[Seeking Advice] ASUS ROG Strix GA15 G15DK Pre-built Gaming Desktop (Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 3070 | 32 GB RAM) and Gamepro Store.

[Kennylyk]

Hi,

https://shopee.sg/(Ready-Stocks)NEW...-3070-W10-3Y)-i.10402.10845585309?position=10
I came across a desktop and find it a good combination of Ryzen 7 5800X and RTX 3070. It is ASUS ROG Strix GA15 G15DK-R5800X255T Gaming Desktop. Any advice / experience for this desktop?

As I posted previously in my thread in Sep (I think it was archived), I wanted to buy a pre-built desktop which is optimized to handle 3D modelling, animation and rendering which utilize software such as : Cinema4D, Blender, Zbrush, Photoshop, Illustrator and AfterEffect for work purposes. I will also use it for occasional gaming.

I understand that it is better to get a Desktop GPU as it performs much better than a Laptop GPU. You can read more on my reasons on getting a pre-built gaming desktop via this link [https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...3d-modelling-rendering-and-animation.6593693/]

However, I can't find this desktop in local big distributor stores (E.g Courts, HN, Best Denki, Gain City, Challenger|Hachi.Tech); all stated sold out.

I managed to find a store in Shopee (Gamepro Store) which is selling this desktop (5 in stock). Did anyone have experience buying from Gamepro? Just want to know more about them; whether they are reliable & etc. Thanks.

 

[86technie]

Get Lenovo Legion, Asus prebuild desktop don't have good review.

Example this model and etc.

https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/deskto...-towers/Lenovo-Legion-T5-26AMR5/p/99LE9500368

 

[aurvandil]

I recently got a refurbished ROG Strix 10 DH. The specs were:

RX7- 2700
Nividia GTX 1660 TI 6GB
16 GB Ram [32 GB after upgrade]
512 NvME SSD

When I got it, I found that it came with a single stick 16 GB 2666 Mhz DDR4. I managed to find a compatible stick of 16 GB Ram and upgraded the memory to 32 GB dual channel. Since I am not running anything that will fully utilise 32 GB of Ram, I configured a 4 GB Ramdisk to substantially improve performance.

The total price I paid after upgrade was $1500.

So far, the system is stable. The case has decent natural airflow. There are no fan mounts as far as I can tell so you cannot mount any extra fans. Without overclocking, the CPU and GPU thermals are fairly decent. In general, the system has very few options for upgrades. The system is not designed for the power gamer or hardware enthisiast who wants to squeeze maximum performance from the system. It is more for an average user who wants a good enough system that will last a few years.

Given the choice, I would probably not have bought the system brand new. I got this system because after upgrading, it far outperformed anything I could build brand new.

 

[Kennylyk]

I recently got a refurbished ROG Strix 10 DH. The specs were:

RX7- 2700
Nividia GTX 1660 TI 6GB
16 GB Ram [32 GB after upgrade]
512 NvME SSD

When I got it, I found that it came with a single stick 16 GB 2666 Mhz DDR4. I managed to find a compatible stick of 16 GB Ram and upgraded the memory to 32 GB dual channel. Since I am not running anything that will fully utilise 32 GB of Ram, I configured a 4 GB Ramdisk to substantially improve performance.

The total price I paid after upgrade was $1500.

So far, the system is stable. The case has decent natural airflow. There are no fan mounts as far as I can tell so you cannot mount any extra fans. Without overclocking, the CPU and GPU thermals are fairly decent. In general, the system has very few options for upgrades. The system is not designed for the power gamer or hardware enthisiast who wants to squeeze maximum performance from the system. It is more for an average user who wants a good enough system that will last a few years.

Given the choice, I would probably not have bought the system brand new. I got this system because after upgrading, it far outperformed anything I could build brand new.

Noted. But the specs for the GA15 G15DK is quite tempting and worth for its selling price (further discount with shopee vouchers can bring it down to the cheapest $2950 (estimated); it has the combination of 8-core Ryzen 7 5800X and RTX 3070 GPU which is quite substantial for multi-threaded rendering work and gaming leisure.

What is the highest temperature when in full load? Is it quite loud when at full load?

 

[Kennylyk]

Get Lenovo Legion, Asus prebuild desktop don't have good review.

Example this model and etc.

https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/deskto...-towers/Lenovo-Legion-T5-26AMR5/p/99LE9500368

Haha, I remember you introduce Lenovo Legion in the previous thread I created. Ambassador for Lenovo? haha.

