different fee-based models. I do not currently charge fees.
I think you need to do research about this industry.
If you are so good, please give me a example of a "independent FA" and a "non-independent FA".
I am sure many will like to see the list.
Only 100% fee based advisor are consider as INDEPENDANT. The other FA firms are all the same, most thinks they are IFA just because they have a whole range of products to distribute isn't it.
It is up to the advisor whether to recommend the right/wrong product which is morally grey. No right or wrong, cause the products have too many features.
Some ifa says Tm legacy plus is good, some says Ntuc income vivolife is good, some says manulife star protector is good.... Some only sells term and invest the rest and says that all whole life and endowment are bad... All is their own opinion isn't it.
Great Eastern financial advisor pte Ltd is non-independent as it is a subsidiary of great eastern.
Why do you say that finexis and IPP are non-independent. From what I know, they carry the same products provider just like your company.
Anyway it really depends on the advisors, a so called independent financial advisor will also not recommend his client to buy a product which he do not offers, eg. ETF. But focus only selling the lousy unit trusts products with high annual management fees thinking that it is better off selling ILP to clients.
Yet a tied agent will actually get the clients to buy ETF as they focus on their traditional life insurance products.
Anyway, for consumers, do your own homework. Don't believe in the so called independent financial advisor just because they comes from a independent advisory firms.
Great Eastern financial advisor pte Ltd is non-independent as it is a subsidiary of great eastern.
Why do you say that finexis and IPP are non-independent. From what I know, they carry the same products provider just like your company.
Anyway it really depends on the advisors, a so called independent financial advisor will also not recommend his client to buy a product which he do not offers, eg. ETF. But focus only selling the lousy unit trusts products with high annual management fees thinking that it is better off selling ILP to clients.
Yet a tied agent will actually get the clients to buy ETF as they focus on their traditional life insurance products.
Anyway, for consumers, do your own homework. Don't believe in the so called independent financial advisor just because they comes from a independent advisory firms.
I would suggest that you invest in an ILP (investment linked insurance policy), which is both an Investment and an Insurance plan. Refer to this for more info on the policy: An ILP Big On Investment – SharesInv.com
Hi guys,
I've recently stepped into the working world, and thinking of getting either one of the above-mentioned. Which one do you guys think is the one that a mid-20s guy should get first? Insurance for its lower premium, or savings plan?
With regards to savings plan, anyone here has any? Which company's savings plans are considered the best in your opinion? I've talked to Prudential and HSBC advisers; and the difference that I garner from that is that HSBC offers the full guaranteed amount of your amount saved (100%) but with a lower projected yield at maturity. Prudential, on the other hand, only offers 60% guaranteed returns on your savings, but has a higher 'projected' maturity yield, but subject to economy performance etc...
Any opinions or differences that any of you bros know of?
Cheers!
A guy trying to plan for his financial future