Anyways, the Lenovo Legion from their shopee and lazada stores only offer desktop with Intel processor (i7-11700KF and i7-10700). Intel cpu is quite unsuited for multi-threaded rendering as compared to AMD (Unless you get the i9 series and xeon which are expensive) Furthermore, it seemed that it offer only RTX 3060 in the customize section.

What are the bad reviews focusing on for the ASUS prebuilt desktop? Because I read some reviews, so far I know that fans are loud when in full load and limited areas for upgrades. I am pretty ok for such flaws.

 

[86technie]

Haha, I remember you introduce Lenovo Legion in the previous thread I created. Ambassador for Lenovo? haha.

Anyways, the Lenovo Legion from their shopee and lazada stores only offer desktop with Intel processor (i7-11700KF and i7-10700). Intel cpu is quite unsuited for multi-threaded rendering as compared to AMD (Unless you get the i9 series and xeon which are expensive) Furthermore, it seemed that it offer only RTX 3060 in the customize section.

What are the bad reviews focusing on for the ASUS prebuilt desktop? Because I read some reviews, so far I know that fans are loud when in full load and limited areas for upgrades.

Intel will do fine for prebuild as the Asus desktop is bad, I am not a Lenovo sales person, you
can search on Youtube for reviews.








So for the Lenovo one at most you can get is i7 1770KF is more than enough, the i9 avoid
as it is waste of money.
Other than processor, do get two sticks of RAM as usually branded prebuild comes with just 1 stick of RAM.

The configuration online varies probably out of stock so hard to recommend a proper one.
Suggest you head down to Harvey norman or best denki take a look as I know there are
better Intel configurations.

AMD wise may have you can either check with shop or call Lenovo sales.

 

[aurvandil]

What is the highest temperature when in full load? Is it quite loud when at full load?

I ran Furmark on it and got a high of 78 deg on the GPU while the CPU was around 52. The fan is fairly noisy as i am using the performance side panel with the air vents. My refurb set didn't come with the transparent panel. My understanding is that is a lot quieter but the thermals are a lot worse.

 

[aurvandil]

What are the bad reviews focusing on for the ASUS prebuilt desktop? Because I read some reviews, so far I know that fans are loud when in full load and limited areas for upgrades. I am pretty ok for such flaws.

If you watch Dawid's videos, his main gripe with RoG prebuilts is that they use a single stick of DDR4. His feedback is accurate and I found it really hampers performance for the system. if you upgrade to dual channel by adding a stick of RAM, you resolve most of the performance issues. The rest of his gripes don't really have much impact on day to day use of the system.

 

[Yongkit]

Similar to TS budget from Hachi Tech (challenger)

 

[Phen8210]

that cooler looks dam cheap.. I'm quite sure it cant cool the 5800x properly. TS please avoid.

 

[aurvandil]

that cooler looks dam cheap.. I'm quite sure it cant cool the 5800x properly. TS please avoid.

There isn't much of a performance difference between a stock air cooler and an expensive looking RGB air cooler. You only get a subtantial increase in performance if you are upgrading to an AIO liquid cooler which will probably not fit in a pre-built.

 

[Kennylyk]

Actually, is RTX 3060 better than RTX 3070 based on my usage which will be: 70% 3D Modelling, Texturing Rendering Work while 30% Gaming?

Because I understand that the 3060 comes with 12 GB Vram as compared to 3070's 8 GB (higher Vram = faster textures upload / viewport preview?) . However, the CUDA cores for 3070 is much more than 3060 = render scene faster.

So initially was confused over whether which GPU will be better. However, I decided to get the RTX 3070 as a safe measure. Right decision?

Fyi. RTX 3080 and 3090 is too expensive for my budget. Not to mention Quadro which is expensive and not suited for gaming.

 

[86technie]

Actually, is RTX 3060 better than RTX 3070 based on my usage which will be: 70% 3D Modelling, Texturing Rendering Work while 30% Gaming?

Because I understand that the 3060 comes with 12 GB Vram as compared to 3070's 8 GB (higher Vram = faster textures upload / viewport preview?) . However, the CUDA cores for 3070 is much more than 3060 = render scene faster.

So initially was confused over whether which GPU will be better. However, I decided to get the RTX 3070 as a safe measure. Right decision?

Fyi. RTX 3080 and 3090 is too expensive for my budget. Not to mention Quadro which is expensive and not suited for gaming.

Actually for current generation of Geforce you can use Nvidia studio drivers but I am not sure
will it impact gaming performance.
Since studio drivers are meant for 3D modelling etc and game ready driver are for gaming.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4931/~/nvidia-studio-faqs
The key factor will be driver and yes Quadro is too expensive and not capable to game.
After you buy the desktop, prepare the system such as:

- Run Windows Update ensure it is up to date as prebuild the Windows is from factory image.
It may not be a latest Windows that is installed.
- Update the graphic card to studio driver.

If you are keen in RTX 3060 check if there is any configuration with RTX 3060 Ti.

 

[Kennylyk]

Actually for current generation of Geforce you can use Nvidia studio drivers but I am not sure
will it impact gaming performance.
Since studio drivers are meant for 3D modelling etc and game ready driver are for gaming.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4931/~/nvidia-studio-faqs
The key factor will be driver and yes Quadro is too expensive and not capable to game.
After you buy the desktop, prepare the system such as:

- Run Windows Update ensure it is up to date as prebuild the Windows is from factory image.
It may not be a latest Windows that is installed.
- Update the graphic card to studio driver.

If you are keen in RTX 3060 check if there is any configuration with RTX 3060 Ti.

Noted. Thanks for the info about the Nvidia studio driver. I didn't know Nvidia had a driver for the 3D modelling for the RTX series; always thought for gaming only.

Well, I have been using AMD Ryzen 7 2700 + RX Vega 56 combination (my only workstation which is a Acer Predator Helios 500 laptop AMD version) and using it for more CPU rendering than GPU. Hence having little knowledge about Nvidia side previously.

It only recently that I decided to get a Nvidia GPU because most of the rendering engines are using CUDA cores and is generally faster in helping to render scene. Also just in time to get a better workstation.

As for RTX 3060, after much reading online. Think it is still best to go with RTX 3070 rather than 3060.

 

[Phen8210]

There isn't much of a performance difference between a stock air cooler and an expensive looking RGB air cooler. You only get a subtantial increase in performance if you are upgrading to an AIO liquid cooler which will probably not fit in a pre-built.

As I mentioned, the concern was regarding cooling and not performance.. also why are you assuming I am comparing it to an expensive RGB air cooler? It doesn't seem like you have much knowledge in this department.

For your knowledge, the 5800X will run hot, much hotter than you think, do not take your 2700/x rig as a reference. That crappy HSF inside won't cool it properly and honestly only a few air coolers will be able to cool it well, another option is to to use AIOs. This is a known fact for a long time already.

It's either gonna run loud or hot.. which will not do any good.

If they decide to heartlessly pair the 5800x with some crappy HSF, I strongly suggest to not even consider buying the rig. Do keep in mind it's also paired with a RTX 3070.

Please don't sabo TS ah.

 

[86technie]

Inside ASUS Strix desktop

VS

If it uses AMD Wraith Cooler, is OK since this cooler can handle the CPU TDP.
But compare with the CPU cooler found inside the Asus desktop it can't cool AMD 5800X.
It's small and looks like a Intel CPU cooler, for normal use is OK but gaming is no no.

 

[localITguy]

As I mentioned, the concern was regarding cooling and not performance.. also why are you assuming I am comparing it to an expensive RGB air cooler? It doesn't seem like you have much knowledge in this department.

For your knowledge, the 5800X will run hot, much hotter than you think, do not take your 2700/x rig as a reference. That crappy HSF inside won't cool it properly and honestly only a few air coolers will be able to cool it well, another option is to to use AIOs. This is a known fact for a long time already.

It's either gonna run loud or hot.. which will not do any good.

If they decide to heartlessly pair the 5800x with some crappy HSF, I strongly suggest to not even consider buying the rig. Do keep in mind it's also paired with a RTX 3070.

Please don't sabo TS ah.

yes, the cooler looks like its from aliexpress. and i doubt it will cool the cpu well even on idle..

i am running a Ryzen 5 3600 with an ID-cooling (air-cooler) and on idle it stays in the 50s-60S .

let alone a 5800X lah..

 

[Yongkit]

I think there could be some confusion for the CPU cooler, what I see for the TS requested unit is a tower cooler not the usual top down cooler?

I am thinking normally for oem motherboard there will limit oc potential due to vrm and power limit of the motherboard.

If the cpu will be running at stock frequency with lock voltage, this unit is using tower cooler style the thermal throttle issue will be less prominent compare to top down cpu cooler.

Best for TS to double check with the reseller if he is concern on the CPU cooler style.

 

[ragnarok95]

if you are getting from shopee, why don't you message the seller and ask what air cooling is use in that system?

 

[Yongkit]

This is the model I see same as TS model